U.S. soldiers accused of murdering Afghans ‘posed for pictures with corpses and body parts’

It seems like a lot of repsonses in this thread are confusing some issues and it makes me curious. Is there not a difference between the brutality of war and just hunting people? We are talking about innocent victims here, right? These were just people, not German Commanders. These people did not do anything to deserve vengance upon them, they were just people. I can understand the idea of the gloves coming off and men becoming more brutal against their enemies but actively hunting and brutalizing innocent people seems like a different issue. Is it just me?

reply to post by Curiousisall
All of the things that I spoke of in my last post are war crimes, banned by the Geneva Convention. Killing civilians intentionally also is a war crime.

I am not confused.

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It certainly sounds to me like you are purposely trying to confuse the issue of breaking the GC against an enemy and braking the GC against the population you are there to protect. You really see those as the exact same thing?

reply to post by Curiousisall
No. I was questioned about atrocities breeding more atrocities, and I agreed that the other poster had a valid point.

War can get confusing sometimes too. A lot of civilians kill soldiers in a war, they fall outside of the GC. That's why we have our soldiers wear uniforms.

I love the view of innocent human life from most Americans..." Oh look at our 9/11 victims, let's go murder 10,000 times the amount of innocent victims, and guess what who cares".

Sick.

This story has been in the Australian news for quite some time, the commander or whatever went around throwing grenades and shooting innocent civilians (children also) who are just trying to live in a U.S run war zone and the filthy excuse for a human would save himself a little ear, a bit of hair ect. KEEP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THAT.

And for the record it is his fellow lower ranking men that raised the flag about this monster.

But atill no justice for the tens of thousands of innocent humans American and coillition troops have slaughtered.

The only reason these storys are coming out is because of wikileaks.

Again, I am very disgusted about the view points of many posters on this thread concerning the lives of innocent victims, KEEP SPINNING IT AS ANTI U.S PROPAGANDA FOOLS. Only you and hick believe it.

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Ummmm, read the story and have the facts first, secondly it is anti american propoganda, thirdly, you're welcome..............as I'm sure american troops will be exposed again, all the while keeping secret the terror inflicted by other countries soldiers, like oh, I don't know, maybe Austrailia. It's just not good news unless it's us, so again, you're welcome.

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You will notice that I addressed the thread and not you personally so I find your rash defense a little odd and really kind of a the equivelent of a vague head bob. I know you wrote some things, just not sure what you were really trying to say with respect to my post. If you are just looking for someone to argue nonsense with, please move along. Maybe your ego has you thinking this thread is only about you, I do not know.

The fact of the matter is that trying to compare brutalities to brutalities regardless of victim is a false analogy and seems a disservice to the men and woman nobly protecting my freedom to express that.

Originally posted by Curiousisall
It seems like a lot of repsonses in this thread are confusing some issues and it makes me curious. Is there not a difference between the brutality of war and just hunting people? We are talking about innocent victims here, right? These were just people, not German Commanders. These people did not do anything to deserve vengance upon them, they were just people. I can understand the idea of the gloves coming off and men becoming more brutal against their enemies but actively hunting and brutalizing innocent people seems like a different issue. Is it just me?

Hey Curiousisal,thanks or the reply ,your right a dead body should be deserved the compassion of every day life.I know its war and all but there is no need for degrading their bodies. They are soldiers but to have their pictures used as trading cards is just sick.
Its the two of us ,but by the look of it were losing the battle

reply to post by Curiousisall
I don't know what this is about....

Maybe your ego has you thinking this thread is only about you, I do not know.

As for this....

You will notice that I addressed the thread and not you personally so I find your rash defense a little odd and really kind of a the equivelent of a vague head bob.

I believe that you were mentioning me specifically, due to this.....

These were just people, not German Commanders

Was there someone else speaking specifically of Germans on this thread?

Next...

If you are just looking for someone to argue nonsense with

If I was looking to 'argue nonsense' (WTH?), I would pick you to do it with.

Then this....

please move along

I didn't realize that you are a moderator now.

The fact of the matter is that trying to compare brutalities to brutalities regardless of victim is a false analogy and seems a disservice to the men and woman nobly protecting my freedom to express that.

I guess you are not a psych major ? Ever hear of PTSD?

Edit to add: I am truly sorry if any of my posts bothered you that much, but I am not changing for you. I will only do that for my wife.

Well now, I never said I agreed with it........but I don't see how this is only a U.S. problem. Troops around the world do this, and it seems to only be news when it's an American troop. It's happened through out history, only now, it's more widely known about, doesn't make it right, but it doesn't stop only with us. It's also another thing to make judgements on people who have been through and seen what these people have...............maybe if the military did a better job screening people, as time goes on, they could stop some of this. But, people being people will change with their environment, and as the carnage becomes more and more, you adapt to things you couldn't possibly imagine.

Originally posted by earthdude
My town is filling with soldiers comming back. You can smell the blood of children on them. Crime skyrockets. It was good having them away, but now they have returned with mental baggage.

Instead of belittling them, how about HELPING THEM readjust back to society?
Someone else said it, this is our generation's Vietnam, look what happened to those soldiers when they got home, noone helped them, how about we BREAK that cycle?

...anti-american propaganda?... if these photos really exist, it cannot be propaganda - unless - you consider exposing unflattering truth as propaganda, which is not an uncommon way to be for those who prefer fantasy and those that like to push fantasy...

...gwb and his horde of scum had hissy fits about soldiers spreading around photos of coffins covered with american flags - because - their war (for profit) was easier to push if the majority of citizens werent exposed to those pictures...

...we probably only hear of less than 1% of the atrocities that actually take place... the often-used excuse of "they (the enemy) do it too" is exactly that - an excuse, a very immature one...

...why cant the military psych exams screen out these kinds of people?... because the potential soldiers being screened are reasonably normal THEN... repetitive trauma is what pushes some over the edge and there is no way to screen for who will fall and who wont...

Originally posted by earthdude
My town is filling with soldiers comming back. You can smell the blood of children on them. Crime skyrockets. It was good having them away, but now they have returned with mental baggage.

Originally posted by HomerinNC
Instead of belittling them, how about HELPING THEM readjust back to society?

...someone that "smells the blood of children on them" lacks the intellectual tools to help anyone adjust to anything, except maybe fantasy...

Originally posted by HomerinNC
Someone else said it, this is our generation's Vietnam, look what happened to those soldiers when they got home, noone helped them, how about we BREAK that cycle?

...its not true that no one helped nam soldiers readjust... many did get help... many didnt... some, even if they got help, never got over what happened to them... of those that i know personally that managed to live a successful life after nam, it was because they avoided the VA and fantasy-addicted flag wavers like the plague and helped themselves...

...as for breaking that cycle - the only way to accomplish that is to never have another war and thats not likely to happen because the rich and powerful will always be able to convince the have-nots that war is a necessary evil...

If I ever saw soldiers I was with taking pictures or sharing these pictures with each other I would give them a swift kick to the side of the head of drag their knocked out butt to the commander.

There is no excuse for my fellow soldiers doing this crap.

Originally posted by Becoming
If I ever saw soldiers I was with taking pictures or sharing these pictures with each other I would give them a swift kick to the side of the head of drag their knocked out butt to the commander.

There is no excuse for my fellow soldiers doing this crap.

Thanks for the reply pal,i agree with you totally. I know wars bad is and all just that is a bit much to trade pictures,id be throwing a few boots with you.
All in all they majority are doing a great job