Christian Conspiracy: Your Sinful Nature

What is our nature? What are we at our core?

God is Light.
The same light that lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
You are the light of the world.
(1John 1:5, John 1:9, Matthew 5:14)

We are an individual piece of Divine light that has sparked off the Source Creator Spirit. That is our nature, what we are at the core of our being. That is the picture that the above 3 bible verses creates and supports. Very clean and simple. And truth!

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But what of most Christian theology? Most dogma will tell you that all men are born with a sinful nature. This is foundational to the entire belief system. You're going to hell and need a Saviour because of this. But, it's not true.

'You are the light of the world' was said by Jesus in the Sermon on the Mount to a random gathering of people. Christians take this verse for themselves and say it only applies to them, after they are born again. Nope, Jesus said it to a random collection of people gathered on a mountainside, representative of all human beings. He said it to all and it applies to all. The Light lights every man that comes into the world. You, you who are reading this, are the light of the world.

Now this may seem a small thing, a tiny thread. But sit with it. And as you tug on that thread it will rent a hole in the garment large enough for you to walk through. Most of us go to religion because we ask, Who am I, Why am I here? The answer we are given in Christianity is ultimately, you are a sinner and you're here to get saved by a saviour. Why we are not told the truth, I don't know. Perhaps it's a conspiracy.

We are a divine chunk of light split off of and lit by the Source Light. We are usually asleep to the awesomeness of that. But awakening is happening now. We are, one by one, realizing that we are one with the One, and that we are all one. Fear not. Peace to you.

The conspiracy behind it is money. Church is big business.
I've got an ex wife who has an uncle who is pastor over a church.
The pastor & his family are well....fat and keep a very filthy house. Disarray beyond description.
He tells the people what they want to hear, evidently his oration skills up to par. He owns a magnificent home, luxury cars, Harley motorcycles, boats, takes lavish vacations all due to tithes received from church members. His entire family, kids & grandkids all live with him because they are all either too overweight or too lazy to work - so they are "staff" members in the church. I can see right through him (not literally) everytime I was around him, and all I see is a bloated cretin that feeds off of donations from the congregation that are willing to 'drink the kool-aid' he offers. Churches are businesses - they have to have money to operate and will usually at least once mention that during a service. How they get people to do so is a widely varied method, but usually involves some sort of reference to tithing, which they usually all get wrong anyway.

Jesus also said (paraphrased; haven't read a bible in a while) You can do all these things I do. Go do them.
There is no $profit$ in being God-like. Even though being divine brings you happiness, some people fear the power they hold. They fear becoming a megalomaniac - or being condemned as one. Better to hide your light under a basket than be swarmed with people asking you to intervene in their lives and heal them of all their worldly problems.
I don't know if it's a conspiracy as much as it's a business machine.

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Please allow me to give you a star and flag. You hit the nail on the head.

It took me a long time to come to this conclusion. I spent most of my life feeling guilty because of what I heard from Christians. Finally, I overcame it and realized that I am the "spark" that you speak of. No more guilt for me.

I think it would do US citizens having problems with fundie-'christianity' good to be outside the rather suffocating religious atmosphere in US.

Where I live, fundies overdoing it, are considered as individuals insisting upon wearing funny hats in public. We'd feel embarrased on their part.

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Ajikesh,

I won't lay much out here but the way our creator wanted our first parents to walk was not galding, they chose to be diobedient. Then that disobedience comes out in all offspring after them down to us. Now He came as one of us with no power but we can have to be overcomers of sin. Yes we all have sinned for all of us has broken the Royal Law as of ourselves we do not have mastery over the devil and his angels. We are no match that is why we need the indwelling Saviour in us to walk as we should in True Love that commits no sin.

Just a few verses if any will read them to clarify the topic.

1Jo 1:8 ¶ If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jo 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jo 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

It's our priviledge to believe or not for He gives us freedom and that freedom will be wasted by many. I am a totally free man in Christ Jesus, Yahshua and that means I am fully, totally free within His will for me and His will and way for me is not galding in any way but is the True Way to eternal peace.

Only the Truth will set us free and He is the Truth and the Way. Just find it and you too will be free. Freed from the prison house of Satan.

Truthiron

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One thing can help, that is wanting to be right. Example: 2 + 2 = 4;7 x 2 = 14!
Now be rght in thinking, the thinking is linked with your heart? You've got familyproblems. Your family loves the world and is friend with the devil. To be a true christian you like expanding in knowledge and have rightfull conversations with people. Friends. Friends do not hurt eachother.
Being the Jerk day in and day out will get you far in trouble, once.. the state finds out who you are.
Listen to the voice in your head,.. the one you can understand. When there is something difficult about it you should notice who you're going with. Friend with the world is friend with the devil. The devil likes to own so he can say it is his and not yours. He likes the "fEelIng" very much??
Conversate, if you are allready troublesome, make your companions lend an ear to you. I hope you don't have to be amazed about who they are. Create a heart of goodness. Being good is being tough. Tough and strong. Your eyes will look straight in no time blastin' aside ingorant thoughts about your enemies.

Sometimes a fight is needed, fights happen. Then I have also this for you:

1 Corinthians 4;
Apostles of Christ

1So then, men ought to regard us as servants of Christ and as those entrusted with the secret things of God. 2Now it is required that those who have been given a trust must prove faithful. 3I care very little if I am judged by you or by any human court; indeed, I do not even judge myself. 4My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me. 5Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.

And this:

Isaiah 40;

21 Do you not know?
Have you not heard?
Has it not been told you from the beginning?
Have you not understood since the earth was founded?

This is a childsafe read.

Greets,

Friend

There is no conspiracy in being sinful. Always do what you know that is the right thing.

As Genesis tells; Do not eat of the forbidden fruit God told Adam, thou shalt surely die.

Since the sin of death cameth upon the human race God gave Jesus as ransom for our sins, since none of us is responsible for our sinfull nature. Jesus wants you!

Greets.

I

Very good, we are big sinner, but we just don't know it. People think they are going to be saved, because they just go to a church you get saved. Never. People get saved because they eliminated their sins, their ego. People are not going to be saved because they got sins.

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Gregory, middlepaths, I nameth thee Gregory..

Do as you still feel that which is right. www.earlychristianwritings.com... is a good read for you, as for everyone. It is a book found in the constellation of books called the bible.



Very good, we are big sinner, but we just don't know it. People think they are going to be saved, because they just go to a church you get saved. Never. People get saved because they eliminated their sins, their ego. People are not going to be saved because they got sins.


Do good,.. sin will fall away. Search God and God will reach out a hand. Going to church doesn't help, willing to participate in the worldchurch will do it. You'll see what real work is. Jesus is our savior. Just him. Solely Jesus Christ. He creates hearts. Remorse sins, your look will be enlightened. You'll feel you solely want to do good. Punishment is good. Punish right. ex. Your friend borrowed your bike and promised to return it on thursdaynoon for you need it in the afternoon and he lacked in trust, your appointment wasn't made on time. Be angry at it (it happens naturally). When you don't care, you don't care about anything and need some behavior. You need to fill in your spot again. It could give you a hit like a jackhammer but at least you can go further in life.

Grootness.