Human aging slowed closer to the core+Expanding Earth Theory=Longer lived Humans in the Bible

Ok, I'm not sure if I posted this in the right place. To me Science is a religion since it is wrong most of the time as well as it is correct, just like other religions. So, MOD if this is wrong please feel free to move.

I was thinking about both concepts and it hit me. If we age more slowly when we are closer to the Earth's then it adds credence to the expanding Earth theory. We could also look at the crack that is starting to form In Michigan(we will know more on this as time progresses, just using this as a possibility)

I am not saying this is truth just a possibility and interesting to say the least!

Time warping in our daily lives




Crack forming in Michigan



It could also be hypothesized that Gravity may have been weaker thus making possible for larger animals(Dinosaurs, Giants, etc.) Just an additional thought.
Let me know what you think! Thanks everyone!

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interesting,i always thought of the ages in the bible were just lies and exaggerations or them having really short years or months

like a 3 month year, haha

Expanding earth was also the first thing that came to my mind when I saw that crack in Michigan thread.

As for the premise you raisehere, however, the effect of time dialation is not quite that significant, although a smaller earth would imply perhaps a faster rotation and thus more days in a year.

Are you saying humans lived with dinosaurs?
I'm not seeing your point here. Explain more!

Or, it is all genetic.

And regarding the long lifespans in the Bible: The older, Mesopotamian texts describes the cause as being that the "gods" mated with the Earthlings, hence creating hybrids with long lifespans, although not that long as the lifespans of the "gods".

The interesting thing is, that immediately after the supposed Flood, the recorded lifespans started to decrease drastically with several decades, or even centuries, for each next generation, until they eventually stoped at the "Three scores plus ten".

Originally posted by ImAnAlienOnMyOwnPlanet
Are you saying humans lived with dinosaurs?
I'm not seeing your point here. Explain more!

Not exactly although there is proof of that very point.

My point is if you put the hypotheses together you can see that there may be proof of the Expanding Earth Theory with the Crack forming min Michigan and this could lead to a hypothesis as to why in the Bible we aged so slowly. It could also give rise as to the size of Dinosaurs and the Possibility of the Giants in the Bible.

Originally posted by Nightchild
Or, it is all genetic.

And regarding the long lifespans in the Bible: The older, Mesopotamian texts describes the cause as being that the "gods" mated with the Earthlings, hence creating hybrids with long lifespans, although not that long as the lifespans of the "gods".

The interesting thing is, that immediately after the supposed Flood, the recorded lifespans started to decrease drastically with several decades, or even centuries, for each next generation, until they eventually stoped at the "Three scores plus ten".

You are correct, however, I'm trying to bring science in to add credence to a hypothesis. Not trying to refute or prove the bible. The parts of the bible that we are refering to are only myth until proven true. Trying to come up hypotheses that make the Bible truth instead of Myth. Does that make sense?

Really?? I mean serious after putting two and two together you come up with. Expanding Earth (which is a theory) = shorter life based on a crevice forming in Michigan?

Originally posted by rogerstigers
Expanding earth was also the first thing that came to my mind when I saw that crack in Michigan thread.

As for the premise you raisehere, however, the effect of time dialation is not quite that significant, although a smaller earth would imply perhaps a faster rotation and thus more days in a year.

It's not so much the days in the year that is affected the faster an object is moving the slower it ages. The expanding Earth theory has the Earth at a 1/3 of the size that it is today. Not only that but the smaller the Earth the faster someone standing on is moving and it's an exponential factor not just a quantitative factor. So in theory it could possibly change the possibly of adding 2 years to someones life today, but then it could be much more. Say like 30 years.

If you then consider that there would also be more days in the year, that could definitely lead people to perceive a different time frame all together. Different calendar(Altered time perception) Accounting for the 900 years that Adam lived.

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Intriguing notion about faster rotational earth explaining relatively long reported ages.

I've researched into the surface of the topic a little, the topic of living to 700+ years just is crying out for attention, but you know the basics, genetics, pollution, radiation/mutations, intentional DNA altering, viruses etc. etc.

But, interesting concept to think maybe it was the number of days in average lifespan was different (i.e. faster rotation), definitely interested in the topic. Don't think it would explain 10x differential, but could be a variable.


So, I was thinking what would have been environmental effects of slower/faster rotation of the earth.
First thought was it would probably be colder, but then it seems like the overall average solar energy into the earth would be the same, as well as our internal core heat.

anyway, here is an interesting site talking about some of the effects of a slower rotational earth, if interested.

pages.prodigy.com...

Originally posted by QuestionTheGovernment
Really?? I mean serious after putting two and two together you come up with. Expanding Earth (which is a theory) = shorter life based on a crevice forming in Michigan?

Um...No...that's not what I was saying at all. Did you read the article? It would explain the life span change.

Originally posted by Shadowed

Originally posted by Nightchild
Or, it is all genetic.

And regarding the long lifespans in the Bible: The older, Mesopotamian texts describes the cause as being that the "gods" mated with the Earthlings, hence creating hybrids with long lifespans, although not that long as the lifespans of the "gods".

The interesting thing is, that immediately after the supposed Flood, the recorded lifespans started to decrease drastically with several decades, or even centuries, for each next generation, until they eventually stoped at the "Three scores plus ten".

You are correct, however, I'm trying to bring science in to add credence to a hypothesis. Not trying to refute or prove the bible. The parts of the bible that we are refering to are only myth until proven true. Trying to come up hypotheses that make the Bible truth instead of Myth. Does that make sense?

Yes, that makes sense.

None the less, it is unfortunately and probably impossible to prove it one way or another, unless remains from people of that Era is actually "officialy" dug up and have testings done on them. Personally, I am certain that such remains HAVE been found aswell as tested and that selected people is fully aware of the texts not only being accurate, but also the exact cause for their lifespans.

In my opinion, that is.


By the way, as a sidenote, it feels worth mentioning that the Tomb of Gilgamesh is believed to been found.
It was located exactly on the spot where the texts claimed it to be.
Now, the reason I find it worth to mention, is that Gilgamesh was described as being " 2/3 god", and having ruled for 126 years. Wonder if they performed tests on the remains and that is the reason the coverage ended? Who knows.

It is any way weird that this happened in 2003 already, and yet so little official coverage about it. Makes you wonder, huh?

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Hmm still a little confused about where you are leading this because it is definitely of the wall, because in the end your basing what you stated on the theory of expanding Earth. How do you know there has been a lifetime change?

Originally posted by QuestionTheGovernment
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Hmm still a little confused about where you are leading this because it is definitely of the wall, because in the end your basing what you stated on the theory of expanding Earth. How do you know there has been a lifetime change?

edit on 8-10-2010 by QuestionTheGovernment because: edit to add question.

I don't know it is a theory that I came up with and thought I'd share. I say that the topic. I'm not basing off the expanding Earth theory I am using them all as a united group of possibility. Not even refering to it as a probability.

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I like to think that the longer lifespans of those in the bible correlated to earlier tribes or civilizations that were given human names. Like this tribe founded by x flourished for x hundred years and beget this branch off tribe founded by x which flourished for x hundred years. eventually, orally or because the history of those earlier tribes didn't matter it was shortened to 'lifespans' of individual mythical characters.

Originally posted by Shadowed

Originally posted by ImAnAlienOnMyOwnPlanet
Are you saying humans lived with dinosaurs?
I'm not seeing your point here. Explain more!

Not exactly although there is proof of that very point.

My point is if you put the hypotheses together you can see that there may be proof of the Expanding Earth Theory with the Crack forming min Michigan and this could lead to a hypothesis as to why in the Bible we aged so slowly. It could also give rise as to the size of Dinosaurs and the Possibility of the Giants in the Bible.

You do realize that the life expectancy of the people living in ancient times was A LOT lower, right? We know that for a fact. They didn't "age" slower.

As for dinosaurs roaming the earth with humans, that's total hogwash. Prove me wrong!!!

The whole "expanding earth" theory is based on a total lack of scientific knowledge. Not that it matters, you clearly stated you mistrust science (and therefore facts) as well as other religions than your own.

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I believe he is referring to the teachings from "The Bible", regarding Noah and Methusela.

www.biblequestions.org...

If the years never lasted 365 days or actually, if we never had numbers to represent "age", we would live forever...

It goes back to those who decided to make up our calendar.

Originally posted by MrXYZ


You do realize that the life expectancy of the people living in ancient times was A LOT lower, right? We know that for a fact. They didn't "age" slower.

As for dinosaurs roaming the earth with humans, that's total hogwash. Prove me wrong!!!

The whole "expanding earth" theory is based on a total lack of scientific knowledge. Not that it matters, you clearly stated you mistrust science (and therefore facts) as well as other religions than your own.

edit on 8-10-2010 by MrXYZ because: (no reason given)

Actually, If you do look at the More than Ancient Cultures, i.e. what is considered by most as "Primitive" you will find that they lived longer on average than we did. Even looking at the modern traditionalist nations of Natives, People like Dan Evehema who died in 1999 at the age of 108 I believe, and was still working his land at least until 1995 when books were written about him. I think you may change your mind. Except for the possibility of higher infant mortality(this is speculation on my part I don't know. I do know however that there really haven't been nearly as many infant bodies found that I am aware of) the average life span of "Primitive" people was just as long as ours if not a bit more.
Living close to the land gives you a greater access to a more wholistic diet. Even considering that wild animals have much lower fat content than domesticate so you have less artery clogging. Most things that are harmful in nature live near things that can cure the illness associated with it. It is interesting how nature balances that way.
The expanding Earth theory has no less founding in science than does Plate Tectonics. Do you think anyone has actually seen a cross section of the Earth to know that they are indeed correct? It is merely speculation all of it. Therefore only a theory and not truth. Just like in the middle ages everyone was sure that the Earth was the center of the universe and the other solar bodies are revolving around it. Only Theory, not truth.
Science deals completely in theory focusing on only a small portion of the item it studies. It'd be like me studying someones fingernail and saying that is what a human is. Science fails to see the whole picture. That is why it can't be trusted and is only theory.

Originally posted by adkchamp
If the years never lasted 365 days or actually, if we never had numbers to represent "age", we would live forever...

It goes back to those who decided to make up our calendar.

I'm sorry I don't follow you.