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Originally posted by pteridine
Trying to affix blame for the US slave trade on ship owners is not logical. The customers drive the demand, the tribes sell their captives to the dealers, the dealers sell the captives to the ship owners, the captain sells the captives to the landowners, the landowners have the slaves produce valuable products and make profit because the cost of labor is low. If one person has slaves, all have to have slaves or go bankrupt.
"Money is the root of all evil."
Originally posted by the2ofusr1
Hi Wcitzen . I hear your mode ... This rabbit hole is so deep and dark .Its ATS and its members that can take pride in finding this stuff and passing it along to one another. It may end up being a slow and frustrating process but to turn on that 100th monkey will make it all worth it .
the us and britan are implicated in Who was Behind the Rwandan Genocide? The Rwandan Patriotic Front's Bloody Record and the History of UN Cover-Ups www.globalresearch.ca...
snipt...A third, no doubt more decisive factor is that the Kagame dictatorship is a client of the United States and "acts as a mercenary for U.S. interests in Africa," as Glen Ford observes; the current conflict between this dictatorship and the UN "threatens to reveal the United States' role as enabler in the deaths of as many as six million people while Washington's allies occupied and looted the eastern regions of the Democratic Republic of Congo."5 It is Washington's ties to Kagame' RPF, ultimately, as well as London's and Brussels', that public discussions of the draft UN report should turn the spotlight on.
Originally posted by Drunkenshrew
Today Jews as a group often get a free pass. No one wants to offend them. Jewish crimes are hidden and Jewish reputation is shielded from tarnishment by most of the media and parts of the academic world. Today's Jews are not responsible for crimes and misdoings committed by their ancestors. But how are we supposed to learn from history, if history is rewritten, sometimes even when it is happening? How are we supposed to learn from history, if we believe in myths and fiction, instead of truth?
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In addition to African slaves, Europeans, mostly Irish,[12] Scottish,[13] English, and Germans,[14] were brought over in substantial numbers as indentured servants, sometimes referred to as "white slaves".[15] Indentured servants, sometimes shipped as punishment by local parishes, were particularly common in the British Thirteen Colonies.[16] Historians estimate that more than half of all white immigrants to the English colonies of North America during the 17th and 18th centuries were indentured servants.[17]
www.africanaonline.com...
During the first two-thirds of the 17th century Holland and Portugal had dominated the African slave trade and the number of Africans available to English colonists was limited. During the late 17th and 18th centuries, by contrast, naval superiority gave England a dominant position in the slave trade, and English traders (some of whom lived in English America) transported millions of Africans across the Atlantic.The transatlantic slave trade produced one of the largest forced migrations in history. From the early 16th century to the mid-19th century, between 10 and 11 million Africans were torn from their homes, herded onto ships where they were sometimes so tightly packed that they could barely move, and deposited in a strange new land. (Since others died in transit, Africa’s loss of population was greater still.)
Originally posted by Drunkenshrew
I agree with most what you said, but regarding myths, I have a different position. According to Joseph John Campbell myths often have a sociological function. They support and validate a certain social order. Myths support the establishment. To doubt a myth, is therefore a danger to the establishment. Any opposition to such a myth is fought tooth and nail. I believe some myths are dangerous and must be opposed.
Originally posted by Drunkenshrew
This darker history is no reason to be ashamed of. But people become guilty, when they try to censor history. Here is a link to the Amazon reviews for the book the Secret Relationships between Blacks and Jews. I found the reviews very telling. It looked to me like an attempt of censorship. Censorship is something which I find repugnant. Therefore I decided to order it. But living in Germany, I was somehow unable to do so. The reviewers who wrote negative reviews, sounded exactly like these wannabe-Wiki-editors and their approach to history:
Originally posted by Drunkenshrew
A dominant Jewish role in the trans-Atlantic slave trade would tarnish the Jewish victim-myth.
Originally posted by Drunkenshrew
The victim-myth is used to justify an unjust agenda. Zionists use the Jewish victim-status to advance their political goals. Goals, which are from a humanitarian perspective intolerable in the 21th century. Palestinians are driven from their homes. Their land and heritage is stolen. They are suffering far more, than the Israelis. Nonetheless it are the Palestinians who are mostly characterized as the aggressors. Israeli Jews are characterized as the victims. It cannot be otherwise, because the myth must be true.
Originally posted by Drunkenshrew
The myth also is used to silence any critic. Critic against Jewish organisations is equated with vile baseless anti-Semitism. Authors like Mearsheimer and Walt who wrote the Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign policy faced vitriolic attacks for pointing out, that Zionists have great influence in U.S.-foreign policy. Meanwhile Zionists like Perle, Feith and Wurmser were allowed to work for both the Netanyahu government and the Bush-administration. Dual-Nationals of no other nation are allowed to do that. They used their position to disseminate lies and steal secrets. They used their position to warmonger against Israels enemies. Instead of being dealt like traitors, they are still honoured by a subservient media.
Originally posted by Drunkenshrew
Zionistic journalists like Bill Kristol could lie us into wars. Hundreds of thousands were killed and they didn't even apologize for their “political motivated errors”. Compare this to the forced resignation of senior journalist Helen Thomas for an off the record remark. Zionistic are still using the victim-myth as excuse for their warmongering. Iran could be next. Ahmadinejad is already vilified as the next Hitler.
Originally posted by Drunkenshrew
Religious myths are responsible for millions of murders, but today I believe the Jewish-victim-myth could be more dangerous.