Revealing Self-Test!! (Fun, too.)

Ok, I'll bite,
A-This is the one that will ultimately save them all
B-Bastard-but hey she fell for it, got to give him that, and he did follow through with the deal
D-I would have done the same thing, the islands were swimmable for gosh sake! Maybe he just wasn't that into her anyway.
E-Yeah, nice but boring
C-Slut, no brains, should have made her own raft or swam.

Now I've got to go back and find the answers anyone know what page?

My answer would be
ALL OF THEM
We are all one A B C D E and ME ;-)

the test itself is fubar. you cannot judge people only by their actions, and it feels wrong doing so.
but that might just be the answer :-)

Anyways, give us the frickin key! :-P

Originally posted by UmbraSumus
1. E ........because he took care of C without preconditions.
2.A ........ because his desire to channel his energies into getting help and off the island are essentially for the good of everybody . (Perhaps he could of been more tactful in how he expressed his priorities. He certainly could of assuaged lady C anxieties of never seeing Mr. D again. )
3.D ...... his reaction is understandable given what he had just witnessed. Perhaps the reason why C slept with B will bring him round. (She is the only woman on the island after all)
4.C .......too eager to sleep with Mr.B . Did she attempt to swim across, build a raft herself , petition the man repairing the radio further, or even try to signal the other island .Or have faith in MrA`s abilities to repair the radio.
5. B ........because his actions were despicable and opportunistic .

To recap.......

1.E
2.A
3.D
4.C
5.B

edit on 26-9-2010 by UmbraSumus because: edit text length

edit on 26-9-2010 by UmbraSumus because: To recap

Ditto. You took the words outta my mouth.

B is the worst of the bunch because he took advantage of a situation to better his own situation.
C is the second worst because she was willing to sacrifice her values to fulfill her needs.
D chose his own personal needs over his loved one when he failed to account for her during his swim to the island
A was un sympathetic to the needs of another and I suspect that this was do to his own self interest.
E was sympathetic to the needs of C and was willing to provide her with quarter

I say A E C D B. A - he's the only one trying to help them all, perhaps he could have been more diplomatic but diplomacy can wait if I'm trying to save your life. E - because he doesn't hesitate to offer assistance when needed. C - a time of panic such as this, when you're not sure if you're going to live through it or not, it makes sense to want to be with your love. I'm not saying her decision is justified but I do understand the motive. D - he does absolutely nothing and then condemns C without hearing her out. B - he takes advantage of a fellow human being in a very vulnerable situation; I favor cooperation over exploitation.


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Most liked to least liked:

In the subject of C's plight with her love-

D. He was cheated on - end of story.
E. He was willing to take her in after proving herself untrustworthy.
A. Did not act to aid C.
C. Readily agreed to provide sexual favors to get what she wanted regardless of established relationship.
B. Knew of C's love and made her do something against that love for his own benefit. (people like this guy should be shot)

In the subject of the whole shipwrecked scenario -

A. He was apparently the only one doing anything remotely useful.
C-D. Order however you like. They were a colossal waste of space.

Yeah... now change the genders around, and see if you still have the same order of importance.

LOL!

(I only slept with this girl to be with YOU Baby!)

-Edrick

reply to post by ladyinwaiting


A He was trying to help everyone off the Island
B He helped C build a raft, even though he had his way with her.
C she was desperately trying to get to her lover
E He gave C shelter and food, and provided for her
D He was a tool bag that didn't do crap then I got pissed when he got the shaft, next time he needs to put more effort in helping other people instead of thinking only of himself.

Hopefully I got them in correct order.

i definitely have to say:

1. E was compassionate and selflessly took C in. i admire selflessness above most things.
2. A for being a survivalist.
3. D because he is so in love. i wish he wouldn't listened to what C had to say, but that's not how things happened.
4. C, also because she is so in love. i would never have agreed to what C did, but D&C were almost tied in ranking in my head. i love lovers.
5. B was hands-down my least favorite. he is a manipulative user. i do not like him AT ALL. >


sooo there it is haha

reply to post by ladyinwaiting


From most liked the least liked...

A - He was trying to get help with the radio which would have saved everyone
E - He took in the women when she had no where else to go
D - He stood his ground but he also saw something which was out of context for him and he let that ruin what he had with the women
C - She was not loyal to the one she loved, even though she did what she did to get to him, it was something he wouldn't have wanted to happen
B - He took advantage of a women in love and is obviously selfish

So, whats the 'key' to this quit? I'd like to see my answer(s)

And by the way, good thread Lady

I am reposting the key here, in case anyone has difficulty finding it:

KEY


These are the values of each person on the islands:


A: represents Intelligence.
He set emotions aside, and went straight to work with problem-solving.

B: represents Power
He had ability, he took control, and he made things happen.

C : represents Sex
If you have to ask, you're too young to know.

D: represents Morality
He held himself and her up to certain standards, and he did not tolerate being outside those standards.

E: represents Love
He gave to her unconditionally.




Aha, it's so easy to see, now, isn't it?

It is easy to see after the fact, and it's a very clever little test.

Of course, we all rank those values differently depending on the situation (as not every situation is affected by all of these values), but it's a good overall assessment of a person's values in general.

reply to post by ladyinwaiting


Thank you for re-posting it, I didn't know it had been posted already (maybe have a mod edit your OP and put it in there or say what page it's on with a link?).

Originally posted by Gazrok
It is easy to see after the fact, and it's a very clever little test.

Of course, we all rank those values differently depending on the situation (as not every situation is affected by all of these values), but it's a good overall assessment of a person's values in general.

Very true - once I applied the 'key' to my answers they lined up very quickly. I'm glad to see I ranked 'power' last and intelligence first (followed by love) I obviously already know within how I rank these things but doing it like this can show you things about yourself, although nothing is concrete with these tests and our values do change when we are put in different situations.

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Everyone keeps saying that C "sacrificed" herself. The story doesn't explain whether she enjoyed her romp with B. She chose to betray D, period. I don't care how much I want to see my wife, if she had to sleep with someone else to get to me, and didn't even TRY to make her own raft etc etc....then I would have acted the same as D. That is wrong on her part no matter how you slice it. And so my choices are.....from most liked to least.

E) He helped C without any propositions made. He simply took another survivor in knowing he would have to share food/shelter.

D) He is innocent in this story. Some on here (most likely women), want to say he isn't
"understanding" or "forgiving". I wonder how they would feel if they witnesses their loved one in a sexual act with another women and we told them "we had to do it, we sacrificed to see you."...RIGHT...that would go over really well with my wife. LOL For this reason, I totally understand D's actions. Others replied D wasn't doing anything to help the survivors other than sleep. How could you tell this? It seems as though the story is being told thru C's eyes. She is the only one followed throughout the story. Everyone else just plays their parts and the story swings away from them, but the spotlight always stays on C. We don't know enough about D's daily activities to stay he hasn't done anything. All it said was he was having trouble sleeping (probably because he was worried about C) and leaves his camp to go to beach. He witnesses the sexual activity and who knows what he really saw. The story says it was a clear night so maybe he could tell she was into it and enjoying herself. Some ATSers said what B did constitutes "rape". How so? She agreed to have sex with him and if she wasn't enjoying it then I'm sure D would have been able to see that it was being forced on her. But he doesn't. He gets angry which tells me when he saw them having sex, she was enjoying it. He had every right to be pissed.

A)Although he could have been nicer to C about not making the raft, he was still the only person trying to help all of them. According to the story, B made the raft on a morning. So it obviously wasn't that difficult to make one. A could have done it quick and the story would be much different. Apparently he was the most mechanical of the survivors and could have easily made the raft, yet it was the radio he was most worried about. At first glance that might seem like a good thing, but it could slightly be selfish. Maybe the reason he was so worried bout the radio was because he knew that was "his" best chance at survival. Even so, he wasn't just sitting back and doing nothing so you have to respect his actions.

Tied B&C

B) If B knew about C's love for D then he was very wrong for making such propositions. Although he makes this offer he didn't know what the answer would be. He has no feelings towards either and just like some had used this as an excuse for C to do what she did, maybe he was also stressed. It is a stressed situation for all involved. He was looking for some sexual satisfaction. Should he have used to his ability to make a raft against her, NO. But ultimately the decision was not his.

C) She is the only one in the story who does absolutely nothing to benefit anyone but herself. She doesn't even try to make a raft or figure things out on her own. As soon as A says no to her request for a raft, she immediately runs to the next guy, in this case B who offers to make it for a sexual return. She doesn't have to say yes. She must know that if she does it, D will not like it. Regardless of how much he wanted to see her, that is wrong. The raft only took one morning to make, so it couldn't have been that difficult. She could have tried to do it on her own. But no, sex sounded like a better idea.(slut) And then she chooses to do it on the beach, on a very clear night. If D could see her from his island, then that means she would have known she could see his island and in turn she would have known D could have seen her if he were there. The fact that she went thru with it on the beach knowing she could be seen, doesn't sound very good for her reputation in the story. If it was more like "rape" like some on here have said or if at least she was not enjoying it and was ashamed of her actions she would have changed location. But she didn't. Coincidence? Then when she gets her way and takes the raft and floats to D, on arrival he tells her to leave. He saw her and doesn't want to talk to her. Of course that would be his initial reaction. I think we all would feel that way. It's human nature. And if he didn't feel that way, he obviously didn't care about her much. Understanding and forgiveness only go so far. If you watch your loved
one get down and dirty, I think your gonna need some time to "understand" that. But does she try to reason with him and gain his trust back...nope. Only worried about herself, she needs someone to support her. She runs to E who selflessly gives her a home and food. During such a short span, C jumped to 3 different men. That is not sacrifice. That is selfishness. She can't do anything for herself and she obviously has no qualms about using her sex to further herself. For this reason, she is LAST on my list.

MOST LIKED: A; because he is working on a radio to have them rescued.
SECOND MOST: E; because he took in a woman in need.
THIRD MOST: B; hey, he built her a raft for the lady, and asked for some intimacy in exchange. He didn’t force himself on her.
FOURTH MOST: D; he really should have been more understanding and asked questions before jumping to conclusions and judgment; that is, IF he really wanted a lasting relationship with her.
FIFTH MOST: C; she should’ve been resourceful enough to try and build her own raft; OR helped the guy fix the radio to help *everyone* get rescued. But NO… she is so selfish in that she wants to be with Mr. D ***so badly*** that she sleeps with another man to be with her guy. D’s heart was broken seeing his lady sleep with that other guy on the beach. C is quite possibly a whore. Had she had the wherewithal to either build her own raft or say “No!” to B’s offer, she wouldn’t have broken D’s heart/hurt him/whatever. And, why not sleep on the other side of the island, as to not be seen by D? She doesn’t have much for brains (probably a blonde –just kidding).
SIXTH MOST: F; he is the one who planted the explosives that sunk the ship.

OK, its hard to do this with no context or extended information but here is my shot. ....making some basic assumptions. From most to least...

E Because he helped unconditionally
A Because he was trying to find a solution to help everyone
C Because she was in love and trying to find her lover
D Because he judged without listening to reason
B Because he was totally selfish

Originally posted by Gazrok
It is easy to see after the fact, and it's a very clever little test.

Of course, we all rank those values differently depending on the situation (as not every situation is affected by all of these values), but it's a good overall assessment of a person's values in general.

That's a good point. I wonder if anyone would change their order if C and D were gay partners and B was a woman? Our attitudes and values change depending on the circumstance.

What if C and D were straight and married to each other? I actually might put C at the bottom in that case. All B did was ask the question. C could have said no based on her love for her husband. I mean really, how hard is it to build a raft? And how did C know D wasn't already building a raft to come get her? She sacraficed her values in a heart beat.

I guess my point is this test doesn't take into account all the social and ideological factors into play. In a perfect world it shouldn't matter and your order stays the same. But the world is far from perfect.

Hm. I have a few little observations and comments. Mind you, the test is what it is, and my opinions are no more valid than anyone else's, this I think you know by now. There is no "correct answer", no "grade".
As BH said, it's more to provide insight into your own values than anything else. No right or wrong.

To: Beast of Gevaudan"

How in the world can D be considered the worst"?

I certainly don't mind sharing my thoughts about this. Everybody is all about his poor hurt feelings. Well, what about her feelings? She did what she did, and based on what little information we have, she did this to be with him. And then he sends her away? And into what? He didn't know E would take her in. For all he knew he was sending her to be eaten by a bear. Or a shark. Or be killed by E. He didn't know. If he were half-way decent, he would have told her maybe the relationship was over, but still would have tried to extend help as a normal human being. Told her at least she could eat and rest before he sent her on her way. Can you imagine how she must have felt? I think this would have caused more emotional pain for her, than what he had.

To: Gazrok

"A" is the Professor.

Oh! I thought A was Phage!

To: Modified
You found something positive to say about everybody except B. I admire that quality about you. Just saying.

To: Harry Tuttle

Somebody has to play the devil's advocate, and it might as well be me.

Yes! And you've done it extremely well! lol.

To: The Associate

Acting like a bunch of horny teenagers

To: Rusethorcain

I'm going to kill him and take his stuff

I also thought about a slight "blurring" with the power/sex value between B and C.
C wielded a great deal of power too, or so it would seem. She had a raft built, she paddled it across the sea, and in a time of trouble she made her way to find someone who would help her. But the difference is, it was a sexual power.

Does this count as power? Hm. Probably. But it's kind of a low-level power. Just like B's was. IMO.

Most

E - He took someone in who was hard up, and there was no talk of C having to do anything for it. E seems like a caring person.

A - A may have dismissed C, but A was busy trying to figure out a way to save everyone.

C - Yes, she did sleep with someone else, but it was only so that she can be reunited with D. Maybe not the smartest move, but it shows how desperate she was to be with the one she loved.

D - Yeah, he was kind mean by simply shutting out C. I can understand why, but there is no talk in the story about him giving her a chance to explain, which is probably why I rated him fourth instead of second or third.

B - Is there really any explaination needed. He had to resort to putting C in an ackward position (or positions, I'm not sure how long it lasted) to help her out.

Least

B - built transportation for the woman in love and did so quid pro quo to both their benefit
A - was wearing blinders worrying about radio rather than getting people from both islands back together
E - he had food and shelter, but didn't bother with those who did not come to him
C - sacrificed much to be with loved one but never noticed that it was one-sided, hence; she's a she-eple
D - If he loved her, he would've built a raft He also never shelped anyone else