What I believe is proof of ets on earth -

reply to post by daluniverse



I'm not a skeptic in any sense of the word when it comes to UFOs, Alien life forms, outer planetary life.
I've seen many ufos in my life...whether human designed or alien, I don't know. Official NASA footage from the early years confirms other advanced vehicles in space through the 60's-70's-80's.

I have no doubt in my mind aliens exist or advanced life forms that pre-date us and are injected into our history.


With that said...your OP does NOT constitute "absolute proof". Your OP is an OPINION based on anecdotal evidence.

Please stop making "Absolute Proof" threads people, when you have no such thing.

reply to post by TrueBrit


I understand where you are coming from though I have provided much proof to what I say in prior posts here on ATS. If you claim to read all of my posts and then ask myself a question, I will answer to the best of my knowledge. I have been quite open here and welcome any debate where one finds it within reason.

I do understand your resistance though you should remember, the most important laws of the Universe was 'seAn' or envisioned before it was 'attempted' to be put to print.
All natural laws such as gravity, electromagnetism or Energy itself is impossible to be 'captured' in print alone and every 'invention' was seAn before put to print.

So, yes, it does require some faith in one's reason to understand truth itself though even math itself has it's own proofs which thereby should imply by factual reasoning that the truth was seAn before put to print. In mathematics, there is only 'one' answer as there is to truth itself though.....then again, math is only one part, one dimension of 'thE' equation.

This should put things in perspective.
Do you understand?
Dis-connected.....
Not giving up.....
zzzzz

They teach of GODS and SUPERNATURAL beings in college folks. Anyone ever take a world literature class in college? We weren't debating Joe Blow the carpenter wearing rags and ox leather sandels.. We were discussing Joe Blow the guy with one eye and 4 arms. And his brother the GIANT. And his cousins that rose from the sea. And great wars waged by his neighbors that included lightening bolts and flaming chariots.

If that stuff is not true then why do they teach it in EVERY college on this planet? Why teach students nonsense and lies?

You can't even get a college degree unless you take and pass a test that involves supernatual beings. Everything we know involves some strange tale of GODS.

Anyone else think it's strange that the Earth's precession exactly matches the Mayan calendar. Their calendar is 26K years. The Earth's precession is 26K years.

How is it possible for these two things to match up perfectly without some kind of advanced knowledge of the solar system? You telling me it was just sheer coincedence?

Scott Peterson was convicted on circumstantial evidence. There is enough circumstantial evidence to conclude beyond a reasonable doubt that beings exist and have visited us from time to time.

Originally posted by Come Clean
Scott Peterson was convicted on circumstantial evidence. There is enough circumstantial evidence to conclude beyond a reasonable doubt that beings exist and have visited us from time to time.

Scott Peterson wasn't convicted because of a bunch of peoples stories and tall tales about him killing Lacey and Connor. There was more to it than that. In this case thats ALL the evidence that there is. If you can provide me with any links proving otherwise I'll gladly look at them

See, we all know all those things already friend. None of what you posted is news. Well you claim "absolute proof" and then give none so I guess that part is noteworthy but the rest reads as though you just found out all this stuff.

Yawn...

Sure I'd be fun it it were true. Maybe it is. Proof? No. There is no proof but just stories that excite the imagination.

For the record, I am a believer. I believe that it is very likely that some outsiders had business here a long time ago and that, at that time, all the locals knew about. I hope that we all find out that it really is true but I'm not about to claim I have "absolute proofs".

Double Yawn...

Carry on amigo. We wish you all the "reptilian" best.

tt

Originally posted by daluniverse
okay look at this



you can clearly make out helicopter, tank, submarine etc

now the skeptical explanation is `these markings were caused by water erosion over time`

give me a break

its very obvious that somebody at that time saw those things and drew them down!

This example has always appeared to neat for my liking. Its almost like it was completed yesterday. Any how why would visitors use helicopters didn't they arrive from well way out there, why bring a helicopter isn't that a bit primitive. Surly they would have been able to get around more efferently after all helicopters are pretty inefficient.

Why do people keep creating threads like this stating things like "proof", "evidence" and "can't be denied" only to provide nothing in their post that comes anywhere near these claims?

Stop wasting everyones time, there's no proof here. The fact that the op received so many stars and flags for this thread is disturbing, and exemplifies the ignorance and blind faith that's so prevalent on this site.

YES ALIENS GOOD JOB

reply to post by CHA0S


You're right, that is the logical explanation. To think that myths were invented by less knowlegable peoples to help explain the world around them, that's the height of absurdity! And to think there could be any other explanation for ancient works that appear strange to untrained modern observers is absolute nonsense. It is obvious archaeologist, anthropologists and historians are completely wrong. The only people with the right answers are those without any knowledge of these fields looking at the past with a biased modern perspective.

reply to post by Come Clean


The court-room fallacy. UFO believers would do well to educate themselves on the differences between legal and scientific standards of evidence.

He'll, UFO believers would do well to educate themselves in general.

reply to post by daluniverse


Now i believe ET life has visited us in the past...but your lack of research, evidence and the tone which you have portraid your views is very annoying...sorry to disappoint but you really have NO proof.

you cant put the "evidence" ball in skeptics court..its not their job to prove anything...and tellin them to get over themselves?? seriously?

youve basically just turned around and sed aliens exist i am right you are wrong..you have obviously just stumbled across information about ancient civilisations and what they drew on cave walls and have immediately convinced yourself its aliens...you are too easily lead and run with a theory without sufficient facts.

also...as far as the ancient civ's go...your right in saying they probably werent lying...but how do you know what they saw? a shooting star or meteor shower to them may look like gods of fire or somethin...who knows?

i was very disappointed after reading the thread title "absolute proof" and then your only argument was about the ancient civ's drawings...this has been braught up douzens of times...sure its interesting...deffinately suggests they saw soemthing up there...but as for absolute proof of ET life....it isnt im afraid.

this thread is disappointing and pointless,

Originally posted by Perseus Apex
reply to post by InnerstellarOne

 

I've spoken/posted of my knowledge of Jesus.
The spirit, essence, of Jesus is 'not' of this Earth, therefor would/could be classified as an ET.
It's that simple.
What makes one suppose Jesus was a 'human' of temporal being of an 'encapsulated' world?
Would the 'Spirit' of 'Jesus' feel physical pain on a cross?
The 'pain' came from the betrayal of conscience.
Men knew of the 'wrong' of their actions, behavior toward their fellow man yet chose to 'choose' otherwise.

Could one 'see' the spirit of Jesus or just 'where' the truth or any laws come from?



The Holy Spirit Is Jesus, He is a man, Gods spirit was seeded into Jesus, Therefore the Image of the invisible Father.

Who says that you need to see proof to believe in something we cannot see?

I cannot see hell but i know it exists, I cannot see heaven, But i know im going there when christ comes.

Faith is taking a step of the unseen and hoping for it without disbelief.
Therefore i beleive Jesus is the son of God, Who sits on the right hand of power in heaven.
I believe God almighty is there, And he loves me.
Thats faith.

Jesus was a man, He was the son of man, He was God in the Flesh, The holy spirit baptised him when he was baptised by john.
The spirit of God was upon him, So therefore There is the holy spirit, Gods seed in jesus, Being In a mans Body, But of a virgin holy birth, Born without sin.
you could say Jesus was an ET, because his seed is not from earth but of heaven.
But he was a man you have to realise, He came as a man, And rose as the king of man and heaven.

hope this clears up what you mean

Anyways ET's

Nephilim's, Tares, Hybrids, Reptillians, Draconians, Andromedians, Fallen Angels.

All pretty much are seeds of satan sent to destroy the message of God.

First Satan fell to the earth before god created man.

Think about that

Can you please cite me at least 10 of the "1000's" of "civiliazations" that uniformely describe the same beings?

By the same logic I could say that many ancient civilizations had myths about mysterious beings in the oceans and that therefore there is some kind of ultra-sophsiticated civilization living on the bottom of the worlds oceans. It seems like a non-sequitur to me.

Having a degree in History makes me a skeptic whenever someone writes "thousands of civilizations" as there clearly were not thousands. We do not even count individual "civilizations" in the hundreds. There's only a handful of distinct "civilazations" in history and to say that they uniformely reported the same things is to be ingorant of the sources. Their mythology varied in much the same way that our religions vary today - nobody would argue that Islam and christianity are the same thing just because they make use of the same theological archetpyes. If you study archetypes and early lithurgy and art you will come to understand that there's only so many archetypes to work with from the start - which makes a certain similarity in mythology something that is to be expected.

Also, your account of "thousands of reports" of "UFOS spraying the black death" is misguided. There were some myths that went in that direction - a handful, not thousands - and they stand against a very reasonable and very well understood chain of events described by traditional historians.
We pretty much understand how the plague could be so deadly and wide-spread without taking UFOs and death-gass into the equation. It's really silly to claim that the black death was accompanied by uniform reports about UFO's spraying gass - honestly, it's simply a lie. There are a few accounts that go in that direction - as there are several still existing from that time that make it clear that the plague was the first sign of Armaggedon, and you wouldn't give credence to that only on the basis of that testimony, would you? - but to claim that this notion was widespread or coonly accepted in the 14th century is to promote bogus history.

Having studied the European Middle Ages extensively - especially the commercial revoultion and its relation with the black death, I can categorally state that the Plague was not accompanied uniformely by strange sightings. In fact, descriptions of the plague only very rarely referred to external events short of the standard armageddon narrative, the UFO being the seldom-most of explenations.

I can't tell you what proof will satisfy me, only time can tell. But I can wholeheartedly state that your post did not.

Originally posted by daluniverse
okay look at this



you can clearly make out helicopter, tank, submarine etc

now the skeptical explanation is `these markings were caused by water erosion over time`

give me a break

its very obvious that somebody at that time saw those things and drew them down!

"Water erosion" is not the skeptical explanation. It is a palimpsest.

If it is so obvious that relief depicts, perhaps you can tell us what it says. After all, it is not just a random collection of images, but writing. So what does it say?

Originally posted by daluniverse

i havent watched the history programe nor have i watched zacharia sitchins movies, my point is this

a pestimist will say ` a glass is half empty` and an optimist will say `a glass is half full`

if somebody is looking at it from a skeptical mind frame they will ALWAYS be skeptical...

edit on 8-10-2010 by daluniverse because: (no reason given)

there is no glass.

every truth is but a half truth.

Originally posted by InnerstellarOne
Anyways ET's

Nephilim's, Tares, Hybrids, Reptillians, Draconians, Andromedians, Fallen Angels.

All pretty much are seeds of satan sent to destroy the message of God.

First Satan fell to the earth before god created man.

Think about that

no thankyou...sensible suggestions only
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reply to post by daluniverse


I agree with your thinking but I dont think it proves anything... I have theories about our past but the ancient drawings dont exactly prove ET existence, although there are the ruins of Pumu Punku! Havent met a single skeptic can explain that one