Time runs out for 1.2 million on unemployment

reply to post by Libertygal


I agree Libertygal. People should read this link to really understand what unemployment insurance is all about.

Ten Costly Myths About Unemployment Insurance
www.associatedcontent.com...

Myth #1: I'm going to get something out of unemployment insurance because I paid into it.Truth: Unemployment insurance is paid for primarily through employers' contributions. You, as an employee, do not pay into any unemployment compensation fund directly.

Myth #2: Unemployment insurance will stay in place until I get a job.Truth: Unemployment insurance is just that -- insurance. It works just like life insurance, auto insurance, and medical insurance, in that there is a maximum payout and you must meet certain conditions to file a claim. In other words, once you have used up your unemployment benefit, you will not receive more money unless you return to work for a period of time and then are laid off again. This is similar to auto insurance -- when you are in an accident, your insurance company pays for the eligible amount (the cost of the damage to your car or your medical bills) and nothing more. If your accident costs more than your insured amount, you pay the remainder.

reply to post by tothetenthpower


Anyone with a degree or significant employment history in higher paying positions are shunned by these lower wage opportunities from employers.....the employer simply believes the will leave (probably true) at the first opppotunity to work within a position more applicable to their past experience/salary history....

Some older folks unemployed now cannot for medical reasons be on their feet all day which many of these jobs require....

So while your position does have short term merit for some umemployed it isn't that simple of an acute solution.

In fact, I tell anyone that sits in front of a computer all day that their job can be outsourced to India at a sixth the cost of their employment via a secured VPN connection............

That would threaten most white collar jobs in this country..........

Globalism is a race the bottom within externalized corporate labor and human resource costs that will ulitimately enslave all workers at serf standard living conditions......

reply to post by ofhumandescent
Ya know,.. that pic of the kid on the table ?,.. is an unfortunate problem the many in countries like where the child is from. However That is so rare here in the US. The countries that allow it, have no infrastructure to support their people in the first place. And the woman getting pregnant are like stray animals doing it in nature.The difference is animals have a coded survival instinct.The woman have no Idea of the consequence that will follow after birth and then the child suffers. I personally see no connection to the unemployment situation here in the states.



[edit on 1-7-2010 by Lil Drummerboy]

To all of you saying "well just relocate and get a job somewhere else." Just settle for minimum wage, work at McDonalds etc.

Just remember that thousands of illegal aliens flood in daily with no end in sight. And they will work for 2-3 dollars/hr. They are already mobile, so they can almost instantly relocate to where there is work. And they work physically hard labor in the hot sun, or dirty nasty conditions because they are used to it. I respect them for that. But for US citizens with home mortgages, medical bills, kids to feed, clothe and send to college (lol): We can't just pick up and live like illegals. They stack 15-25 people in a dweliing and are fine with it. They are used to these conditions where they came from. Conditions here are undoubtedly better than the 3rd world countries they came from.

Economics: Supply and demand. The illegals artificially lower the base wages for almost all postions, except highly degreed and very technical; outsourcing and excessive work visas take care of those.

SO welcome to scrapping out a 3rd world living, the new American dream. All thanks to our unprotected borders and useless politicians.

reply to post by Illusionsaregrander


So what is your answer? How long do we support these people, when our president is actively seeking to destroy our economy.

People do not understand about working at a low pay vs high pay. When you have kids to feed and have to pay morgage. so many selfish people on this board and they act like they are in the shoes of others. No respect or complete understanding at all. Some people have 2 degrees use to get paid 30$ an hour and can not find # now a days. SIngle parents etc etc.

You make me sick

reply to post by Night Star

I got a lump in my throat reading your story - it made me glad that I continued to read the thread when I was ready to give up on the debate. I think anyone who reads your post will have compassion for you and the many other Americans that have a very similar story. I feel for the people who want a job, but can't find one. I am fortunate enough that I am back in the position I was laid off from in 2008. I spent all of 2009 on unemployment - looking for a job. I can't even tell you how many resumes I sent out. I went on 3 interviews in a year. My local grocery store wouldn't hire me because I'm sure they looked at my application and thought I was overqualified for anything they had to offer. I think a lot of people have the same thing happening to them. It's an unfortunate situation, but I think that eventually unemployment does need to end, or else it just won't. Then what? It's scary to think what will happen, but I try to remain positive - I pray people are able to find work to sustain themselves and their families.

Yep, its only a matter of time before people really flip out because of this. Whatever you do people, do not resort to violence or aggression. This is precisely the design of the construct. If they can get you to lash out, they can effectively declare martial law and make things extremely uncomfortable. Peace and love is the most powerful countermeasure that you have.

If you become preemptive, you will only help seal the plan and force it to its fruition.

Namaste and Love

where did you get that year and a half figure? It's six months here in California and I get unemployment because I got laid off through no fault of my own, which is what unemployment is for, they don't give it to people that get fired and I get it because I am a taxpayer. Mine just ran out last week and I got one last partial check coming for $190.00. It's true, unemployment pays better than the jobs that are readily available, just taking one or even two of these crap jobs isn't enough. I've been focusing on getting a certificate in something and now I have two interviews for $25 an hour job. I couldn't have done it without unemployment.

[edit on 1-7-2010 by ALlENATlON]

Too bad good old George Carlin isn't around to see us circling the drain

In my personal opinion no monetary society will ever succeed, but do these numbers seem at all 'odd' to anyone? Does this mean that half of the United States is drawing from unemployment, and if so then what do you think will happen when half of the US floods the job market? I know people can't find jobs here in Missouri, and one of my friends is moving with his wife to Maryland to find a job. All my friends who know anything about the current status of the economy are trying to stay in college as long as they can. Just delaying the inevitable if you ask me...

This "economy" IS going to collapse, and I for one can't wait!

reply to post by arpanet


If the economy collapses people will suffer. Murder, rape, destruction ect......and you can't wait...

reply to post by ALlENATlON


Which is why wasting even more money on unconstitutional things like unemployment is a bad idea.

UI is a state issue, not a federal one.

reply to post by brainwrek


welfare, medicaid and the like are bad ideas, they thrive on your dependancy and drain our funds very quickly. unemployment is 100% temporary and helps people get back on their feet. Ya, states do pay for it, they just need approval from the douche bags pretending to run the country.

[edit on 1-7-2010 by ALlENATlON]

I couldn't agree more. GET A JOB, even if it's a menial job when you are used to working as a "professional".

And if you can't or won't find a job then start your own business. Mow lawns, clean houses, wash windows, or use whatever talents you may have.
There are hundreds of thousands of people that have gone from being broke to wealthy by using their various talents. I couldn't even begin to list the thousands of entrepreneurs that started with NOTHING but a talent, desire and a willingness to work hard to accomplish their dream.

I started working for myself 20+ years ago. I don't have any special talents, so I have cleaned houses, mowed lawns, washed windows, been a "critter sitter", mucked out out barns, hauled off trash, made and sold crafts and just about any other thing I could do to earn money to pay the bills. It was hard and a lot of times I really hated it, but today I work 3 days a week most weeks from about 10AM til 3PM. I couldn't do that working for someone else. I could make a a lot more money if I wanted to work harder. I have never not been able to find work when I wanted it. And I live in a tiny, rural community where the average income is below the national average.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
You know here's a novel idea.

Get a job.

Look I don't care who you are, what your qualifications or non qualifications are, eduction etc..

You CAN get a job almost anywhere, even if it's minimum wage, who cares? At least your bringing home something.

I think the unemployment rate also has to do with a person's pride, some people just refuse to get a job that's not in their field or that they feel like they are too good to work at McDonalds or Starbucks.

The truth is, these would only be temporary anyway.

People need to leave their pride behind and look for ANY job that provides ANY sort of income.

This is not however to say that there are some who jsut can't find a job, because fundementally there are those for which there just are NO jobs.

~Keeper

What really POs me about this situation is the TRILLIONS spent on banker bailouts to guys who took high risks and failed, by our scum congress and pushed by two scum administrations (democrat AND republican). What could $1 Trillion do to stimulate small business and entrepreneurship in the USA? It's obvious if in the right hands, No? Right hands NOT being the same bankers who screwed everything else up.

To big too fail? That's not us, "we the people", we are small so we fail. But it's our tax dollars collected by force that fueled the printing presses to fund those FOREIGN and domestic bankers, so that they could get their FAT $1M+ bonuses when we are all sucking THIRD WORLD GAS.

Does anybody get it??!! I didn't think so.

reply to post by tothetenthpower


You said "I don't care who you are, what your qualifications or non qualifications are, eduction etc.....You CAN get a job almost anywhere"

Then you said "fundementally there are those for which there just are NO jobs"

Why don't you just go ahead and finish this argument you are having with yourself, and when you have reached one general opinion that you can firmly stand by, then you come back and post on the topic. Don't worry, we'll wait...

reply to post by ALlENATlON


There's the standard State unemployment and then there is the Federal extensions. Here in Illinois, with all your combined extensions, you can get about 99 weeks of unemployment.

It works in tiers - in some States you have to reapply - so make sure you do your own research. States, on purpose, don't advertise on how to collect - it's something you have to do on your own. Don't believe them if you get a letter saying you don't qualify - do your own research.

A warning to anyone collecting - taking a temp job can work against you in collecting. They way the system works, you will probably end up losing more benefits in the long-run. You are obligated to take one if it’s offered to you, but it’s something to think about.

There won't be a million people cut off right away - the benefits will expire at the end of their tier - which could range from 12-26 weeks.

Since December, they have been saying unemployment is going to end - they always wind up passing an extension. They just don't want people thinking they have a two year free ride.

reply to post by ALlENATlON


There's the standard State unemployment and then there is the Federal extensions. Here in Illinois, with all your combined extensions, you can get about 99 weeks of unemployment.

It works in tiers - in some States you have to reapply - so make sure you do your own research. States, on purpose, don't advertise on how to collect - it's something you have to do on your own. Don't believe them if you get a letter saying you don't qualify - do your own research.

A warning to anyone collecting - taking a temp job can work against you in collecting. They way the system works, you will probably end up losing more benefits in the long-run. You are obligated to take one if it’s offered to you, but it’s something to think about.

There won't be a million people cut off right away - the benefits will expire at the end of their tier - which could range from 12-26 weeks.

Since December, they have been saying unemployment is going to end - they always wind up passing an extension. They just don't want people thinking they have a two year free ride.

Put it simply. The Capitalists have gathered up their cash from this "banking crisis." And now they have it all, there upping and leaving the UK without sharing a single penny back to the citizens.
UK Industry and profits can be found in Asia where the market now is in Industry and Steel. theres nothing worthy of manufacturing in the UK, were effectively becoming choked into a Cuba-like country, being held to ransom for even simple amenities.

If you think those 1.2mil are going to have "chips" or any conspiracy rubbish to earn their cash, think again, there is NO cash. Its in the hands of those in Europe and Asia and there not sharing a penny. Were screwed people.

Originally posted by ALlENATlON
reply to post by arpanet

 

If the economy collapses people will suffer. Murder, rape, destruction ect......and you can't wait...

People are already suffering! Murder, rape, destruction, etc... Already happens on a day to day basis around the world, and the only reason your taking such a stance now is because your afraid it will happen to you. So sorry that it is finally hitting close to home, but I have a news flash for you: In the ecumenical scope, your life is meaningless!

Just because an economy collapses doesn't mean people will suffer. It is really up to the people to come together and decide the fate of our species, but I guarantee if we remain divided we will be conquered....