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David Icke…..Ufology’s Worst Ambassador

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posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by Annee
As I always say: The only person I believe is Me.

It does not matter who is putting forth info - - - it is my right and responsibility to discern what "I" believe.

Feel what ever you want - - but don't dictate to me who and what to believe.


I agree 100% with this. It seems that MMN here likes to push his views on others.

So what if people believe in Icke? Don't like what is written? Don't read it. Don't like what's on TV? Don't watch it.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 12:49 PM
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PS. I don't like the man...but I still think there iat least 90% truth in what he says.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 12:50 PM
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It involves time travel, robots, homosexuality, ass-ass-ins, and sun gods. If you're really interested, just search "Star Theory."


Sounds like you combined Alex Jones' closet homosexuality with David Icke's blatant disregard for logic and sanity.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by Exuberant1
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not
 


How does it feel to have just advertised for David Icke?

He clearly doesn't mind the negative attention, maybe he goes out of his way to generate it - so how nice of you to give it to him.

You just fed a troll who needed no feeding.


Absolutely brilliant reply. I have to say that the simplicity of your post not only drilled into the heart of the overall issue, but, it might also serve to unearth a particular motive for creating such a thread.

Namaste to you wise one.



Namaste and love



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 12:54 PM
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It really bugs me that people who are into the ufo subject, or any other paranormal subject, and write a book, then they are only doing it for the money. Its getting really old now people saying this about every person who sells a book about ufos or the paranormal.

I really like david icke. I dont believe half the stuff he says , but boy, he has a great imagination, and no matter what some people say, he is hurting no one. You dont have to buy his books, or his dvd.

And people forget, or dont know that david icke was famous before he got into this. He was a very respectable sports presenter here in the uk. So, saying he is doing this for money is rubbish. Also the amount of abuse he took and ridiclue, and his career finished, you think he dont all this on the of chance of selling some books?

I believe that david icke believes what he is saying. Like i said before, he is not hurting anyoone, and there are far more worse people in this world to hate!



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 12:54 PM
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Anyone stupid enough to believe in such trash should really chug that kool-aide down and do the world a favor.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 12:58 PM
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Icke could well be a plant. It would be a clever ploy. Get someone to tall most of the truth, but let him come across as a bit crazy and sensationalist and then write him off as an idiot. That way, the truth they are trying to hide gets fully discredited along with the man.

Don't they do something similar to conspiracy theorists??? 9/11 - all those onspiracy loonies. They discredit the messenger, and know that by extension the message will be discredited too.

And if something gets a bit uncomfortable, they manufactaure another disaster or scandal to distract everyone.

Sad thing is their strategy is successful most of the time.

Again and again people fall into the trap.

I mean, there is a mountain of reliable eveidence about 9/11, bud they obfuscate. IMO the case against them is strong enough to warrant a revolution, but people do nothing.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 01:03 PM
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It doesn't matter whether you like him or not, doesn't matter if he's a bit loony. The question is IS HE TELLING THE TRUTH?

There's only ONE way to approach that question.....go and do your own reaearch. There's tons of info both for and against on the web. Do your own research and do your own thinking.

Don't just dismiss the message because you don't rate the messenger.

Lazy thinking about such serious things is dangerous. And they rely on it.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 01:03 PM
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An Oak Tree Was once a nut who held it's ground!

End of Line......



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 01:06 PM
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I don't think anyone sees him as a "UFOlogy ambassador", and i'm not sure where you got that idea. There's not even any mention of UFOs in the pictures and quotes of his you provided.

He's more known as a 'fringe' or 'new age' spiritualist. Never seen him invited to any talks strictly dealing with UFOs, and if he was it was edited out because he just rambled on about the Matrix. The only 'alien' race he does speak of is the one who's been allegedly living among us and controlling things for centuries, but they sure as hell aren't flying UFOs to work each day to beat traffic.

Or are they...

[edit on 25-6-2010 by Risen]



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 01:12 PM
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He's more known as a 'fringe' or 'new age' spiritualist


Which gets dragged into UFOlogy. Hence all the spirit orb scout light ships and the GFL and light beings.
David Icke on UFOs

And david icke on at the bay area UFO expo.
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 01:21 PM
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Ufology?
Ambassador?

Why not tell us which of the ET races he is ambassador of? Not those evil reptilians, that is for sure. If he is ambassador indeed, it is a better race.

For me, it is enough David Icke denounced the implanted chip, and warned that CIA labs produced it as nano particles in vaccines since 1997 (youtube interview). There are so many religious who do not denounce the mark of the beast, and so many politicians who are ready even today to promote it.



It doesn't mean I agree with everything he says. Everyone has the right of his own belief, including David Icke.

Seems some in positions are really scared of the facts he carries out
And that job of Icke deserves applauds!

[edit on 25-6-2010 by Gliese581]



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by zaiger
reply to post by Risen
 




He's more known as a 'fringe' or 'new age' spiritualist


Which gets dragged into UFOlogy. Hence all the spirit orb scout light ships and the GFL and light beings.


Nah, you don't see Stanton Friedman or anyone who is widely regarded as UFO experts/ambassadors going on about the GFL and light beings. David Icke has a niche thing going on, and is rarely, if ever, asked to be an ambassador of the UFO hypothesis to the public. He's more for people who already believe in UFOs, and is just an ambassador for his unique reptilian shapeshifter theory. You might see him at UFO conferences, but talking to people who already believe in UFOs is hardly the work of a UFOlogy ambassador.


David Icke on UFOs


That's just him passing along info about the disclosure project and phoenix lights. He offers no personal opinions.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 01:44 PM
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boy you sound defensive. haha...

he does go on and on about pedophilia. but do you know how many children go missing? if everyone who serial killed or raped children took a kid or two everyday it still nowhere near adds up!

this actually sounds like a personal attack on icke. he may even be wrong about most of his theories(dont think he is though), but even if he was only 10% correct about all of everything he talks about it still makes him 1000% more truthful than those he's exposing.

you sir, are a hater, and i declare shenanigans.

furthermore you are a communist or socialist or whatever. a man cant make a dollar these days? for shame



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 01:48 PM
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I don't even partially agree with the OP. If Icke has made a career of conspiracy, the OP here is quickly making a career on this site of attempted character assassinations of just about every conspiracy author I've seen discussed on this site. That in itself should be food for thought to the would be reader of this thread as to the motives involved with his/her latest attack. Icke in this case.


I agree. I'm not a follower of Icke's and don't really know what to make of him, but I always find it odd how some people go out of their way to discredit people like Icke. Why spend so much time and energy boning up on what Icke has to say if you think he has no credibility to begin with. I wouldn't waste my time reading anything by Icke or going to his website if I'd determined long ago that he had nothing worthwhile to say.

It reminds me of another thread I saw on ATS that bashed Zecharia Sitchin. One member was very vocal about his/her belief that he was full of nonsense and lacking in scientific fact, yet claimed not only to have read, but to have owned ALL of his books. WTF?



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 01:55 PM
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Hey OP, you've become quite the hallway monitor on ATS.

Maybe you should give me your phone number so I can call you for your approval next time I'm shopping for a book in Barnes N Nobles.

Seriously, you need to take that big ego of yours and put it to bed.

On topic, I rarely if ever pay attention to David Icke, but nonetheless he has as much a right to sell his books as any other author does.

It's quite apparent that the only thing bigger than your ego is your jealously.





[edit on 25-6-2010 by OnTheFelt]



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by beebs


I mean, its not like buying his stuff is the same thing as putting cash into a collection plate to support the paedophiliac empire...


Awsome. Just Awsome



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 01:58 PM
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I suggest all of the loyal Icke fans read his book


or icke will get you in his true reptilian form.





[edit on 25-6-2010 by zaiger]



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 02:19 PM
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A lot of times David Icke says things based on eye witness testimonies, which taken alone, can't be considered 100 percent true. But there is actual PHYSICAL EVIDENCE to his claims of the Paedophile ring in Scottland. I heard him on the Alex Jones show talking about it, as well as read his information.

Icke also says that everyone should do research for yourself, and to take the information that feels right, and leave the stuff that doesn't. He is not forcing this information on anyone.

I feel like David Icke is credible because I have done a lot of research in Metaphysics, Quantum Physics, and the nature of reality, and all of Icke's research (about the nature of reality) fits perfectly with what I have discovered for myself without him. Sure, some things he says seem ridiculous... but so did the idea of 9/11 being an inside job at one time as well.

We must know that we are ignorant and not all knowing, and we must not dismiss any idea just because it might sound crazy. Some of what Icke says sounds crazy, but knowing that 90+% of his information has been dead on, we shouldn't dismiss anything he says without physical evidence that shows otherwise.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 02:20 PM
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