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Man turns Plastic into Oil and Gas

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posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 09:44 AM
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I can't help but think this is a most wonderful invention that will be swept away by big business. Why if there is such a simple thing as this to help our world, not functioning in ever country, every state, in the world?

We know plastic is a huge problem and Americans are awful with just tossing it wherever. Just plastic water bottles by themselves can be found littered everywhere. I bet even if there was a penny weight for recycling like there is with aluminum a lot could be cleaned up pretty quickly.

Makes me kind of mad to know something like this is out there and not being used on a full scale.

What do you think? I don't want to be accused of trying to hoax the forum. Is this feasible? It appears to be to me.




posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 09:51 AM
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Since it comes from oil, they should be able to reverse it. However, biofuels and solar/wind/geothermal/wave/tide generators, oh and of course zero point energy is a better deal.

Plastics can be made from vegetation, all the goods in computers, dvds, film, harddrives, cameras, that are currently oil industry could be made easily from plants. And quartz is its own harddrive, and storage medium and can be man made as well. We can grow crystals. We don't need to abuse earth non-stop.


The most important part of using vegetation, is to ensure you don't abuse the eco structure or leave people and nature hungry. The best way is to use alternative energies to bring back deserts and create, multi teired growing of crops. Cheap, clean abundant energy can cause us to utilize desalination and purify ocean water, we have plenty of ocean on this planet, and enough tides and wave power to generate power for the world. We should have floating plants that utilize this and desalinate water all in one go. I'm not even sure you need to grow the entire plant. I even envision a factory, where plant like substances begin growing quickly in a slurry and are turned into fuel, or plastic or useful things right there in the factory, eliminating the need for agricultural land, it could be on a different grade of soil.


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posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 10:09 AM
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You make it sound like it's not amazing.. what about the islands of plastic we have floating around the ocean?.. that will never disintegrate? Change all of the trash back to oil, find a green use for it.. and THEN use all of the other methods you mentioned. It could be a great 1st step.
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posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 10:15 AM
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To dispose of it, perhaps turning it back to its original chemicals might be a good idea. But we need to run this world on the alternative energies and zero point. That fork in the road that happened with Tesla, or even prior to him, where we got stuck with the pracitcal slave science, electrical/engineering and corporate slavery of the oil industry, and the elites went underground to utilize the real breakthroughs and hence are thousands of years ahead of our science, is a fork planet earth needs to take.

But even without the more exotic energies, wind, tide, wave, geothermal, and solar can go a very long way. Plastic from plants, quartz and crystals grown.

I don't believe this is new, I think its something they've known how to do for some time.

Not only this, but now that group that has profited by going black with the real sciences, wants to procure the resources of this planet for themselves alone, and after force feeding us the corporate energy/science root and creating streams of defective products that we are forced to buy repeatedly, like 3 coffee pots a year, without any government regulating this, when all these things were built not only to last but to pass on in the past, they are planning mass murder, genocide to get rid of the useless eaters consumers, that they forced into this paradigm, so they can inherit a new world, clean and sustainable for the few. And they have it all tied into their horse at Colorado Airport, their fake Harvest.

We have to get far beyond this kind of thing and demand disclosure of true technology, and freedom from these bloodlines.
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posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 11:21 AM
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The one problem i have with this is, when he puts the plastic in to the container to be heated. Only the gas produced gets turned back in to oil. He does'nt mention wether theres any plastic waste left over in the container.
Which there must be unless all of the plastic evapourates.

Also, he does'nt mention how much energy is actualy used while converting it. If the energy you get from the oil produced is lesser than that of the energy used to make it. Its pointless as an energy source.

With that said, i think its a good way to get rid of a lot of plastic waste. As opposed to burying it or burning it up in icineraters. At least you get something out of it.

Interesting though, but im not really surprised no western countrys have took it seriously. You can also get oil from coconuts and a lot easier, but no one is interested in that either.



posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 01:27 PM
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I had some of the same question not addressed in the video. From the article link at the video:

One kilogram of plastic produces almost one liter of oil. To convert that amount takes about 1 kilowatt of electricity, which is approximately ¥20 or 20 cents’ worth.

Plastic to oil fantastic

From the manufactures website:

From the specifications it mentions that the recycle ratio is more than 80% (3h/time)*
*It fluctuates due to the kinds of plastic.

Source

Website
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posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 03:00 PM
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I agree with you. At least we have something to get started with while we bring the other great ideas presented here online. You would think if they are recycling it and reusing it, it would still be making money for them somehow. Even if its just to remake the same products over and over.



posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 03:05 PM
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Right so,

3.5 litres per gallon (u.s)
42 Gallons per barrel (u.s)

42 mutiplyed by 3.5 = 147 litres per barrel.

147 multiplyed by 0.20 (cents) = $29.4 per barrel.

I think thats right lol.

If the current price per barrel is $73 roughly Then your producing it roughly 2.5 times cheaper which sounds excellent.

Obviously it would probably take you a long time to produce a barrel but if your getting rid of waste and getting cheap fuel then its got to be worth it right?
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posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 03:12 PM
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lol KrypticC, you know how Humans are, if its to simple it cant possibly be something useful. Make it complex and charge a ton for it



posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 03:26 PM
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Don't forget to add the cost of the machine. I believe the small model in the video was $9500.



posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 03:27 PM
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It would appear to very viable indeed as an alternative to just throwing the plastic away or burning it for energy in the coventional way. If you also get the electricity used to process the original plastic from lets say a wind farm. Then theres a chance you could produce it for free.

The time scale is probably the only downside. Your literally making fuel from rubbish which is great. Recycling at its most perfect eh!

Good stuff.



posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 03:29 PM
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lol i knew there would be overheads that i missed.

You save roughly $43 per barrel, how long would it take to pay of $9500 i wonder?

It would help if we knew how long it takes to produce a litre really.
There will also be the costs of collecting and sorting the plastics and then getting rid of the 20% waste.
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posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 03:31 PM
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I would think $9500 would be a drop in the bucket considering the billions spent in this industry. I mean really, couldn't they build this same machine on a much grander scale? Would still be peanuts once it was built and put into production, what they would get back. It would pay for itself in the first few weeks I would guess.



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 11:37 PM
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doesnt this just convert energy from one form to another?

it doesnt remove plastic from the environment, it merely changes what PART of the environment it is contaminating.



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