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And, you say that it is "magnetically messing with our sun as well". Could you tell me in what way the sun is feeling the effect of a rogue planet? The unusually long solar minimum of this cycle perhaps?
I just have to ask you this, just to sum up your belief a bit..
You are serious when you say that this planet only shows itself for those who believe in it, yes? Does that mean that only those who believe in it will feel the effects of it when it decides to drop by in our neighbourhood?
3. And finally, I have a question to you about this whole doomsday. You seem rather sure that we will all die in 2012, so I have a proposal to you. Would you be interrested in signing over all your belongings to me (straight forward, huh?)?
After 2012 you won't need them anyway, so why not ease the materialistic burden a bit now, and sign over all your stuff to me (as a sign of your beliefs)
I happen to work as a lawyer, and would happily set up the necessary paperwork. So, are you in?
I can leave this releaseform unsigned so that anyone that know for a certain that we are going to die in 2012 can take part of it, and again, ease their material burden=)
Originally posted by Marabella22
Thats funny I heard about this planet on a different website, Why isn't it all over the news then. Wouldn't a new planet be really big news and all over the internet how does anyone know that its out there? And what do you think is the purpose of this planet. How will it affect earth?
Originally posted by awakentired
reply to post by Antoniastar
Another possibility of the stresses appearing so much recently is post-glacial rebound. Same stresses just a different cause.
The wiki is a decent source. Many in a web search.
en.wikipedia.org...
Recently, the term post-glacial rebound is gradually being replaced by the term glacial isostatic adjustment. This is in recognition that the response of the Earth to glacial loading and unloading is not limited to the upward rebound movement, but also involves downward land movement, horizontal crustal motion,[1][2] changes in global sea levels,[3] the Earth's gravity field,[4] induced earthquakes [5] and changes in the rotational motion. [6]
Peace
And you don't suppose WISE would have picked up on it's infrared signature, do you? And for the record, Yowusa is as far from peer-review as you could possibly get. So I ask you once again, can you show me any CREDIBLE source that supports your theory? A single peer-review journal that supports your claims would be nice. By the way, do you even know how light bends?
I would dare to say that you have gotten nowhere at all in your "research", other than managed to mix up all kinds of woo woo-stuff (I mean seriously, I asked for peer-review and you come dragging with Yowusa?)
Then why do you claim that it is visible in the two suns photos? You do know that everything that has a surface reflects light, do you?
I see, this part explains it all to me. You are a conspiracy theorist huh? So, they would try to silence you because you know to much? That is actually hilarious, since you don't know even elementary astronomy I really don't think that "they" see you as a treat=)
Yet again, peer-review on this would be nice. What substantial increase in earthquakes? As far as I know, one of the most seismically active years was 1995. Did Planet X cause that too? Supply any kind of evidence, but don't come dragging with (a) viewzone or (b) Mandeville. They have been proven wrong on so many points that their claims more or less resembles a swiss cheese now.
Yes, actually something that resembles a source (even if the original work would be nice). This article was written in 1983, and since then the orbits have been recalculated and fixed. You know, there is quite a significant difference between the search for Planet X, and Nibiru. The search for Planet X has been underway since late 1800, and resulted in the discovery of Pluto (and Sedna, and Eris, and Haumea, and Makemake, you see where I'm going with this?). Whilst Nibiru is the result of poor translation.
Originally posted by Antoniastar
Originally posted by Marabella22
Thats funny I heard about this planet on a different website, Why isn't it all over the news then. Wouldn't a new planet be really big news and all over the internet how does anyone know that its out there? And what do you think is the purpose of this planet. How will it affect earth?
Hi Marabella22,
What if a brown dwarf is responsible for "the end times"? Now this particular B.D. is NOT old enough to qualify for "The Death Star" or "Nemesis" (now known as "Tyche"), a "hypothetical" star. But it's in the news a lot, albeit the "official story" is to see how planets form and all that kind of stuff. And that is likely what is really going on. However, what if there's another brown dwarf but much older that is "in the news" for reasons other than or besides what is reported?
Discovery Of Smallest Known Brown Dwarf Announced
This is a dwarf that was first imaged in the year 2000 (I'm pretty sure, I'll have to recheck that). It is one of the hottest dwarfs discussed today. Just keyword search "TWA 5B; 2010" in Google and you'll see what I mean.
TWA 5B is in "the southern constellation Hydra" and was found by the European Southern Observatory...
www.eso.org...
Here's a recent article about a bunch of new-found brown dwarfs...
NASA 'elated' after new telescope uncovers 'previously invisible space objects'
I don't think the Death Star is going to cause a pole shift on Earth but there will be catastrophic consequences and we're seeing the signs of that nowadays.
Toni
[edit on 20-7-2010 by Antoniastar]
~Yes Planet X is mostly invisible to the naked eye because it doesn't reflect much light and it's surrounded by a dust cloud.~
Whats more interesting is whats to say that its trajectory is still the same after 3600 years? Are we assuming that it has had no inerferance from othe celestial bodies?
Originally posted by ribaldmalarky
reply to post by Antoniastar
Keep in mind that NASA has already admitted non-disclosure contracts & censorship of the W.I.S.E. data - supposedly so the researches are sure they aren't publishing wrong data.
It's a lame lie - NASA (and even SETI) have stated many times that any / all data and evidence proving existence of ET life, earthbound objects (asteroids, comets, Nibiru), and anything else they decide might"concern" the public will be classified secret and thus never released.
Please see to it that you do, I look forward to the rest of the answers=)
That he believed would be sometime around 2084 initially, remember that?
You still haven't answered this: Do you believe that we are all going to die in 2012? That question shouldn't be to hard to answe at least.
This was the funniest bit of it all actually. You do remember that it was you that said that the magnetic pull were affecting the sun, do you? Even so, in what way can you see the gravitational pull from a earth*4 sized planet manifest itself on the sun?
It would be REALLY nice if you could support at least one or two of your claims with some actual evidence. Or should I just take your word for it?
Okay, I will try harder to stay focused. Thank you.
My dear God woman, what exactly did you prove with that? Try adressing the questions at hand instead of jumping around like a crazy person.
Well maybe. In hindsight my ignorance is turning out to be helpful in way because it's all a part of the elimination process of getting to the truth. So, yes, I have to say yes, it is a smart thing to do. How else is a novice like me going to learn what is crap and what's not crap?
By the way, was it really all that smart to use those exact articles in order to support your claims? I've actually taken the time to read through these several times (these articles are not in any way news).
Nowhere. "A major possibility"? I hope that Nemesis DOES NOT exist. I want to make sure that it doesn't, for my sake and my family and friends too.
Just to make it simple, where in any of those articles does anyone claim to have found Nemesis/Nibiru/Planet X? All I've seen is speculation and qualified guessings. On top of that, both articles say that there is a major possibilty that Nemesis doesn't even exist.
No it sure doesn't.
Both articles places the proposed object a long, long way from earth, but that doesn't affect your beliefs, right?
Okay geez!!! Can you please be just a little patient? Are you the prosecution or the defense? How can you win a case if you don't control your yourself? You must be a prosecuting attorney. :/
since I didn't get through to you the first, or second time, I'll simply try again. Could you please show me evidence of (a) this planets existence and (b) the way it affects us? And again, in what way can you see it's interaction with the sun? And where are your credible sources that indicates a rise in seismic activity?
That makes two of us.
I would appreciate this, since then we could have something concrete to discuss (not just your beliefs). Please?
Yes and no. Yes if we're talking about your Nibiru and no if we're talking about my Nibiru.
Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Antoniastar
Hmmm. This seems like a long winded way of saying you have no evidence of Nibiru and that its all a joke.
I can't remember where I got the idea because it was from multiple sources. I didn't make it up. You're correct, that wouldn't be "so clever", I agree. Yes, you would think that W.I.S.E. would have already picked up on an object that appears to look like a "second sun".
A planet surrounded by a dust cloud? Really? Where did you get this idea? I get it that's an excuse for the lack of reflection. You made this up to cover for the fact that such an object would be visible on whole sky surveys. Not so clever. Dust clouds in our solar system do reflect light. Also, WISE would have picked the object up by now. Can you explain how this object evaded both WISE and IRAS?
How do you know? You have no idea how many times my life has been on the brink of death in 48 years. Your counter claim is unfounded in fact.
Yet another claim you make that makes your position unbelievable.
Nice wordplay "strike". Was that sarcastic interplay or did you mean to imply or possibly indirectly strengthen a cockamamie idea to heap fuel upon the Nibiru fire? Just curious.
Since none of these is increasing That makes another strike against you.
Um, No. I didn't "purposely" make that quote "obscure". I am merely trying to get to the truth, whatever that may be.
Isn't this a quote from the the 1980s which you have purposely made obscure? Yes.