2012 Equation Solved -- Pane "Astral Walker" Andov

reply to post by GeosAlien


I have wondered where this notion of a 12 strand DNA idea came from. It's always good to locate the source of the hoax.


The sun will not expand until the amount of hydrogen in the sun is reduced to a low level. That won't happen for billions years.

reply to post by comatose001


1. All calendars count forward. We only use BC to point out years before year 1.
2. The Mayan calendar does not have to know about other calendars. The connection between calendars is made using correlation functions such as the GMT that is usually used to connect the Mayan calendar to the Gregorian calendar.
3. There are NO prophecies connected to the end of the Haab calendar which is wrapping in 2012.

reply to post by rajaten


Billions of years from now the sun will exhaust its hydrogen supply. The expansion does not happen before then.

reply to post by stereologist


It is still only theory, we are discovering new things about our Sun all the time, recently Scientists have been scratching their heads because they are seeing things they do not understand, what you said is still just a theory based on observations of the night sky.

It really does not matter, if something is going to happen, we as a race are helpless to do anything to stop it, if something does not happen, then we will just move on to the next doomsday scenario, and then the next and so on until we will know nothing about it when something does happen.

Myself I cant wait, I hope something does happen to allow us to go onto a higher plain of existence, but my gut feeling tells me I have to suffer all the indignities of seeing people argue over semantics,( oh it cant be right it doesn't work like that)

How do any of us know what is going to happen, most of it is guess work at best, I would rather listen to the teachings of long long ago, than listen to the lies and nonsense that comes from so called modern Science, and I'm a Scientist.

We are so confident we know everything, yet all the time we watch and shout WTF as we begin to scratch our heads trying to get to the cause, which then leads to another theory which is accepted as fact, when the truth of the matter is they don't know and are too stubborn to admit they don't know.

Not all CC's are fake, those who admit to doing them all are deluded, we have seen some of their attempts and to be honest I wonder if they ever went to school after seeing the state some of the CC's they make are in.

People can call it as they see fit, not all of them are faked, someone (who knows who) seems to have a vested interest in trying to convince all of us that they mean nothing.

BUT WHAT IF THEY DO? what if there is a message in there for all of us? the whole of Humanity, is that information being stolen from us? it appears to me at least there is a message in there, and someone high up knows damn well there is, just like its clear to me after visiting over a dozen CC's (not all convinced me of being real) the ones I am convinced could not have been man made, have a feeling about them that makes you feel different and fulfilled to an extent.

I would recommend to anyone to go out of their way to at least visit one of them before listening to the opinion of those who have already made their minds up about the ones which have appeared, and the ones yet to appear, the same people who believe the World looks fantastic in Black & White.

While the rest of us enjoy poking around in the grey parts of the World.

What I would say is, if something incredible does happen, then hang on for the ride of eternity, this is gonna knock your socks off.

reply to post by GeosAlien


Sorry, but human made ones with broken stems are common. I do it all of the time when I walk through fields. The plants bend they do not break.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by GeosAlien

 

However, looking at Earth conditions, weather patterns, typhoons, floodings, colds, volcano activities above 6.0, tsunami's, sinkholes, global warming, changed sun activity etc., to me at least these seem indicators that our solar system is going through great change.

Nothing out of the ordinary is happening in any of these areas. Yes, they are not the same as last year, but that does not mean anything out of the ordinary is happening.

Sorry, I happen to disagree with your observations.
Recent years are dramatically different than what we have experienced during the last few decades.
If you didn't notice that, you must either be too young and miss that experience, or been dormant.
Now if you are able to list the tsunami's, land floods frequency in ONE season around the world, sink holes, number of above 6.0 earth quakes, global warming, heat, cold winters etc. before the year 2000, you would be able to convert me.

reply to post by azzllin


It is a theory, not a guess as you imply. The theory is based on many observations of many stars.

The objection that we can't tell until it happens is a poor objection at best. Science makes predictions to test its theories. The theory of stars and their life cycles is tested all of the time.

How do any of us know what is going to happen, most of it is guess work at best, I would rather listen to the teachings of long long ago, than listen to the lies and nonsense that comes from so called modern Science, and I'm a Scientist.

The teachings of long long ago were the basis for modern science. Things have been replaced as new information was obtained. To rely on the earliest notions is missing millennia of improvements. Ifg you are indeed a scientist then it should be simple for you to provide one of the lies you are claiming. Please enlighten us.

when the truth of the matter is they don't know and are too stubborn to admit they don't know.

This really casts doubt on your claims of being a scientist. The beauty of science is pointing to the unknown and saying let's find out.

Not all CC's are fake

CC are real artwork made by people. That's all they are. Those who claim they are not human made are as you say deluded.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by rajaten

 

Billions of years from now the sun will exhaust its hydrogen supply. The expansion does not happen before then.

That's the theory, unless something extra-ordinary happens.
Now, if you read my earlier posts in this thread, I have difficulty in accepting Pane's views in this respect, due to the fact that the alleged 2012 phenomenon, is supposed to be a cyclical event repeating itself every 26000 year or so. An incidental explosion of a star some 26000 years ago at 26,000 light years away, wouldn't fit that fact.

reply to post by GeosAlien

Now if you are able to list the tsunami's, land floods frequency in ONE season around the world, sink holes, number of above 6.0 earth quakes, global warming, heat, cold winters etc. before the year 2000, you would be able to convert me.

My guess is that it is you who are the neophyte who has little recollection of recent events to make such a bizarre claim. It's your thread to show that events are on the rise. I have shown in countless other 2012 threads that these events are not on the rise.

It's your thread. It's your claim. Why don't you show us all where the recent events are abnormal.

Let's get rid of the earthquake claim first.

Is Recent Earthquake Activity Unusual? Scientists Say No.

Scientists say 2010 is not showing signs of unusually high earthquake activity. Since 1900, an average of 16 magnitude 7 or greater earthquakes — the size that seismologists define as major — have occurred worldwide each year. Some years have had as few as 6, as in 1986 and 1989, while 1943 had 32, with considerable variability from year to year.

Don't forget the 1976 quake in China that killed officially 250K and unofficially 750K.

reply to post by GeosAlien


This is just one issue that stands out more strongly as a hoax claim than the others. Right?

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by azzllin

 

Not all CC's are fake

CC are real artwork made by people. That's all they are. Those who claim they are not human made are as you say deluded.

Well, as I have remarked before, your statement on this, is your opinion that I respect but can't, as many with me, support. So, better drop this point as we will never reach consensus.

Let's look at volcanoes now:

How many active volcanoes are there in the world?

Erupting now: perhaps 20
Each year: 50-70
Each decade: about 160

Not seeing anything significant this year like a Krakatoa or Tambora sized eruption.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by GeosAlien

 

This is just one issue that stands out more strongly as a hoax claim than the others. Right?

You are not backing up any of your statements. I get the feeling you are just here to stir things up.;
On the quakes, may I refer you to the following web page: www.earth.webecs.co.uk...

you will see amongst others the following information:
DATES FROM & TO PERIOD NO. EARTHQUAKES (Mag. > 6.99)
--------------------------- ----------- ------------------------------
1863 to 1900 incl 38 yrs 12
1901 to 1938 incl 38 yrs 53
1939 to 1976 incl 38 yrs 71
1977 to 2014 incl * 38 yrs 156 (to Sept. 2010) predict >190 in total.

So, please save us from your bold statements, as you seem to know little about where you are talking about.

reply to post by GeosAlien


Do you have any evidence other than your wishful thinking that these are something other than man made?

The claim of broken vs bent stems is a laughable claim made by someone from a city with no access to walking through cereal fields.

The remainder of your argument is that more than 1 person fell for a hoax. Meaningless. Many people fell for Sitchin, Velikovsky, Ponzi and Bernie Madoff. Large number of people believing does not make anything more or less correct. It's the evidence that counts.

reply to post by GeosAlien


You are the one not backing up any of your claims.

Posting a link to that site is meaningless since the data neglects to mention a number of important issues.
1. There are many more seismograph stations today. That makes a huge difference in the amount of data collected.
2. Only some of larger quakes were identified from the data in the past. Even today only about 10% of the quakes are identified today.

Please know what you are looking at before you make the mistake of showing comparisons between apples and oranges. The fact of the matter is that there has been no increase in number of earthquakes.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by GeosAlien

 

Do you have any evidence other than your wishful thinking that these are something other than man made?

The claim of broken vs bent stems is a laughable claim made by someone from a city with no access to walking through cereal fields.

The remainder of your argument is that more than 1 person fell for a hoax. Meaningless. Many people fell for Sitchin, Velikovsky, Ponzi and Bernie Madoff. Large number of people believing does not make anything more or less correct. It's the evidence that counts.

As I said, drop it, as we won't come to an understanding other than, we don't agree here.

reply to post by GeosAlien

Those are not accurate counts of earthquake activity. Please see the description for the source used.

Selected earthquakes of general historic interest.

earthquake.usgs.gov...

It is not a complete list. Do you really believe that there were only 12 large earthquakes between 1863 and 1900? What about these ones?

FILE CREATED: Sun Sep 26 18:25:58 2010
Global Search Earthquakes= 74
Catalog Used: NOAA
Date Range: 1863 to 1900
Magnitude Range: 6.9 - 9.9
Data Selection: Significant Earthquakes World Wide (NOAA)

Source

reply to post by GeosAlien


So you have no evidence. You would have posted it had you any evidence. If it is just wishful thinking why don't you just state that?

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by GeosAlien

 

You are the one not backing up any of your claims.

Posting a link to that site is meaningless since the data neglects to mention a number of important issues.
1. There are many more seismograph stations today. That makes a huge difference in the amount of data collected.
2. Only some of larger quakes were identified from the data in the past. Even today only about 10% of the quakes are identified today.

Please know what you are looking at before you make the mistake of showing comparisons between apples and oranges. The fact of the matter is that there has been no increase in number of earthquakes.

You are a pre-occupied dude that have it bull # answers ready.
The fact is that there are a lot more of earth quakes than before. So, your statement vs. mine.
Have fun !!