The Government Can Use GPS to Track Your Moves

reply to post by airspoon


I'm an avid fur trapper....it is very legal to set traps and let them stay set, to keep the trigger mech from fowling and let rust naturally camo your traps....not baited of course....just stategecally placed...

I leave them hanging from the rafters"just below shoulder high"all year until Nov...the start of season..
I use smaller traps..biggest I use is 6" conibears...but will darn sure make your hand >>not work...no more

or a good size capacitor, like the one I used to train my neighbors dog ...not to pee on my expensive wheels..using a bit of tinfoil and a 2 wires with aligator clips on them...
foil on ground in front off tire..one lead to wheel, one lead to foil...

now when his dog pees, it does not raise its leg no more...

Conversely, we can use GPS to track the government as well. But the question is why would we want to. and converse to that question is why would the government want to track an individual? Probably for a good reason. This technology is nothing new and it doesn't bother me, as I am a law abiding citizen.

Reply to post by Aggie Man

That's not the point. The worst thing I've ever done was go ten miles over the speed limit. I was pulled over, given a ticket, and went on my merry way. I have nothing to hide. I still do not want or agree to being tracked by gps by anyone, whether they are the government, law enforcement, or crazy Bob on the corner without a warrant. How many of our rights can they violate before people finally say enough is enough?


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Originally posted by Jenna
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That's not the point. The worst thing I've ever done was go ten miles over the speed limit. I was pulled over, given a ticket, and went on my merry way. I have nothing to hide. I still do not want or agree to being tracked by gps by anyone, whether they are the government, law enforcement, or crazy Bob on the corner without a warrant. How many of our rights can they violate before people finally say enough is enough?

 

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Do you seriously believe that they would track the average joe just for the heck of it? If they are tracking you, they probably have good cause, you know....like you are a suspect in an investigation. I still have no problem with it. I doubt the FBI will be "sneaking on to my property" to place a GPS tracking device on my vehicle. That would be an incredible waste of resources and time.

You know there are currently 125 million vehicles on the roadways of the US. Are they going to track them all? How many vehicles will be assigned per agent?

But hey, to each their own....if you all want to be paranoid...more power to you.

[edit on 25-8-2010 by Aggie Man]

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that way when you are forced to evac to a camp, they can see
how much progress y'all are making.
or when the barbwire goes up around your gated community
nobody is out of place.
or when you are to report for compulsory civilian service they
can get in touch with you.
if you call me paranoid, i would say you are naive,or in denial.

Reply to post by Aggie Man

Somehow my entire post got eaten between my phone and the boards.. Weird.. I'll try to recreate it.

Did you read the article? This is something a court has ruled on, not something I made up out of nowhere. Have you so quickly forgotten the illegal wiretapping that the Bush administration did in the name of homeland security? Have you forgotten the list of people that the Department of Homeland Security have decided are potentially dangerous? We pretty much all qualify, with few exceptions.

Our government has consistently shown they cannot stay within the boundaries they set for themselves. You honestly believe that this won't be abused? It must be nice to live in your world where the government never does anything bad and only do what's best for us.


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The DEA was tracking a suspect for manufacturing marijuana and while it doesn't make this right, they were tracking a suspect although marijuana seems so old school in todays world.

I don't believe that the general population should have anything to worry about unless you give the authorities any reason to focus in on you.

Maybe this could be the cure for anyone wanting to evade the law.

Jamming GPS Tracking Devices

or this

GPS jamming device

There are, however, legal issues in possessing these devices and they are outlawed in Great Britain.

Originally posted by Aggie Man

Originally posted by Jenna
Reply to post by Aggie Man

 

That's not the point. The worst thing I've ever done was go ten miles over the speed limit. I was pulled over, given a ticket, and went on my merry way. I have nothing to hide. I still do not want or agree to being tracked by gps by anyone, whether they are the government, law enforcement, or crazy Bob on the corner without a warrant. How many of our rights can they violate before people finally say enough is enough?

 

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Do you seriously believe that they would track the average joe just for the heck of it? If they are tracking you, they probably have good cause, you know....like you are a suspect in an investigation. I still have no problem with it. I doubt the FBI will be "sneaking on to my property" to place a GPS tracking device on my vehicle. That would be an incredible waste of resources and time.

You know there are currently 125 million vehicles on the roadways of the US. Are they going to track them all? How many vehicles will be assigned per agent?

But hey, to each their own....if you all want to be paranoid...more power to you.

[edit on 25-8-2010 by Aggie Man]

There's that whole thing of getting a warrant and establishing probable cause. Seriously? You don't see a problem with this? And what's going to happen when they start writing laws that you don't know about? The whole "I abide by the law, I have nothing to worry about" is a VERY slippery slope.

[edit on 25-8-2010 by justinsweatt]

Reply to post by Intelearthling

That was the case being decided on, yes. But the ruling sets a precedent for all future cases heard in the same jurisdictional area, and can be used as an argument for cases heard in other jurisdictions. The judges didn't specify that it only applies to suspected drug dealers either. Their decision can be applied in general to anyone who ends up getting their car tagged in their driveway.


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I tend to look at the cup as half full here. If somebody is inclined to slap a whizzy, high tech, expensive trinket on my vehicle then obviously it is a gift and is now mine. It also lets me know that I am indeed under surveillance and what type of resources those surveilling me have. That's good intel. I can also take the device to a remote location and see who shows up. That is excellent intel. What fun!!

Originally posted by Jenna


What in the heck are they thinking? I got chills reading this article and now I'm just getting angry. They have no right to stick GPS tags on our cars when those cars are sitting in our private driveways without a warrant.

Fortunately other courts have ruled differently, but this sets a very, very bad precedent for future cases heard before this court. The article states, and I agree, that this will likely end up before the Supreme Court eventually. I just hope they have the brains required to overturn this ruling.

this is a joke right???????? you do know and realize most people have a GPS already in their cars and the ones whom don't goes out and buys one to put in there.....not too mention your cell phone.......most people have volunteer to tell the government where they are at all times........WAKE UP!!!!!!

Reply to post by Shar

Owning a gps device does not give the government permission to track your whereabouts anymore than owning a cell phone gives them permission to tape all your phone calls.


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It's been my understanding in recent years that most (if not all) newer vehicles automatically have tracking devices that come factory installed. Uncommon knowledge. All you need is a license plate # and it can be activated when the need arises. If you're a bonded and licensed PI... LE... or gov't agent... they ALL have access. Not much you can do about it either.

[edit on 25/8/2010 by Hedera Helix]

Reply to post by Hedera Helix

Again, owning a gps device does not give the government permission to track your whereabouts. A warrant is typically required. This ruling eliminates the requirement for a warrant meaning they can track you for the heck of it not just because you're a suspect. That is what the issue is here. Already owning a gps device is irrelevant.

I'm honestly amazed that here, of all places on the internet, people have no problems with the government being given free reign to add their own gps device to your car and track you for any reason without a warrant in your own driveway no less. Really and truly amazed.


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[edit on 25-8-2010 by hillbilly4rent]

reply to post by Jenna


This is been happening for quite a while and with cars using on start the government doesn't really need to put anything in the newest models.

Company cars also are tagged and so rentals.

Originally posted by Jenna
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Owning a gps device does not give the government permission to track your whereabouts anymore than owning a cell phone gives them permission to tape all your phone calls.

 

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don't matter they will anyways if they chose we the people need to WAKE UP and realize this......

Reply to post by Shar

So we should just ignore when judges give them permission because it's going to happen anyway?


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reply to post by Jenna


Why bother with that?

They can already track your location via triangulation of your cell phone signal, and even listen to you any time they want. (even when your phone is off)