not all muslims are evil stop being paranoid

all this islamophobia...its annoying.

the worry about islamics pressing their laws upon you shouldn't be high on your list. your going to get a few idiots that beleive that but alot of fools try to impose their laws and idea upon you and it never gets done. example american comunist,socialist,nazi groups.

before i continue let me give you a few words to live by when dealing with muslims. muslims are like cops. some good some bad. feel free to worry like hell when first meeting them anyways. its only natural to worry if one person out of a group is like the bad in that particular group. go to a city and try not being scared when you see a black man walk up to you wearing brightly colored rags asking you for the time. theres the idea of your going to get mugged but you wont know til you look at your watch or cell phone for the time.

if your worried about most islamic terrorists look where most of them come from and what paterns they share. they are from 3rd world countries where murder and violence is an everyday thing and the ones from first world countries tend to be people of low IQ easily influanced and brainwashed by people with the gift of a silk tounge.

muslims from first world countries are not like that. you raise a muslim to be sophisticated and educated you wind up with muslims like this guy.

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another thing that people tend to forget is that all religions eventually break down into sections with slighly diffrent beleifs. looks at the christians. penecostal,babtist,catholic. the list goes on. i myself was a catholic.

another thing is that after the quran was wrote you had a few people who claimed to be high powers in islam an wrote their own manuals on how to be a muslim. thats where you get many of your bad apples. that and tribalism. when you go out to to kill someone you get that man and only that man. not 10 of his buddies who have no idea whats going on. when declaring war you have to ask the people of the land if its ok. its goes on and on.

these bad apples whom i like to call the rowdies don't even fallow the rule. it would help if it wasnt power hungry warlords bullies only telling 1/3 the story then manipulating the rest. hell most of these guys cant even read. they break so many of the rules. you cant force someone to convert, suicide bombings are agaist the rules, killing inocents are agaist the rules.

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another thing is that the leaders of all these terrorist groups are power hungry bullies. they use force your suppose to be nice not forceful. they like power. they are no better than street gangs or drug cartels. they use propganda to spread their ideas. they declare jihad every chance they get. jihad means my struggle. then again so does mein kampf(hitlers book). they take young boys and pound propaganda into their young vulnerable heads. you only see that with radical organizations. the nazis are a perfect example of a first world one.

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also christians are to be respected. so long as you belleive in god it is fine. the god of the jews and christians is the same as the muslims. we just call god allah.

jesus is in the quran. so is his mother mary and his freinds that fallowed him up until the day he got the crap kicked out of him and nailed on the cross.

as a muslim i will be the first to say there are plenty of bad muslims. do you christians think you would never do that? what about the crusades(knights templar)? what about the branch davidians? what about the KU Klux Klan? arent those all christian organizations? havn't all of those organizations strayed from what the bible says?

here is the last thing.

I'm muslim. what you gonna do about it?

your worried about the islamization of the usa what are you going to do about it? what do you plan to do about it? you gonna work torwqards banning it? thats agaist the first amendment. you going to demonize the good muslims? didnt the nazis do that to the jews?

the message i'm trying to get across is this. there are bad everythings in the world. there are bad christians,bad muslims, bad jews, bad white people , bad arabs, bad blacks, bad asians. bad everythign. just as there are good everythings.

You don't understand, for some people (morons) they need fear. These people (idiots) have to have some fear in their lives or they can't cope.

These are the same people that freak out if a black family moves into their neighborhoods, it's these same people that freak out if someone speaks Spanish within earshot of them. They are paranoid and frightened of everything.

It is their base fear that they have given into long ago that comforts them. It makes them think that they are being "vigilant" when in reality, they are just being paranoid and bigoted.

I've always been saddened by how we refuse to see the sameness of the human race, but instead we focus intnetly in the differences and offer them up as reasons to kill another people's.

An yet, all people have a mother and father, most have children, most desire for a better life, most desire peace in their lifetimes for their children's sake. And we all dream, we all feel pain, we all feel Love, we all need support and understanding in our lives. All these things make us the same... and therefore Equal in my sight.

I've noticed the enforced divisions being made through the Media.. the main weapon against humanity it would seem.. and noted too how we are so easily led into Diversion and Division in order to maintain a Homogenised World View.. and at the same time have differing personal views of Faith, etc, which all account for Division in Humanity.

We fail to see that many of the differences between Cultures are wonderful things to share with the world, but no, we avoid that and seek out the more negative aspects of the minority and lay claim to all being as bad as each other.

How Sad for Humanity.

Originally posted by Tayesin
I've always been saddened by how we refuse to see the sameness of the human race, but instead we focus intnetly in the differences and offer them up as reasons to kill another people's.

An yet, all people have a mother and father, most have children, most desire for a better life, most desire peace in their lifetimes for their children's sake. And we all dream, we all feel pain, we all feel Love, we all need support and understanding in our lives. All these things make us the same... and therefore Equal in my sight.

I've noticed the enforced divisions being made through the Media.. the main weapon against humanity it would seem.. and noted too how we are so easily led into Diversion and Division in order to maintain a Homogenised World View.. and at the same time have differing personal views of Faith, etc, which all account for Division in Humanity.

We fail to see that many of the differences between Cultures are wonderful things to share with the world, but no, we avoid that and seek out the more negative aspects of the minority and lay claim to all being as bad as each other.

How Sad for Humanity.

my mother said she respected people of all colors and races was because we all bleed red.

every culture has somethign to offer as well as somethign to be ignored. mutual understandings between people is what should occur rather than becoming paranoid and simply being scared #tless of whatever it is you do not understand

reply to post by X9ballX

I have been to both Jordan and Malaysia where there is a demarcation between religion and government both are modern progessive cultures with good people and respectable human rights for women etc so I definately agree not all muslims are evil,the problems occur when the religious leaders get undue power but this is not just muslims there has not been a positive theocracy in the history of this planet,nor will there ever be one.

Originally posted by anglodemonicmatrix
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I have been to both Jordan and Malaysia where there is a demarcation between religion and government both are modern progessive cultures with good people and respectable human rights for women etc so I definately agree not all muslims are evil,the problems occur when the religious leaders get undue power but this is not just muslims there has not been a positive theocracy in the history of this planet,nor will there ever be one.

like i said before. within everything there is good and bad.

no religion is perfect. no group is perfect.

The mosque leaders recruit the most gullable of their flock.

It is unfortunate that Muslims have been singled out to be the new boogeyman in western society. When communist Russia fell TPTB were left with a bit of a problem... Decades of brainwashing and control based fearmongering gone straight down the drain. Without a go-to "bad guy" military budgets were slashed, politicians lost an important part of their rhetorical arsenal, the economy in the private sector began to thrive, and the citizens began asking questions about the system and its leaders without the fear of being labeled a traitor.

Somebody just had to do something about all of that mess.

Now we have a new boogeyman. An ancient enemy of the west from the good old days of the crusades. Making him wasn't hard to do at all.

Iran hostage crisis, a few periods of outrageous gas prices blamed (rightfully or wrongly) upon OPEC, a cultural sympathy for Israel, and a handful of plane hijackings and bombings of airplanes and embassies around the world... and the fear was ripe for exploitation.

All that was required was a huge event to catalyze the population. An event that happened about nine years ago.

Now the status quo is back. A huge military industrial and intelligence complex is in force. Liberties are directly threatened and under attack - leaving many Americans afraid to speak out about what they feel is right. An evaporating middle class. And a cottage industry of hate that has given us an entire network of people who get paid to do nothing but fear and hate monger.

Oh, and our politicians are back in control. They've regained their positions of absolute power over us.

Personally I've already learned to look past our present boogeyman. Islam doesn't threaten me. But I do wonder who the next boogeyman will be, once America realizes that sharia law is not at our doorstep and that our Muslim friends just want the same thing we do - to live a comfortable and decent life.

Jihad has 2 interpretations. First is "Holy War against the Infidels" dating back to the 4th century CE. Second is "spiritual struggle from within" or whatever, dating back to the ratification of the US Bill of Rights. There are no evil muslims, just evil interpretations of the Quran.

Originally posted by quantum_flux
The mosque leaders recruit the most gullable of their flock.

what about those who convert because they actually read the book

[Skeptics Annotated Quran ; skepticsannotatedbible.com...] - Read and enjoy.

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NO MUSLIM IS EVIL. OTHERWISE THEY WOULDNT BE MUSLIMS.

I WATCHED A PROGRAM ON TV CALLED GAY MUSLIMS?? THEN THEY ARE NOT MUSLIMS!!

COMPLETE CONTRADICTION

I am sick and tired of the growing number of radical anti-Muslim threads.
No, I am not defending any Theocratic system, it is just that this whole thing reminds me of Hitler's propaganda against the Jews.

Yes, there were many Jewish persons in the twenties and thirties that were into active terrorism in Europe, many on the Communist side. True. Also, some of the customs of Orthodox Jews could have been as strange to the non-Jewish Germans of the day as those of orthodox Muslims to non-Muslim Westerners. But look where the whole thing led to. The Holocaust.

A similar effort is orchestrated today by the neo-conservatives of the West, and therefore there is a danger of Fascism upon us.

Millions HAVE already been killed and poisoned - depleted uranium etc. is not much better than the camps...

Back in those times it was "those dirty, medieval Jews immigrating from Poland and Russia". Now it is "those dirty, medieval Muslims immigrating from Pakistan, Palestine etc."

One of these world faiths is not better or worse than the others. Period. Anyone that argues to the contrary fails to notice the white elephant in the middle of the living room: neo-conservative propaganda (which, depsite its name, is a dictatorial outgrowth, and has nothing to do with genuine conserving of Western values.)

These days any time I open ATS, there are a couple of new threads on this topic.

Ever heard the term SHADOW PROJECTION?

That is how Jung described the collective madness of Nazism.

Looks like ATS is getting deliberately targeted by some freaks that want to spread mainstream neofascist propaganda...

I agree with the OP, but I would be less apologetic: the title and essence of this thread - translated to the language of the thirties in Germany - would be as follows:

Hey, Mensch, not all Jews are evil, not all of us hoard money secretly and corrupt nice white Aryan girls...

Of course this would be inadmissible today.

But only because Hitler was defeated. The Western neocons have not yet been defeated. When they are, and when they will give an account of their crimes against humanity, including the 911 terrorist act that they smeared upon Muslims the same way Hitler tried to smear the burning of the German Parliament, the Reichstag upon "Communist Jews", there will be a new Nuremberg.

Hopefully there will be "neocon hunters" in the following decades and a Muslim Anti-Defamation League.

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