The Secret Space Program

The Secret Space Program

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Some important compelling information on the SECRET SPACE PROGRAM.
Gary McKinnon now faces extradition to the US “within days” (Computer Weekly, 13 October).

As many of you know, Project Camelot has been working behind the scenes to assist Gary with the case to prevent his extradition to the United States. Unfortunately, our efforts have not been successful — mainly due to Gary’s choice to follow the advice of those handling his legal battle in the UK.

Understandably, Janis (Gary’s mother) and Gary have chosen not to use what we feel is their key strength in this battle to fi

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Important info on the secret space prog. Many dollars are spent on the program, and the americans dont even know about it.
Gary McKinnon now faces extradition to the US “within days” (Computer Weekly, 13 October).

As many of you know, Project Camelot has been working behind the scenes to assist Gary with the case to prevent his extradition to the United States. Unfortunately, our efforts have not been successful — mainly due to Gary’s choice to follow the advice of those handling his legal battle in the UK.

Understandably, Janis (Gary’s mother) and Gary have chosen not to use what we feel is their key strength in this battle to fight extradition and have instead chosen to concentrate on emphasizing more mundane aspects of the case such as his apparent lack of sophistication during the initial arrest where he frankly stated his guilt and then in the choice to use his recent diagnosis of Asperger’s Syndrome (an autistic condition) as a line of defense.

Whereas this condition may have contributed to his actions once he had been apprehended by the authorities, the real case is far more significant. As we have stated in the past on this blog, Gary McKinnon in his politically motivated hacking of Pentagon and NASA computers discovered important information regarding the existence of a secret space program which included fleet-to-fleet transfers of personnel, and what appears to be an off-planet astronaut corps.

This information has been independently confirmed by Dan Burisch and Marci McDowell, among others: Richard Hoagland, Linda Howe and Jim Marrs are just three respected researchers who have been investigating this crucial area.



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if a hacker has access to some interesting stuff he would definitly save it. gary did not. why? that makes no sense at all. I'm sorry.

furthermore I think Burish, Hoagland, Howe are frauds. they would confirm anything that fits in their beliefs.

There has to be some type of secret space program , the question is just how advanced are they , what kind of missions do they run and what is there operations directive ?

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there has to be a secret space program? how can you say that?

it sounds exciting and we wish there was something like that.

I really think, that we are all kinda crazy because we always wish something really bad will happen or someting really crazy...cause then we would know that we were right.

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By the term Secret Space I am referring to top secret military operations in space , thanks for the opportunity for me to clarify .

Double post

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Here is one link for you
news.cnet.com...

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thanks. i know about that.

of course you are talking about rational stuff.

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Not to sure if I call military operations in space " rational stuff "

But yes of course the military conducts operation in space and these operations would by there very nature be secret .

Just how advanced is this military arm and what operations do they run , I don't know

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Butlincat2.....

You might find Zorgon's thread interesting:

Navy Space Command Uncovered

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

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Originally posted by Rohdan
if a hacker has access to some interesting stuff he would definitly save it. gary did not. why? that makes no sense at all. I'm sorry.

furthermore I think Burish, Hoagland, Howe are frauds. they would confirm anything that fits in their beliefs.

I get the inpression from interviews he did it using a 12k modem (could have been slightly faster) and the pictures just 'streamed' to his computer in an unsavable fashion. I do think he saved a list of non-terrestrial agents though, whatever that means.

I get the impression this Camelot quote is implying Gary is stupid for listening to his lawyers over them. Hmmm, I know who I'd listen to.

I saw a long interview with Gary himself and he said he used a regular dial-up telephone modem. He said he was waiting for pictures to load that were hundreds of megabytes, so he barely got to see anything. It also sounded like he used a remote desktop style application and was thus unable to interact with elements of the computer he had accessed at NASA. If that's really the case I don't understand why the size of the picture would matter, since the only information when using a remote desktop app is the screen buffer. One would also think he'd be able to take screen shots. This a simple keypress on Macs, and I would assume there is an equivalent in Windows.
I do personally find Gary to be sincere, and there was a strong inference in the video interview that there was more classified information that he did not want to discuss for obvious reasons, as there is suggestion that the reason for the harshness of the prosecution against him is based not on what he has claimed to have seen, but on what they think or know he has seen but not come public about.

Originally posted by Rohdan
if a hacker has access to some interesting stuff he would definitly save it. gary did not. why? that makes no sense at all. I'm sorry.

furthermore I think Burish, Hoagland, Howe are frauds. they would confirm anything that fits in their beliefs.

Well you havent done much research, have you? Loads of things these people say have turned out to be accurate. And by research i dont mean 20 hrs / week or wotever...i mean proper research..like books, talking to the characters, watching documentaries, asking others opinions, checking if + where theyve gone wrong, + loads more...ive done all this for years and i will say these guys are very accurate and have proved themselves time after time to be spot on.
You didnt mention Project Camelot either. Youre slipping.

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There has to be a secret space program, you'd be stupid to believe there isnt one. If you imagine the first people to travel oceans, when they returned the interest didn't stop. The interest was raised due to the fantastic stories they would of told, space, i would imagine is the same. We've been going there for almost 50 years and i bet the amount of recorded space travel is double what we know about. Wether it be for military reasons or scientific, there has to be more thats gone on up there.

This is my first post, I have been coming on and reading for a while and thought what the hell today

My first reaction to this story is that this man was lying; but, after I have read over what I can and thought about what I have read, it is all entirely plausibe. If he does have asperger's then he may not even think about saving regartdless of if he could.

An old friend of mine has asperger', and one of the main symptoms is obsessiveness, and lack of social cue recognition. What would seem perfectly normal to most hackers wouldn't neccessarily cross his mind, and just completing the task at hand ( i.e. hacking and learnign the info) would be what he throws himself into.

I know this because my friend (when he was very young) was obsessed with a girl to the point of stalking her, without ever thinking it was odd. Nowadays he puts his focus almost entirely into fishing.

Back majorly on topic, this hacker guy could very well have forced out some private information that the US gov. has to ratify in order just to not look like idiots. I myself wonder if any of these 'space secrets' may relate to the Gulf (advanced sppy satallites/satallite weapons etc.), especially this 'Insurance' file on the Afghan page of wikileaks.com.





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There is one on Windows my cousin always uses it.

Originally posted by Rohdan
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there has to be a secret space program? how can you say that?

it sounds exciting and we wish there was something like that.

I really think, that we are all kinda crazy because we always wish something really bad will happen or something really crazy...cause then we would know that we were right.

Oh for goodness sake! The military has always had its own ability to both launch and control satellites and much more. Ever hear of "Corona"? The first American space probe, (our Sputnik if you will), was called "Explorer 1," and it was "famous" for detecting the Van Allen radiation belts around the Earth. Bull cookies, though it may and likely did discover the Van B's, but it was developed with extreme urgency after Powers shoot-down indicated we needed a much better way to peek into Russian, (and Chinese, etc) windows. Hear about "Aurora"? "Son of SR-71" thats not supposed to exist, It may not in this case but something like it certainly does. Call it Spirit of Aurora, what ever. And lets not forget military communications, spy sats of all kinds, VELA sats to spot the rocket bloom of an ICBM, we have the seriously BIG satellites of all descriptions like Kh-11's and sons, etc. And by the way, don't forget Vandenberg Air Force Base CA. On the coast, very nice location. Great ocean view. I'm just depressed we don't have much of a civilian space program anymore. Google some names I mentioned, if your interested. A lot of this stuff is not even secret! Hello... Don't mean to be rude, but my sarcastic gene kicks in when the obvious is not taken into consideration. Well, have a good one...