the development of chinese tank( lots of pictures)

T-90 can fire a 9K119M/9M119M Refleks-M ATGW System that can destroy any modern MBT at range of 5000m so i wouldn't be so confident about abrams.

the Abrams fire capability is the same if not better than that so I would be to comfortable with the T-90 also the Abrams has more advanced technologies in it.

even the french Leclerc tank is better than the Abrams especially the electronics so why not the chinese tanks

and westpoint,the abrams has proven in combat against old T55's,T72's and APC's not against major MBT such as the Leclerc or T90 or those chinese tanks

[edit on 26-6-2004 by DarkSide]

no the French tank is not better than the Abrams just trust me on this cmon its the French tank Vs. the Abrams I think we all know the outcome judging on history.








West Point
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[edit on 27-6-2004 by WestPoint23]

The main armament of an Abrams tank is the 120mm M256 smoothbore gun, developed by Rheinmetall GmbH of Germany and it's range is 3000m , which is 2000m short of a russian refleks missile that can be fired from a T-90. So please west point if you talk about performance and better technology do be specific because talking sheet will get you nowhere. Ofcourse abrams is a very good tank, but by far the best because there are numbers of just as good or better tanks out there. So be more objective and look at the facts !

People forget the British tank: Challenger 2

Crew: 4
Weight: 62,500 kg
Width: 3.5m
Length Gun Forward: 11.55m
Hull Length: 8.3m
Height to Turret Roof: 2.49m
Ground Clearance: 0.5m
Maximum Road Speed: 59 kph
Average cross-country speed: 40 kph
Engine: 1200 bhp Perkins-Condor CV12 (i think it's changed)
Main armament: 1 x 120mm L30 CHARM Gun
Ammunition Carried: Typically 50 rounds (sometimes more or less, depends)
Secondary armament: Co-axial 7.62mm chain gun;
Ammunition Carried: 4000 rounds 7.62mm


[edit on 27-6-2004 by UK Wizard]

Originally posted by skylight

Originally posted by KrazyIvan
just more kill marks for the M1A2.

so far as i know, T90 can kill M1A2 at a distance of 2000m. but not vice versa

You really need to get a grip here. The t-90 is a hopped up version of the t-72 MBT. The Abrams will be getting kills day or night on the move with a proven armor and fire controll system and superbly trained crews. With the the T-90 you get 3 decade old Russian design (The t-72 faired nicely in DSI and II, NOT) with Chinas reputation for quality controll.

Originally posted by DarkSide
even the french Leclerc tank is better than the Abrams especially the electronics so why not the chinese tanks

First off, Is it true that the LeClerc tank is faster in reverse than drive?
Seriously though, the LeClerc is lighter, slower, and has an autoloader that is simply not a fast as ahuman one. The Abrams is not without its faults, but it simply is the finest MBT produced and will remain so for quite some timeas it seems the day of the heavy MBT may be over. TO see how the Army learned about the Abrams see the following link below

www.fas.org...