Police brutality in China

(Reuters) - Plainclothes police severely beat the wife of a provincial official, mistaking her for one of many Chinese who petition government offices in the hope of redressing wrongs, the China Daily reported on Wednesday.

Police brutality in China

I'm suprised this even was reported in China. This brutality just shows how "normal" Chinese citizens are treated if they disagree with the government. China is such a beautiful country, but it has many problems, from the laws governing how many children you have to the laws regarding what the people of China can access on the internet. I hope this incident will have some effect on the provincial official's stance on certain issues, although I doubt it will.



[edit on 7/25/2010 by SUICIDEHK45]

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There are many important facts to note from that incident.

For one, I do sympathize with that woman. But at the same time, in a way I'm a little glad it happened (Sorry- but bear with me) because it exposes so much that needs to be aired.

It reminds me of that incident in the southern US where police pulled over a black man. They beat him, called him the N word, and I believe attempted to plant drugs on him. Oops! He turned out to be the son of a very well known attorney or politician (something along those lines). The cops then had hell to pay and it highlighted exactly what goes on.

Second, I notice in the article concerning the Chinese incident the guards apologized profusely for their action and stated they didn't know she was an official's wife and that they only go after 'the little people' who try to address their government.

WTF? The last paragraph asks the right question: So it's OK to beat citizens appealing to their government but it's a mistake when you go after the wrong higher-up individual.

So it's an unfortunate event and I feel for the woman- especially after reading what all they did to her. But the fact remains this happens every day over there but has been kept on the down low... until a person of importance is a victim.

They never acknowledged that the general act of beating citizens is wrong- just that their error laid in going after the wrong person.

"This incident is a total misunderstanding," the Communist Party chief of the district bureau explained, according the newspaper. "Our police officers never realized that they beat the wife of a senior leader."

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I wonder if anything will happen to the police that beat this woman. Will they suddenly dissapear?

I would like to know more about the story of the African American beaten in the south. If you find out any more info or links please let me know.

Does China use CS-spray, battons and mad dogs to bite people and when a copper kills someone by shooting them in the head , nine times do they walk free and can they kill people like Ian Tomlinson and get away with murder.

I don't think China has much on the UK and two weeks ago we had an execution style killing in the USA and the judge was perfectly happy to go along with the copper that said he thought he had tazer gun in his hand when he accidently shot someone on the ground

Does China realy have much on the USA.

yes i've seen the UK police inciting trouble so they can get more overtime next week and see them for the facist ba$tards they are and the IPCC is the bigest waste of public money going.

I find that absolutely disgusting but at least they're honest about it.

In the West we just beat up protestors. No media coverage, nothing.

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"from the laws governing how many children you have"

Like it or not we have got to move in that direction it's simple maths realy.

"to the laws regarding what the people of China can access on the internet."

A lot of this is about the likes of Google and Skype spying on people in China but swallow it if you like.

Local officals in China live with the people and are the first to be held to account by the people which is a million miles away from what we have in the UK and USA.

i'm not saying they are much better than we are but it's hard to be much worse and i think your average russian now has more freedom than we in the west enjoy.

Time to do some house cleaning at home before looking abroad if you ask me.

In the West we just beat up protestors. No media coverage, nothing.

Our main stream zionist controlled press is becoming less and less important and are now having to play catch up with the internet but it will never win whilst we have 40 millions unpaid truth seekers and they have 20,000 lazy journalists to pay and this is why they will move to take over the internet.

Google 'Holly Greig' to see how bad things have become in the UK and then go and buy a newspaper and tell me it's the news your reading.

1 million new people in the UK know about this story and it will reach critical mass but in the mean time thats 1m people that have turned away from trusting the media or goverment.

Realy i don't think things can be much worse in China do you.



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Very true, I don't think that the U.S. is "better" than China. I just thought this was an interesting story. TPTB are up to some extremely shady stuff, and have been for years.

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i was not having a pop at you in anyway just trying to wake people up to whats happening at home.

The justice system in china is much better than ours that takes millions of pounds just to take the likes of Ian huckley to court with all the lawyers, judges making a fortune and then it costs us £1m a year to keep him saftly tooked away so the screws can make a nice living.

Would had taken less than a day to sort out in China even if they make the odd mistake now and then.

our justice system is rotton to the core and you can get away with murder if your rich or work for the police.

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Yet the story was told, ask yourself why?
There you should find out the answers you want or need.
But seriously in China it is ok to beat the populace, they have submitted long ago even though they outnumber their masters greatly.
They have left the duty of freeing themselves to their children or grandchildren for what? not getting bruised up?

China is working on changing .. But its a large country and change doesnt happen overnight.. Yes sadly in some areas things like this do happen .. Show me one country that doesnt have corrupt officials and similar incidents.. It happens even in your western countries.. Also dont underestimate the chinese people.. Throughout their history there have been times where the people were abused.. But after a point they will fight back and restore justice for the people.. unlike the west they value harmony in asia and violence only disrupts harmony thus its avoided until necessary.. and change can also occur without violence just takes longer to achieve..
Think the chinese are on the right path with gradually changing over from a communist state to a free state rather than a sudden violent change that would cause worse hardship on the chinese people and senseless loss of life.. Ironic china is becoming free while in the west governments are oppressing their people more with each passing day..

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Does China realy have much on the USA.

Yes. For instance, many things that are a source of outrage and even a violation of our rights in the West are COMPLETELY LEGAL AND ACCEPTABLE in China.

Not saying that we are 100% clean. We have a lot of problems. But often times, something that would be legally wrong to us would be legally protected over there.

On a side note, it is always fascinating to me how topics like this always get deflected on to how the 'US is just as bad.'

Really, it baffles me because collectively we have millions of posts discussing our discontent with the way things are done here and THOUSANDS of threads about the 'bad cop/politician' story de jour.

Please don't take our EQUAL concern for police brutality or a police state as something that comes and goes or that is only a problem if it's 'the other guys.' Wrong is wrong. The only ones I ever see making an issue out of other countries are the ones that say 'What about The West?' when there are countless threads and posts of us being angry about that, too.

Interesting article, and it does pose some interesting insights - both positive and negative.

As the OP suggests though, I think the very fact it is being reported and discussed in the Chinese media is great. It is certainly not the first time people have become irrate from the behaviour of police, nor will it be the last - but it is not exactly something that is endemic to China, nor is it really prevalent as such.

These police will be punished, rightly so. But on the other side, they were guarding a political building, as they do in every country - and as in every country - their job is to to stop people without appointments, demonstrators, and people wanting to storm the building. I have a feeling there may be another side to the story too, given the air of attitude some people linked to power have in China, and she may have just tried to waltz in without explanation (why should she need to give explanation to those considered beneath her, when her husband has more power than the police), and got a bit toey when subdued. Her explanations probably came too late, with screams, anger and tears...who knows. But I refuse to believe a wife of a high official would be beaten for no reason if she was polite, went in and explained she was the wife of so and so. If there was any question to her story, a quick phone call would have solved everything.

I bet she waltzed in with an air of arrogance and explained nothing, resisted someone putting her hand on her to stop her etc. This could well happen in just about any country with senior pollys. Hell, you'd probably get shot in some countries if you tried to storm senior political headquarters.

Anyway, as expat888 says, China is definitely changing - the police are fine, and to attract any attention you seriously have to be doing something wrong. Corruption is still a problem at local levels, but they are really working on it - officially they have the death penalty for excepting bribes for as little as RMB100k (or about $15k), though that's just on paper and would unlikely to ever happen.

I'd be way more concerned at all the fast emerging police-state rules and regulations in some western countries over this particular incident anyway.

Originally posted by SUICIDEHK45
I'm suprised this even was reported in China.

Me too actually, I had to even look up "China Daily" in case it was a paper outside the mainland, but according to Wikipedia it

is regarded as the English-language mouthpiece for the government and is often used as a guide to official policy.

and the owner is listed as "Communist Party of China"

Perhaps they feel the population are so subdued that this will only act as a deterrent to other potential petitioners, and not cause any serious backlash from the population.

en.wikipedia.org...