AG: FBI agents won't be charged in imam's death

AG: FBI agents won't be charged in imam's death

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Michigan's attorney general said Thursday that he won't file criminal charges against FBI agents who shot a Detroit mosque leader 20 times, killing him during a raid last year on a suburban warehouse.

It is "undisputed" that Luqman Ameen Abdullah fired at agents, resisted arrest and rejected demands to surrender, Attorney General Mike Cox said.

"Under Michigan law, law enforcement agents are justified in using deadly force in these types of situations, and therefore we found no crimes," Cox sa

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I expect this from local police officials... but from the FBI? I am very puzzled at this from a few different facets. One, this is at a Michigan Mosque. What is the FBI there doing a raid for? Secondly, of course the guy would be resisting. Secondly, the FBI agent killed the guy and shot him 20 times. Can't they try him for murder? This is absolutely nuts. This is the kind of thing that tea-party folks should be outraged about. What the hell is going on her?

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Originally posted by Frankidealist35


I expect this from local police officials... but from the FBI? I am very puzzled at this from a few different facets. One, this is at a Michigan Mosque. What is the FBI there doing a raid for? Secondly, of course the guy would be resisting. Secondly, the FBI agent killed the guy and shot him 20 times. Can't they try him for murder? This is absolutely nuts. This is the kind of thing that tea-party folks should be outraged about. What the hell is going on her?

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No... Absolutely nuts is flying airplanes into towers...


This was normal Leo behavior

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EDIT: What is a LEO? I am not familiar with the term.

I agree with you on that it's also nuts to fly airplanes into twin-towers. I just don't understand why people who say they're for small-government or for limited government seem to be perfectly fine with justifying the actions of police or federal officials when they're in normal situations even when they're not fighting anyone.

They're really only small-government when it agrees with them but the more they defend this kind of stuff like the FBI agents here, the more they're exposing themselves for the authoritarians that they are. I mean, it's not just about being against it because it's wrong or immoral. People's lives are at stake with this kind of thing. People can get killed by cops and federal officials.

Originally posted by Frankidealist35
I expect this from local police officials... but from the FBI? I am very puzzled at this from a few different facets. One, this is at a Michigan Mosque. What is the FBI there doing a raid for? Secondly, of course the guy would be resisting. Secondly, the FBI agent killed the guy and shot him 20 times. Can't they try him for murder? This is absolutely nuts. This is the kind of thing that tea-party folks should be outraged about. What the hell is going on her?

It was a sting operation involving stolen goods. It says that in the source.

He refused to comply fully and then he started shooting. In this situation it is pretty much standard practice to kill him. Once the use of lethal force is justified, how many shots equates to a murder? Sorry to be grisly but you have to certain that he is dead.

You can't defend this man as he clearly had ill intentions. The fact that he had a weapon and that he drew it during an FBI raid shows he had no good intention, as he killed the dog in the process. His poor choices caused his death. This man also was a leader of a radical sunni group that wants to make the U.S. an Islamic state governed by Shariah law. Shooting him 20 times may have been a bit overboard, but it is completely justifiable that they shot this man, I'm sure they'd have done the same thing if he were white or any other nationality, especially when being shot at, their training expects them to shoot back in a situation like this. Those dogs are also considered officers of the law FYI so technically he just killed somebody's friend companion and partner.

This is standard for the religion of peace. They want to kill you and impose Sharia law. It's the same the world over. I'm just glad they got this one. Unfortunately there is an endless supply of ready made terrorists in the muslim community. All that has to happen is for them to start taking their so called holy book seriously, and then it's, jihad, and "smite the infidel" time.

this man was more or likely a product of radical Muslim brainwashing, and probably supported the idea of Jihad on America...I understand America is messed up on a government level, but these people inflict their casualties upon the populace, which in majority doesn't support any type of tyrannical government as I see it, thus they target the completely wrong person with their actions. It's sad to see, but people definitely get the picture that's for sure.

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You do realize that the Qu'ran doesn't tell Islamic people to kill civilians right and that it's just the radical extremists who say that do you? These radical extremists are the ones that have been misconstruing the Islamic religion and we've only been able to recently understand more of what the Qu'ran really says through the internet and the information age. These extremists make up a minority of the Islamic population. Don't paint them all with the same brush. Muslims are more likely to condemn terror than we are. Sigh, why am I even bothering to try?

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You're not supposed to shoot criminals in America just without any reason to. You arrest them and you give them a fair trial. Even if he stole goods from a store... that's no reason to shoot him and like kill him like that. Treat the dude like a normal criminal. Haven't you heard about the 5th and 6th amendment? That's not how things are supposed to work here.

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I thought what I wrote was clear enough. They tried to arrest him but he wasn't compliant and then he started shooting. You do not then politely suggest that he stops shooting you kill him immediately.

They were treating him like a normal criminal but he clearly wasn't. Normal criminals can follow simple instructions and normal criminals know that if they acted in that way then they would be killed.

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That's simply not how the system works. When someone is not being compliant and refusing to listen to instructions that's when police usually use more force to bring the suspect down and to tackle them and make them stop acting in a certain way. The FBI agent could have tasered the dude and arrested him. There is no real way that you can justify him being shot 20 times. And a lot of criminals resist at first. That's the very essence of what makes someone criminal. When they're caught in the act they'll resist! It doesn't give officers the right to shoot someone 20 times.

if you were in the agents shoe's you would shoot back after watching him turn and shoot the police dog 3 times...his motives were ill and what these agents did was very much self defense...the discharging of his weapon ensured his own death because he already had more than one gun pointed at him I'm sure...just because he's an imam doesn't make this man special in such cases where you would be shot for resisting arrest with a firearm...

don't worry,

he is enjoying all them virgins.

in america and i could guess any other country, you don't kill a police dog and refuse to desist and then try to shoot

anyone else unless you really want to die.

Originally posted by Frankidealist35
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That's simply not how the system works. When someone is not being compliant and refusing to listen to instructions that's when police usually use more force to bring the suspect down and to tackle them and make them stop acting in a certain way. The FBI agent could have tasered the dude and arrested him. There is no real way that you can justify him being shot 20 times. And a lot of criminals resist at first. That's the very essence of what makes someone criminal. When they're caught in the act they'll resist! It doesn't give officers the right to shoot someone 20 times.

are you always this dumb? the guy shot first. Let me shoot at you and see if you dont shoot back.