Man Kills Himself on Harvard's Campus - "Suicide Note" is Online

Man Kills Himself on Harvard's Campus - "Suicide Note" is Online

This is my first thread here, I think it's in the right place, anyway...

I came across this story yesterday and thought the story was strange and the note interesting...

www.huffingtonpost.com... _n_738121.html

What he left is not merely a "suicide note" but a work that probably took him years and years to compile. I've read the first part of it and all I have to say is WOW. I'm pretty impressed and it changed my views about the world and were we are heading. It was pretty energizing. Because what the author did to himself, I have to assume that there is going to be a point where it doesn't make sense, but so far, it's a good read.

www.suicidenote.info...

i will read this thank you very much for the post , ill reply with my thoughts shortly

many thanks

Nephi


also is i am not sure why but i think your link might be broken ,unless its just me ? anyone els ?

I downloaded it to read later. It is 1905 pages long and in PDF. It must have taken him years to write this. I have never heard of anything like this before.

oh wow ,ya that is long ,my i ask op brfore i jump into this ,what is the topic of his letter ?,aslo is their anymore into on who the guy was and what his major was ?

many thanks

Nephi

reply to post by Nephi1337


Google the name Mitchell Heisman.

Download the PDF file and I am thinking it will not stay up long.

the first link has already been removed, will try the second link see if i can find it

alternatively could someone who downloaded it point me in the right direction?

edit - nevermind found it doh...

wow there is a hell of alot of info on there, and like it has been pointed out, must have taken years.
gonna have a quick scan online see if i can find anymore info on his death

Sorry about the broken link, here it is again

Huffington Post

reply to post by Nephi1337


He's got a psychology degree from the University of Albany, and it looks like he never took any classes at Harvard, but probably used the library for research and may have got in touch with some professors.

From reading the first 100 pages, what I got so far was

1) Fear and loathing of death has no reasoning behind it
2)Natural vs Super Natural and how monotheism was an attempt to guide people to the Super Natural
3) How God doesn't exist because we haven't created him yet (touches on Ray Kurzweil and the Singularity)
4) Tying together points 2 and 3, how Moses, via the Mosaic Law, made a bridge for people to begin the process of creating God.

He talks about the Jews during their time in Egypt and the diaspora and more about their cultural tendencies...It almost felt like he was promoting them, but it was just apart of his argument, and it was a pretty good one, new to me!

I really think it is interesting but if it does start sounding out of whack, I don't know if I'll finish it. It's my goal to so far, since I have nothing else to do

You should probably change the title of the thread to note that the work is 1,904 pages long, would get more attention that way...just my opinion of course.

It seems pretty interesting, I haven't read much but it's pretty in depth.

I downloaded the pdf, and based on the table of contents it looks like an enormous philosophical work. I haven't read any of it, but the subject matter at least looks extremely interesting. Whether it is solid writing or just the ramblings of a suicidal man, I don't know. Heck, for all I know, maybe he plagiarized it from other books, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Originally posted by eccentric_crazy_guy

3) How God doesn't exist because we haven't created him yet (touches on Ray Kurzweil and the Singularity)

That's interesting.

Yes, this is no suicide note, This is a suicide collection of books

Will definitely dig into it and start reading through it, but that will be one big task, to finish almost 2000 pages of text requires the contents to be extraordinarily good, at least for me to keep on reading.

But it has a promising first sentence: "if i am correct, this book will be suppressed..."

There is over 1,900 pages ... this "note" is more like a book. A lot to read, and what I understand thus far is about sociobiological sciences becoming practical application in the political and social engineering process.

Obviously there are other topics. Long read, may spend a week or more reading through it before I make many comments about it.

thanks for sharing,
ET

I just had a thought all of a sudden. Does anybody have any proof that this guy really did commit suicide? I got an error when clicking on the first link, so I apologize if it was covered in there. I mean, for all we know, this guy is sitting at home laughing in front of his computer with a beer and cigarette, watching how many people download the pdf.

edit: Okay, it seems he isn't faking his death; it's covered on several different websites, so I'm thinking it's probably exactly what it appears to be. I'm definitely going to take a look at this in the next few days, as I am curious what he thought was so important that he shot himself in order to draw attention to it.

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I read about 170 pages of it on Saturday. He's got some interesting theories and is a pretty good writer of history. Sadly, moments that reflect a really astute mind are often side by side with passages essentially about hopelessness that kind of turn into rambling. I guess that's what you might expect. Its just the juxtaposition that makes you wish the guy was alive that much more.

reply to post by wigit


yea, I got a bit into this. It seems his theory is that God doesn't have to be an infinite being just more powerful and intelligent then us, therefore technology can be god. In later sections he goes into how capitalism makes it inevitable that we will create a technological god, or technology will create the technological god and it will spell at least some sort of doom for biological life.

I've gone through the first 50 pages so far. It's fairly interesting so far, though as of yet I see no valid reason for the author's fear that it will be suppressed, other than perhaps because of his suicide itself. Time will tell, I suppose.

Originally posted by ghaleon12
You should probably change the title of the thread to note that the work is 1,904 pages long, would get more attention that way...just my opinion of course.

It seems pretty interesting, I haven't read much but it's pretty in depth.

edit on 26-9-2010 by ghaleon12 because: (no reason given)

Thanks for the suggestion

Near the end of the paper, he hints that he has something similar to Asperger's Syndrome, or that he's at least on the Spectrum. I guess that could explain the 1904 pages.