The devastating effects of Corexit on the human body

reply to post by rufusthestuntbum


Dear Rufus:

According to Dr. Pincetich, the marine biologist featured in the article you provided for us (good article, thanks for that) Corexit does indeed evaporate and return as condensation:

"Pincetich specifically cautioned that no matter how carefully Corexit is sprayed, the chemicals will always drift inland, or simply evaporate and return in condensation."

reply to post by justadood


You state that Corexit evaporates and enters the ground water, but do not think that evaporated Corexit might end up in rain. I do not follow. For evaporated anything to mix with water would seem to mean that the water would also have to be in mixed with air, ie, rain. Either evaporation happens or it does not. And once a chemical is disolved in surface water, it will be picked up and distibuted locally. Just like bicycles and unbrellas.

reply to post by SimplyGord


erm, no at 147c evaporation rate, I don't personally think it does enter as rain, but DO think that it enters groundwater through tidal systems.

reply to post by new_here


Is that the case? I scanned over his article tbh as an example of it effects on cellular level. If that IS the case then OMG the effects will be much, much worse! I'm so glad I'm not in the southern USA right now either way!

reply to post by SimplyGord


And yes going back to your point that anything mixed with water will evaporate with it, in the case of saltwater, you can evaporate the water, and this leaves behind salt, so it's not necessarily the case.

reply to post by rufusthestuntbum


I do not down play the dangers of Corexit and oil in drinking water. I had not realized until this Gulf 'spill' started that there exists a huge limestone aquifer under Florida which supplies much of the drinking water. It is said that Gulf water is cleansed as it passes through this natural filter. Sad to think of this being polluted.
As an off-thread aside on water pollution: Alberta, Canada is reporting fish changing gender in several rivers. Males are becoming female with no explanation except hormones in the water, possibly from birth control and estrogen products. They also worry about effects on humans.

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Originally posted by SimplyGord
reply to post by rufusthestuntbum

 

I do not down play the dangers of Corexit and oil in drinking water. I had not realized until this Gulf 'spill' started that there exists a huge limestone aquifer under Florida which supplies much of the drinking water. It is said that Gulf water is cleansed as it passes through this natural filter. Sad to think of this being polluted.
As an off-thread aside on water pollution: Alberta, Canada is reporting fish changing gender in several rivers. Males are becoming female with no explanation except hormones in the water, possibly from birth control and estrogen products. They also worry about effects on humans.

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No, I know you don't, the effects really are that terrible.
I can only pray for you Americans at this moment, this as absolutely awful.
In terms of gender reversal, this has been blamed on many chemicals, it would be hard to pinpoint to be honest, but yes it is SOMETHING synthetic, who knows, again?

Here's a scary article to back the dangers of Corexit. It's getting into the food chain already:

www.fox8live.com...

I completely agree that corexit is terribly toxic to the human body and I think we might have best evacuated the whole immediate Gulf areas as soon as the oil started to roll in because they've been infusing the leakage with Corexit starting at the wellhead. It's also been reported by several local folks that they're spraying it from the air still, but that they're doing it at night to cover the act. Don't have a link to that handy and I'm sorry about that, but you should be able to find it by googling corexit and aerial spraying.

Thanks for the post. People have got to be educated on this.

reply to post by ghostpigeon


They are WHAT?!?!?! Spraying it from the air???!!!!?? That is absolutely ruthless what the hell are they playing at?

you might want to check out Samantha Joye on Gooogle; she has a number of pieces from press conferences there, but this is her on MSNBC talking about why don't we see oil in June and she lays a lot of that on that the dispersants at the wellhead source:
www.youtube.com...

There have been several million gallons of dispersants infused into the oil at the point it's being expelled and millions more from aerial spraying, etc. People tend to believe there's not as much oil as there is because BP has used this so prolifically and won't admit that it's only because it hides the oil, not because it does a thing to make it easier to clean up or safer when it hits the shore.

Wow,

Thank you Rufus, it means so much to know that you are thinking of so many! Excellent Post, why this company is not up on charges against Humanity is beyond me (I am referring to the makers of this ungodly concoction).

As I was reading I could not help but think of this scene in X-Men:





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reply to post by rufusthestuntbum


Agreed! This is so reminiscent of Agent Orange, which is my main touchpoint with aerial spraying that it makes me sick.

Here's a list of Corexit ingredients from Nalco itself, of course played down because it's PR to make it appear less harmful, but I'll get more on the effects.
www.nalco.com...

here's some pics from the first 50 days, a couple of the daytime spraying and several that show the way Corexit breaks up oil in the water, but doesn't get rid of it.

www.aladding.com...

and a link to more ingredients and effects:

waronyou.com...

The first post on this site talks about aerial spraying and has a link to the examiner for more, as well as some of the night aerial spraying stuff. The end of the first post appears to be a piece of a Dahr Jamail interview on Democracy now. He has spent the last several weeks on the Gulf Coast and has a number of excellent articles on Truthout: if you do a search for his name you can find them.

www.oldelmtree.com...

Originally posted by SimplyGord
reply to post by justadood

 

You state that Corexit evaporates and enters the ground water, but do not think that evaporated Corexit might end up in rain.I do not follow.

I did. Where? I think you may have misread me. If it enters the ground water, it hasnt evaporated. Evaporated means liquid is vaporized. If it is vaporized it is no longer in an underground aquifer, is it?

For evaporated anything to mix with water would seem to mean that the water would also have to be in mixed with air, ie, rain. Either evaporation happens or it does not. And once a chemical is disolved in surface water, it will be picked up and distibuted locally. Just like bicycles and unbrellas.

My point about bicycles and umbrellas was in response to someone who seemed to think that fish and frogs evaporate, which is a phenomenon i am unaware of.

reply to post by Greensage


I can't say I've ever seen the X-Men films TBH
What i was thinking is the Chimera virus in Mission Impossible 2 but suprise, surprise, you can't find this on YouTube

Basically it's a cellular de-generation virus. Obviously corexit isn't a virus, but would IMO exhibit similar properties given the potential for cellular-level de-generation.

reply to post by ghostpigeon


Mr Pigeon...
You get a star for your input!

These are seriously great sources, thank you!

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Booo! I opened this thread hoping to find a Youtube embed showing the BP execs getting a bath in the stuff. Instead I find knowledge and facts. Booooooo!

p.s.: In all seriousness, thanks for a great thread.

Originally posted by Adevoc Satanae
I saw someone giving an interview about this on MSNBC the other day and I cannot believe it is not getting more attention. Aside from fear mongery hyperbole, the simple facts of what this chemical does is scary as hell as it is.

S + F for laying it out.

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So, now, after the damage is done, and the media helped to ignore the stuff when it was being dumped hand over fist to sweep the oil under the rug, they come out and spell doom about the stuff.

Typical, really. Sort of like where was glen beck when FOX, and all other members of the unified corporate news network,were smothering Ron Paul?

I guess that since the msm is saying 'where's the oil?' they are really saying here's the core-effit, and here's what it will do.... It makes it look like they're on your side, after the damage is done..set in motion.

reply to post by rufusthestuntbum


Couple questions. What exactly is corexit? Why is it made? It sounds like soap on steroids.

Second question, and this one may be more on topic. What is the half life of corexit. how quickly does it break down?

i may be wrong, but doesnt this work like dish washing detergent? and i know it doesnt seem to mess with the lipid layer of cells on our skin to much.

Obviously, I dont know much about this, so any info would be helpful!

Originally posted by rufusthestuntbum
reply to post by SimplyGord

 

erm, no at 147c evaporation rate, I don't personally think it does enter as rain, but DO think that it enters groundwater through tidal systems.

that is what I suspect as well, but it would appear no one seems to really know for sure one way or the other?

OK, corexit is designed to break down any potential oil slicks by allowing the oil to mix with water, this is facilitated by turning the hydrophobic tails of the oil molecules inwards allowing it to bond with water molecules.

On the other hand isn't soap actually composed of lipids?

I don't know the half-life to be honest!

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