Paul the Octopus is really Cthulhuh!

I am actually not so sure about this, but I would like to give the chances of that being true a consideration.

Paul is an octopus, a cephalopod mollusk. By his looks he might be a young adult, his gender is probably influenced by the water temperature in his tank.
He is trained to pick flags out of boxes, diagnosing sports events. And he has an astonishing rate of success. Now people say, he could be a psychic, and everybody takes it as a joke, but..

There is not really much known about cephalopods at all They live in depth, were even BP has not dared to drill so far, because the environment is so completely alien, so its hard to observe them in their natural habitat. Keeping them in zoos is difficult, because they die, when their life gets boring. They simply commit suicide by eating their own limbs.

They seem to be able to communicate among each other in a pretty bewildering manner by signaling through behavior, skin pigmentation and manipulation of their own ink and other bodily functions.
Assessing the intelligence of any non-human being is always a tricky thing, because intelligence is a concept, that is modelled so heavily after the human species. No, I dont believe, that cephalopods will ever build spacespips.

Now the first thing, that anybody thinks about, if cephalopods are mentioned are tentacles. And that is because of a Mister HP Lovecraft.
According to Ray Bradburys biography, HP. Lovecraft was a strange guy, that grew up pretty isolated with his mother and his aunt and never left home, almost until the day he died of bad digestion in his fourties.
He spent his childhood buried in a library and his adult life writing endless letters to people, he hardly knew, and occassionally went to a writers convention. The first blogger, a century before the internet intervented Al Gore.
H.P. Lovecraft was a staunch agnostic and loved horror storys. Now all the usual gothic stories are really strange christian or pre-christian european moralistic tales.
Tales to scare peasant farmers into donating their tithe and be humble. Something, which did not tickle HPs narcism. He decided to come up with a new way to scare people. Scares that were not derived from judeo-christian tradition. He dreamed of a more primal fear.
He actually started collecting and wrote long lists of things, that might be scary to people, and that did not involve souls. No resurrection without a doctor around anymore, bloodsucking just to get to liquids, not to souls, brains stolen instead of souls. Technically he was never a great stylist, but his fervor attracted followers, who kept talking about him, and in a way he became the father of modern Horror movies.
The greatest asset of his writing is the Cthulhuh mythos. A complete pantheon of HP.s pure imagination, without any trace of human aspects or emotions in the "Deities" in question. Cthulhuh himself is.. A Cephalopod.

What if HP Lovecraft stumbled upon a real hidden bid of truth in the zoological and austronautical tomes he spent his childhood with. The sleeping ctulhuh might be a reference to a giant matrix of sentient thoughts, to which humans are usually not admitted. Because its scary for human minds, drives them crazy and isolationist inside their own race.
If Cephalopods were able to communicate with each other and found human psychics in their chatter, they would probably just scare them away. Because until lately no cephalopod had any real reasons to talk with humans.

What could scary tentacle-beings do to start an intelligent conversation with the human race, say about deepwater drilling or something. Wouldnt Paul be the perfect solution to send a message? Hey, we are here, we would like to talk with you. Yes we are actually more intelligent then you are, which scares you as hell, but we are even willing to predict your stupid soccer scores, just to prove we arent hostile.... That and bad dreams. Like a world-wide depression? The age of Aquarius might have tentacles

[edit on 6-7-2010 by XenoStuffz]

dude that was way cool

im not really sure how feel about it, but great piece nonetheless.

Nice, but I can't refrain from posting that Cthulu is not a cephalopod. It is a crossing btween a cephalopod, a dragon-ish thingy and a human being, albeit a large one.

Well, HP Lovecraft was never very explicit in his description. A "mixture between cephalopod, dragon and human" could easily be a cephalopod the size of a dragon with human intelligence. And if you watch videos of cephalopods, they sometimes look like they are winged, when they move through water. And the curiosity and intensity, with which they use their tentacles to manipulate and investigate stuff, sure adds something human, to their appearance.

Now, Germany just lost against Spain, which prolongues Paul's series to six out of six predictions about the World Cup right. I wonder how many right predictions in a row are needed, unless someone seriously starts investigating, wether there is something unusual going on.

I thought I heard Paul say, "Cthulhu fhtagn, Cthulhu fhtagn!" in my mind.

Damn psychic cephalopods! Always messin' with my head jelly!

So um wait , we now have a psychic parrot and a psychic octopus predicting sport events ?

On another note , OP since You are interested in the cthulhuh mythos , read up on the Bloop signal that has been caught by US sonar stations some time ago
en.wikipedia.org...

The funny thing about that is , the supposed location where it originated from, is/was an almost dead match with the location of cthulhuh and his underwater city as described by HP

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You think, that sound:

oceanexplorer.noaa.gov...

from summer 1997 might have been C'thulhu calling? I am atm googling about how long the sound could be heard, I think the NOAA recording is just a fragment.

Paul wasnt born before 2008, so the bloop can't be adressed to his very manifestation. Maybe the bloop was the foretelling of Pauls birth to prepare the cephalopod community for a new aeon?



Or just a mere function of the sleepers digestion tract?



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Well I do not think the bloop has anything to do with Paul , but it did strike me as odd that the supposed location of the bloop was an almost exact hit with the cthulhuh location

I mean H.P wrote the book quiet a while ago, I guess he could have picked a location at random , but what are the odds that a sonar noise gets picked up that if identified as a living creature would be gigantic , just so happens to originate at almost the exact location where years before some author put a "fictional" gigantic aquatic living ancient-squid-type creature ?

Well an octopus is very intelligent. I have seen videos of them changing color and texture to mimic a rock with coral. I have seen them use objects like tools. I have seen a video of one who had learned to walk around with two coconut halves. If attacked, this octopus would pull the two halves together with itself inside. The tenticles were so strong that it would be very hard for most creatures to pry the coconut open to get to the octopus.
I have seen videos of octopus learning to get to a piece of food inside a jar or in a hard to reach place.

I think these creatures are very smart and we don't know exactly the limits of what they think. Maybe they think with pictures in their minds. When I try to remember what it was like as a very young child, I remember feeling a lot of emotion. I knew if I was sad or happy. If I wanted something I remember looking at it and imaginging how to get it. It is hard to remember a time when I didn't think with words "I am going to push that chair over and climb up and get that." But I if I try, I can kind of imagine what it was like. Instead of thinking "I am going to stack some things up until I can reach that." I would instead just kind of see myself doing that, or there was just this sudden awareness that it would work. It was thinking without words. It was a sort of knowing. And once I learned to do something, I remembered it.

I think that is how it is with the octopus. They may learn a new trick by experimentation with how their bodies move objects around. Then later they just know from experience that it is going to work.

So the octopus might not think "I am going to use all my tenticles to open this jar. I have to twist the cap part to the left to get it open." But it just kind of experiments first and then later it just knows. So when it goes to do that again, it may remember or it may see pictures in it's mind.

I don't think it has words for things like a human. But I think it does have a way of transmitting information to another creature. Some skin colors may mean it is scared or feels threatened, or it is content, or it is ready to fight, or it is aroused.
And one octopus may watch another in motion and maybe it will see a new trick that it will mimic.
The other octopus may not be actively trying to teach a new trick, but we can never tell what it is thinking. Maybe they do have a way to show each other new things, or maybe it just happens if they mimic each other.

If there were a way to teach the concept of a written language or symbolism to an octopus, maybe there would be a way they could communicate more with us or each other. It seems like it might be possible for them to at least associate some symbols with a food reward.
If there were a way to teach them new concepts with symbols, maybe they could learn to spell something out for us.

I thought, this thread was dead, but I almost missed the genius of the Iranian president.

Here is the best link I found about Ahmadinejad joining the sentiment of the OP. Its a bit lengthy, but it gives the background and the original source of the hype, the german newspaper BILD

enduringamerica.com...

..... I agree,

Cthulhu has risen from the depth's of hell to once again enslave mankind and drive us into a milenium of darkness and despair.

He has come under the guise of a psychic octopus, .. in order to instill himself in the hearts and mind of the people, gaining acceptance, support, and the love of his followers.

After he predicts a major catastrophe he will be hailed as a savior, and commence his strategic plan to rise among the masses untill he is voted in as supreme dictator, changin the world for the better as he slowly slither's his tentacles into every aspect of the system, and our lives, ....

Untill he becomes unstoppable, breeding whordes of octopi super soldiers, enslaving manking to do his evil biddings.

Cthulhu must be stopped !!!!!!!

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If i tell you i've been walking around with the exact same idea in my head recently?
And it's not by accident i don't think, this concept of paul the octopus was really made into a big deal.
Read this the other day too. An excellent look into similar ideas.

gosporn.blogspot.com...

Cthulu myth has always scared me DEEP inside, which is funny because i'm not a horror fan, it just seemed real somehow. Even if you want to call it a Jungian archetype, it certainly resonates with a lot of people.

“Recently in the World Championship [football's World Cup] you saw that those who proclaim to have reached the peaks of history wanted to manipulate people’s minds through superstition, an octopus, fortune-telling and such things.”
President Ahmadinejad

Arguably one of the most powerful men in the world. And however silly it may sound, he's right. 100%.

About the psychic aspects? We know humans can do it, how do we know who or what they actually get hold of sometimes?

Intastella burst ... with what i'm seeing of human behaviour lately, that's frighteningly possible

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Sorry, that I did not read your post so long. Its great. But the funny thing about octopus, is they have several brains per individuum. I wonder if those brains actually argue with each other about things?