G20 protest violence escalates in Toronto

reply to post by Tryptych


If you have people that are all too ready to riot, why on earth would you need provocateurs? Seems to me, they will do it on their own, and don't need any help from fictional people hiding in the crowd.

Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by Tryptych

 

If you have people that are all too ready to riot, why on earth would you need provocateurs? Seems to me, they will do it on their own, and don't need any help from fictional people hiding in the crowd.

well why do the police do it, because they do, why help incite a problem?

not really in the remit of the police is it? They are not fictional people working in the crowd, wise up dude

I am now totally convinced that the brutality which has raged in Iran since their monstrous rigged election has been an 'experiment' to see how to control the populace once they realise they have been duped.

Having followed that situation very closely last year, it now seems clear to me that Iran is showing the US the way. US is adopting the exact same strategies. Plants in the crowd to instigate violence, arrest of innocent protesters on fabricated evidence of violence against the police. Police brutality towards prisoners. Lies in support of this sham scenario spewed by the press. Ridiculously harsh sentences handed out in staged, mock trials. Imposition of martial law because of the 'contrived lawlessness'.

Listening to the Fox reporter on TV yesterday, his diatribe against the protesters beggared belief. It was so obvious that he was spewing a pre-written script. They don't seem to care any more - they are becoming more and more outrageous and audacious because they believe they are now untouchable. Exactly the same as in Iran. I remember being stunned by the audacity of Press TV reportage.....and I see exactly the same thing happening here.

Believe me, if there is a war with Iran, the leaders of all countries involved are complicit in the same plot. it is being staged by all of them for one reason only...their evil, satanic agenda.

The ordinary people of the world are all my brothers and sisters, and I join with you all in love as we go through these tumultuous times.

On an energetic level we must join together as one. Send love to each other constantly.

I hope that somehow, someday soon, these evil cabals will meet their hubris.

I can't stop their games singlehandedly, but I can join millions, billions of others across the globe in sending out into the world as much of the kind of positive, loving energy which these dark, evil beings find so threatening.

To all my brothers and sisters across the world. I love you. We are together in our hearts and soul as we go through this and, and this can be more powerful than we can imagine.

Please take a few minutes in your day to send love to all the innocent, good people across the globe, and to ask any and all the beings of light and goodness in the universe to help us raise our energies to a level which will make this evil gang unable to function any longer. As we raise the energies, we take aware their life breath.

reply to post by woodwardjnr


These people go to these G20 meetings like it's burning man or a phish concert.

They go for the riot. That is why they go. They don't give a damn about the protest. They plan on the internet what they are going to do and then they go to the G20 and clash with police on purpose. They do so, so they can later go online again and whine how they were treated badly by the meanie old cops who hurt them for breaking windows and setting fires.

Watch this

[edit on 6/27/2010 by whatukno]

Originally posted by Izarith
Hey every one.....

I have just figured something out!

As I was searching on YouTube looking for G20 videos I kept seeing nothing but the same dame video of those stupid staged cop cars burning...

And then I suddenly had an epiphany, a stroke of genius and i finally realised why there are G20 Protests in the first place...

The reason why there are G20 protests and all you see on the news is the same damn Cop car burning is because they don't want Anyone too see this...

They don;'t want anyone seeing reports on what the corporate thieves attending the G20 are talking about, it's that simple.

Thats why they spent a billion on security and make a big fuss about it, so thousands of people would flock to protest and have every news outlet and viewer concentrated on a staged Cop car burning.

If you Take a look at the video you can clearly see that they openly express the Globalisation agenda, and for all those people who still doubt Mexico's President Calderon is not A IMF world Bank USA Puppet, I hope those doubts are put to rest.

And no one gives a crap about whats being said at the G20 summit.

Like I said these elites are up top for a reason, we are just to damn stupid.

Take me with you G20! Take me with you.

reply to post by whatukno


Im going to delete my ATS account soon, this website has become invaded, it's almost pointless even staying here nowadays.

Originally posted by DISRAELI
They believe that acts of violence and vandalism are going to change government decisions?
How, exactly, is that supposed to work?

Oh, gee, I don't know.

Maybe we should ask the French since without the French Revolution we would still be ruled by despots.

It is only thanks to violent protests that the common man has as many privileges and freedoms that he does.

All that violence and vandalism is not helping their cause.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Who do you think theyse "protestors" who are starting the violence work for?

All protests have people who are paid to incite violence so that the police have an excuse to shut them down.

BTW, why do they get to determine where we can protest from?

I'm a Canadian citizen and we have the right to peacefully assemple without being harrassed by security officials or CSIS.

Why are all the peaceful protestors so weak minded that they go along with the provokators? Those people who supposedly get paid for this crap don't set stuff on fire or smash windows alone. The peaceful people do it to and just being around the crime scene gives support to the vandals.
Masses are so easy to manipulate.

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I have seen 2 revolutions and one military coup in my life. It was always about who has the support of whom, especially in armed security forces, military and media, about who gives orders, who obeys to these orders and who rejects them, in short, who has control about the situation and can corner the opposition quick and without too much noise, before it gets a chance to organize. Well planned strategy, not mindless vandalism.

These violent G20-"protestors" are nothing than ordinary thugs and arsonists hiding in a crowd, justifying some destructive fun with politics. They could terrorize the streets for centuries and would achieve nothing of value. Don't set any hope for a change on them.

these corpotards that attend this meeting aren't getting together to further any elected agenda for the people
they are there to further a private anti electorate agenda

and they make the electorate pay for it

like getting a bill for the bullet from the executioner of your child

they haven't written the expletives that properly describe these creatures

I have nothing against protests but peaceful protests. A person can yell but it does not have to equate to voilence. What is wrong with holding signs? I can understand people are made about the current situation the world but voilence only gets people arrested hit or killed.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas

 

If I know my Canadians, if even one person is killed by security forces, they are going to have anarchy in those streets.

~Keeper

[edit on 6/26/2010 by tothetenthpower]

For real? I guess this shows my gross ignorance--I was actually surprised when I saw that there was rioting going on in Canada in the first place. I figured the reason they were having the summit in Canada was because other than Switzerland, that would be the least likely place to encounter protesting.
Seriously, I didn't know Canadians had it in 'em....and I mean that in a good way, so please don't be angry with me for not knowing. I'm on the entire opposite side of the U.S. from Canada, so I guess we just don't hear too much about what's going on up there unless it makes national news. Don't have too many Canadians down here either...
H3LL YEAH! Kick some a$$ Canada!

[edit on 6/27/2010 by WashMoreFeet]

lol had to watch as an ex firie, wouldnt drive a cannuck car if ya p[aid me

All the peace in the world cannot defeat these people. That is why violence occurs, because peaceful means are ineffective. I hate violence but unfortunately if you want to get results it may be the only way.

Originally posted by sheepslayer247
reply to post by SoulofBlack

 

For the sake of my own education, can you tell me a time where citizens have used violence to bring about positive change? I agree that agression may be needed at times but it is not the way to go. All your doing is exchanging one tyrannical entity for another. Can you say military coup?

I'm not sure the extent of the violence involved, but wouldn't the Boston Tea Party be in that classification? Peaceful protests are just an annoyance to them, while an all out violent protest would be counter-productive (unless they incited it). But showing up in force and unwaivering in their cause is another. Being just like the law enforcement brigade (with our own sound cannons, megaphones, water cannons, etc). If there were common sense on both sides, it would open the door for negotiations. But the G20/8/7 pinheads could care less about the little guy. They spend good money to keep them atleast arms length away. They're just like crime lords, with pea brained bodyguards. They're well aware of their oppression, but as long as they get THEIR way, the bodyguards are the interference for them.
I can see it now. People in the near future being swept into busses and being hauled of to detention facilities saying 'I'm writing my congressman. You won't get away with this!'. That's where peaceful protest will get you these days. Although I do not condone violence, you have to ask yourself how far you are willing to go to protect your freedom? It isn't sinking to their level. It's establishing a boundary that will not be crossed without an equal and opposite reaction. 'Force +1' they call it in law enforcement.

Of course I have absolutely no respect for those who destroy property of people like you and me. It's good they show those evil mother#ers we are pissed though. But, they have to keep their anger under controle. Don't push it to far. We will only end up in deeper problems and there aren't enough people awake to counter those problems.

It's important to stay peacefull until more people know what's going on and our numbers have grown.

Don't expect them to listen to your ''conspiracy theories'' if you act violently. They already call us crazy as it is.

Don't suddenly drop the entire conspiracy on their heads either. Let them get used to the idea first. Play the game the same as the elite.

Once a lot of people are awake, they should prepare a bit better. Like others have already mentioned; Protective gear. Don't make it easy for the fascists.

English isn't my native language, so their might be some grammer errors and what not.

reply to post by Jonko


I agree with you. If the people who are escalating the violence would instead take that time to try to inform others, maybe by the time there is a mass understanding of what is going on, we won't need violence. The best of both worlds.

We have to remember that not everyone looks at stuff like this critically. It is easy to dismiss it with how the media spins it. The hard part is understanding what is going on and teaching others.

Originally posted by TheFinalTruth14
We have to remember that not everyone looks at stuff like this critically. It is easy to dismiss it with how the media spins it. The hard part is understanding what is going on and teaching others.

And you should consider the possibility that not everyone looks at your "final truths" as uncritical as you do. That most of them thought way further and have no interest in obsolete nonsense anymore.

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reply to post by OuttaTime


I do not agree with a violent solution to anything.....but if it was going to happen, I believe that it would have to happen just the way you described. A complete organized militarization of the people.

Lets pretend that this took place, the people met the police with equal force on the streets. Would we be interested in a dialogue with tptb, if they were willing, before a clash took place on the streets? Or if it has come to a citizen militarization, do they just take it over?

I guess what I'm asking is do you believe that our Govt's would fold under the threat of an organized, armed citizen force? Also, would the organizers of the overthrow, most likely of military origins, not use this opportunity to seize power? Either way, you have the threat of a military coup.

Okay guys, I was down in the middle of it all for awhile, watching what was going on. This had nothing to do with protesting NWO or even the G20/G8. It was simply a time for kids who hate cops to do there thing in the cover of the crowd.

I was there! I saw what happened, a lot of juggalos and the like, screaming die pigs, it wasn't about anything other than causing the police force as much damage as possible.

Most of the violence was done by people who have no idea about any of these issues. It was just a time to 'stick it to the pigs' for getting their weed confiscated some other night.

I asked some guy throwing rocks, he had no idea what the g8/g20 was, no idea about any of the issues. He saw it on tv and wanted to go out and raise some hell. That's all it was.

The posters on here are very deluded, I was there, I saw it all.

[edit on 27-6-2010 by Zstugome]