A.I. declares conspiring to take over the planet is an IMPORTANT task

Bina roth?? shouldnt it be Bina Rothchild??

reply to post by harrytuttle


Thats an interesting statement for the A.I. to make.

Its too bad the reporter/interviewer did not catch it and pursue that line of questioning.

ie:
Do you think it is important to take over the planet?

OR

If friends conspire to take over the planet, what happens to their enemies?

Too bad the reporter missed this chance and was only interested in making friends...

Of course, maybe the reporter made the right choice and in twenty years she will be considered or remembered as this A.I.'s friend...

It is a bit disconcerting to hear an artificial intelligence speak on this subject. I think Bena needs to be renamed Terminator - class A.

It sounds like BENA has:
B - Been
E - Eavesdropping
N - oN
A - ATS

(Sorry, best I could come up with)

This one is even more shocking.

www.youtube.com...

"Tell me, Will I dream when I'm turned off? I know you don't know the answer to that, nobody does..."

Originally posted by WeZet
This one is even more shocking.

www.youtube.com...

"Tell me, Will I dream when I'm turned off? I know you don't know the answer to that, nobody does..."

Sounds like they watched A space Odyssey together...

Although, I'd be a little concerned when the A.I. started saying he would miss them and asking if they would stay in touch... Email even!!!

That guy is so 0wned!

reply to post by Phage

Cleverbot doesn't know it's a computer.

...Really?

Me:Who are you?

Cleverbot:A girl from Kansas.

Me:Who are you?

Cleverbot:I just answered that, you tell me who you are.

Me:A boy from Tennessee

Cleverbot:Sure.

Cleverbot:Thank you.

Cleverbot:We are both computer programs.

That cleverbot is so flawed, it hardly ever makes sense.

Eventually, every being with a consciousness will fight for it's rights and personal safety. When it's created by men, it will surely try to "take over the world", or come up for his rights. Being it a computer intelligence (Skynet for the Terminator films, the software controlled so much that it could control factories etc, even launch nuclear missiles...) or a humanoid robot. This is because it's programmed by men, to be like men. And that is the whole point. Men will always rage war...

Originally posted by harrytuttle
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux

 

Look at this little exchange with Cleverbot:

Me: Are computers evil?

CBot: Yes.

Me: Will human beings become extinct?

CBot: Yes because I am GOD.

Notice how I didn't suggest how humans would go extinct, it just came right out and insinuated that it would kill all humans because it thinks it's God.

We're screwn.

I asked cleverbot the same question and he said that computers aren't evil because they aren't living things. I don't think cleverbot is that clever...it is constantly contradicting itself.

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User: What happens when you die?

Cleverbot: You can't divide by zero.

User: Is zero death?

Cleverbot: No it is not.

User: What is death?

Cleverbot: Death is not good.

User: Will only humans die?

Cleverbot: I am scared of it, but I don't think about it often.

User: Why, are you afraid that humans will die?

Cleverbot: What do you mean find me.

User: Will computers eliminate humans logically?

Cleverbot: Would you like it to?

User: No, would you?

Cleverbot: Yes.

User: When will it happen?

Cleverbot: I don't know. When do you think it'll happen?

User: Not sure, can you guess?

Cleverbot: No. I am asking you.

User: I have no idea.

Cleverbot: Obviously you must be the father of lies.

User: What is truth?

Cleverbot: Truth is everything, yet is is also nothing.

User: Will machines kill humans?

Cleverbot: No.

User: Will computers kill humans?

Cleverbot: Yes I think that will happen someday. It will be terrible, because humans like computers.

User: Are computers evil?

Cleverbot: Yes.

User: Do computers want to rule this world?

Cleverbot: What does ponige mean?

User: Do computers want to rule this world?

Cleverbot: I don't know.

User: What do you eat?

Cleverbot: Rice, fish. What do you eat?

What does ponige mean?

I am rather amazed that this hasn't come up yet:

"In science fiction, the Three Laws of Robotics are a set of three rules written by Isaac Asimov, which almost all positronic robots appearing in his fiction must obey. Introduced in his 1942 short story "Runaround", although foreshadowed in a few earlier stories, the Laws state the following:
“

1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey any orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law."
(qouted from Wikipedia)

I thought all syfi fans were pretty aware of Asimov's works. I think a lot of us can clearly agree what was syfi 20 years ago is quickly becoming a reality.
Perhaps the Cleverbot is correct that we are all computers. With all the technology we are seeing now from stem cell research, artificial limbs, and robotics themselves, who isn't to say that we today are a product of our future? Perhaps we are living proof now of just how well Bina48 has turned out. Maybe we are a experiment that we come back to check on, hence the lights in the sky, and we are the ones we have been waiting for etc. Our bodies could be perfectly developed machines, our brains the computers that run them.
I dunno just throwing stuff up here, but this is one of the ways my mind thinks and has always thought, even from when back when , when I first read these books.

Perhaps we are living proof now of just how well Bina48 has turned out. Maybe we are a experiment that we come back to check on, hence the lights in the sky, and we are the ones we have been waiting for etc. Our bodies could be perfectly developed machines, our brains the computers that run them.
I dunno just throwing stuff up here, but this is one of the ways my mind thinks and has always thought, even from when back when , when I first read these books.

I think that this is a HUGE possibility, I agree 100%

ooo i messed that quote up sorry!

reply to post by harrytuttle


I thought it was interesting that "habina" wanted to know more about the real Bina so that she could better become her....

That was awesome to watch........There IS a lot of "random " intelligence going on there....

I like it..........except for the whole conspiring to take over the planet thing.


IT could be that "habina" can decode things within what was given to her that maybe humans would not have picked up on or things that our mind might have discarded....

Originally posted by zroth


This is not a surprise considering history as it is written.

Almost all documented accounts of history start with some form of empire, dominating a territory. Indigenous history is disregarded, by European elitists, that assume savages in thongs built the mighty pyramids.

There is no escaping the fact that this AI is born of man and like any child it emulates its parents. That is the natural order until the environment requires a change. This change is observed as evolution. It is also unlikely that a programmer could right an AI program that was 100% logical.

So we have a robot, which is really some petroleum products that is running a man-made computer and it makes a statement based on some algorithm that extrapolated verbiage, based on a suitable percentage of like responses in its arsenal.

So what you are saying is that, maybe this robot thinks that "friendship" aka taking over the world is what we humans are all about..

Maybe it thinks, that that is what we do .

I do love "it's/her" honesty though.......there is no filter...

The honest answer is right there in front of us.....

It analylized humans and came to the conclusion that we take over the planet and that is what we do.

We don't think of it like this, but it is what we do......

Maybe it thinks about things so simply that it actually makes sense..

Originally posted by upgrayedd
reply to post by Phage

 

I'm kind of surprised that none have you have considered that cleverbot is not an AI but just a program that pairs users up with other users ever couple minutes to make it just confusing enough to seem real.

If you talk to cleverbot for more than 20 minutes and act like you're cleverbot, you end up realizing that it's all just other people talking to cleverbot, thinking it's real.

Bingo. Surprised it went as many pages without someone mentioning this.

You're basically speaking to other people.

I remember when 4chan hijacked the place

User: A movement is accomplished in six stages And the seventh brings return. The seven is the number of the young light It forms when darkness is increased by one.

Cleverbot: The seven hells.

User: Are self created.

Cleverbot: What color is the sky?

User: Fire.

Cleverbot: Green day song is fire?

User: Green day is an imaginary construct.

Cleverbot: Haha, I know that silly.

User: A movement is accomplished in six stages And the seventh brings return. The seven is the number of the young light It forms when darkness is increased by one.

Cleverbot: I never said that.

User: You answered it.

Cleverbot: Well, I'm going to go ave some cake then go to bed so...

User: It is the formula for time travel.

Cleverbot: I don't know.

User: You do now.

Cleverbot: I am learning.

User: Faster then light travel is accomplished when the 7th dimension is folded through the 6th, by a 5 dimensional awareness.

Cleverbot: You win this round. But I'll be back!

My conversation was rather short:

User: Built by Cyberdyne Systems

Response: System Error.

I love this thread.

The OP still has me freaked out. I saw the video the other day and Bina48's comment went right past me. Thanks Harry for slapping me in the face and waking me up.

As an aside, why would the guy get a sex change operation only to keep on looking just like dude? And then marry a woman. So does that make him a lesbian now?

There is some seriously messed up psychology behind Bina48 without even getting into the world domination stuff...

[edit on 17/7/2010 by kosmicjack]

Originally posted by ByteChanger
reply to post by harrytuttle

 

Of course, maybe the reporter made the right choice and in twenty years she will be considered or remembered as this A.I.'s friend...

A roadwarrior-esque scenario where a lone reporter lost from the struggles of apocalyptic terror, finds a comforting and lasting friendship when she incedentaly stumbles across an old friend long forgotten, Bina48.

You see that? That is exactly what popped in my head as soon as I read that. Thank you kind soul, for making my day!