Citizen's group taking border battle into own hands

reply to post by snowen20


Yeah, the whole nazi angle kind of leaves a dirty dirty taste in my mouth

Still, at least SOMEONE is stepping up to the plate.

reply to post by slugger9787


These guys are National Socialists.... remeber Germany in the 1930s? They were national socialists too. It's a thin facade to disguise the fact that they are possible racist facists just out to "kill them some Mexicans."

If these guys come under heavy fire from a drug cartel do you really think that they will be taking head shots? I think not. Without proper training they'll be slaughtered, they need to know how to approach a situation tactically and they need to have a firm chain of command established, they need an exit strategy and they need a stronghold. There's more to fighting a war than being able to fire a gun at another person, but judging from your paultry offering to this topic you had no idea.

Give me that crap when they come back in bodybags. I'm pretty sure they won't even engage the drug runners anyway. This is most likely just a publicity stunt.

reply to post by dontblink


You're almost certainly right, they probably won't engage the cartels and it probably IS some sort of twisted publicity stunt. Likely they're attempting to swell their ranks and lure in some jaded white kids.

Guess we'll have to wait and see what(if anything) happens though.

I can see it now, the united stated has completely dissolved, and transformed into a tyrannical dictatorship.. Everyone called to the common area to remember how this wonderful USSA was formed when the brave men and women of “ready” bravely took control of out of the hands of the faulty capitalistic government that refused to do anything.

Complete with artistic propaganda and maybe even an overly dramatic reenactment.

Originally posted by snowen20
Damn glad to see a militia getting serious about problems in the U.S.
I hope they send a very clear message to their quarry. I also hope they send a very clear message to the Inept U.S. Government. If you want something done right do it your damn self. As a veteran I say, Good luck gentlemen, do what must be done.


There was that one part that burned me a little though.."National Socialist"

Take what you can get I guess.

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I reiterate that same thoughts, it's about time the local Militia got off their duffs and did something to defend the US from illegal border crossings. There is nothing Nazi, or socialist about this, nor is it Racial. It is DEFENSE of a NATIONAL BORDER against a foreign invader. I was in the service too, and I say more power to them. The Good Ship America is being boarded, people, by Pirates of the worst variety....do we repel these boarders, or strike the colors and give them the ship? That is the pertinent question here.

Nazi Moniker or not the fact that they are guarding their border which they have a constitutional right to do is something I hope all Americans see and understand.

Undoubtedly MSM will spin those who want sovereignty as RADICAL, EXTREME, FRINGE ELEMENT, RIGHT WING NUTS. In any case here is what they are not doing… They are not going over the border “that I know of” to attack or provocateur.

They are home based defenders of liberty who are potentially going to suffer at the hands of the Federal Government so that many Americans can continue to watch the world cup and get fat; and moreover live in total ignorance while the blond bimbo on Faux news or MSNBC babbles incessantly.

Time is running out prepare, to reap the whirlwind.

reply to post by Son of Will


I am a conservative who hates what is being done to our country, but they are NAZIS.

These drug corridors are the very places that me and my buddies go to prospect for gold. One buddy never carries a gun, but I always carry a sidearm and a rifle. I would use them if I had to, but I am not going to use human beings for target practice just to make a political point.

reply to post by groingrinder


Give a warning shot across their bow. *figuratively speaking*

If they shoot back, You shoot them.
If they run forward throw some more warning shots down range to make the point that:

GOING FORWARD =BAD

And that

GOING BACK = GOOD

that’s a simple enough tactic even a NAZI can understand it.

I’m still burning over that little BLATANT NAZI fact.

I'm all for citizen militias taking matters into their own hands...Far be it for me to tell the neo Nazis they can't protect their country, but I won't be supporting THEM.

don't worry about theirtactics...good gravy boys....they are not efeminent west coast confused idiots, they are not northern state sit arounds...they sound like American "logic driven" heroes. you know, in the old days they were the norm...we just haven't seen any in action for maybe thirty years. P.S. if it comes to it.....Texas sends the east flank to sweep south and strengthen the numbers

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I associate with a few of these "good ole boys" and what concernes me is that along with their minute man posturing they also like to indulge in crank and hooch. They will more than likely end up shooting each other.

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reply to post by whaaa


Wow, really?
That is a wham bam of a problem. Maybe in that case the Feds will let this train wreck run its course to push for harsher gun laws.
You know you cant trust those throwed off good ol boys with guns they might shoot stuffs.

Whatever, the if the previous militia anomalies are any indicator then this is probably a fed setup of some kind too. To push the masses into believing that those race hating neo Nazis are battling Mexicans and shooting at innocent people. it’s the fringe element of Obama hating racist white trash hooch inebriated junkies. WATCH OUT THE TERRORISTS WILL GET YOU!! I.e. the domestic constitutionalist right wing country loving citizen.

Shoot straight guys and show some damn weapon retention and military discipline….please.

reply to post by Son of Will


"National Socialism" IS NAZI, you idiot! "National Socialist Workers Party"- NAZI for short.
NOT THAT I HAVE a problem with them, helping to protect OUR borders.
They might not approve of MY personal life- or I theirs. But- I'll FIGHT, TO DEATH, for THEIR RIGHTS!!
I wish them all the luck possible!! I WISH I could join them, right now!
If I lived near the border- I most certainly, would be there, rifle in hand. PROTECTING MY COUNTRY. Doing the job, that the FEDGOV, won't.

reply to post by Vitchilo


You know, I just have a bad feeling about this.

This feels like it could escalate pretty quickly into something even those of us who are opposed to illegal immigration would not like to see. The killing of human beings, some of who are NOT drug smugglers. Although I have no opposition to killing those engaged in violence at our borders, the drug cartels, I really dont think illegal entry into the US should be a death sentence to those individuals just looking to exploit our resources. Yes, its wrong, yes, its illegal, yes I wish they would stop it, and I think we need to take more steps to stop it, including deportation, fines, jailing, whatever, but snipers? I think thats a bit much.

reply to post by whaaa


"Whaa"- I know those people, too. Perhaps, some of them DO drink a little. THEY can handle it, AND still shoot straight. Please, do NOT judge others, by YOUR abilities. As for "crank"- I don't think so. That is for junkies, and worthless human detritus. NOT "good 'ol boys"!
BTW- I train, every month, with MY local militia. Though- we are using less ammo, these days. Still practicing TACTICS, though.
Yes- SOME of us, have had ENOUGH. Say, perhaps- THREE PERCENT?????
(Go ! 3-percenters!!!!!!)

Originally posted by mpriebe81
reply to post by dontblink

 

You're almost certainly right, they probably won't engage the cartels and it probably IS some sort of twisted publicity stunt. Likely they're attempting to swell their ranks and lure in some jaded white kids.

Guess we'll have to wait and see what(if anything) happens though.

Come on folks....its probably a CIA operation.

Originally posted by Patriotgal
reply to post by Son of Will

 

"National Socialism" IS NAZI, you idiot! "National Socialist Workers Party"- NAZI for short.
NOT THAT I HAVE a problem with them, helping to protect OUR borders.

Oh yea right. Like they dont froth at the mouth at hunting down the little brown folk.

If I were gov I would tell them to get the hell out of the field or they will be raked with NG Cobra fire. Thats all anyone needs is a bunch of ass munch Nazis doing any dam thing in this country. They are a bunch of drug dealing armored car hijacking fools themselves.

(disclaimer...all this was said under the idea that this story is true :lol

I think it is funny how many people are supporting NAZIs...with the attitude of "Well if the government isn't going to do it...I support the NAZIs doing it.". Talk about moronic.

Anyway...I think these guys have watched one to many movies. I really hope no one here cries and complains when these fools are killed on the border. And they will be killed if they go through with their plan. But most likely they will be arrested before that.

I think they are more likely to kill a border patrol agent or an unlucky rancher out walking on his land then they are to take down any drug cartel.

Originally posted by mpriebe81
reply to post by Son of Will

 

Pretty common knowledge that the National Socialist party are a white power group, aka Neo-nazis.

So that makes the white half of Obama, which he'd rather see expunged from his being because of his hatred for the white people, the Nazi part?

No wonder he's so confused. Both parts of him hate each other.

I don't see anything happening more than publicity of this militia group until somwe serious funding comes to them and I hope it comes soon.

Good thread!

Edit to add this video. US closes park to American citizens.

Far cry from the Days of JFK when he said "...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard..." in his moon speech.

It seems common in the Obama administration to says "....and we will find the easy way out, not because it's easy but because of our incompetence."


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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
I think it is funny how many people are supporting NAZIs...with the attitude of "Well if the government isn't going to do it...I support the NAZIs doing it.". Talk about moronic.

Anyway...I think these guys have watched one to many movies. I really hope no one here cries and complains when these fools are killed on the border. And they will be killed if they go through with their plan. But most likely they will be arrested before that.

I think they are more likely to kill a border patrol agent or an unlucky rancher out walking on his land then they are to take down any drug cartel.

Whose supporting Nazis? From what I understand those who are in agreement with the actions of the discussed militia are supporting militia activity. The fact that this particular militia happens to be Nazi isn’t a factor per se. It’s just something that cant be changed. While this doesn’t make it a non-issue it is pointless to whine about it and poopoo the general idea of militia activity.

I myself am for militia activity as it pertains to exercising constitutional rights to bring about a better country. If they were not Nazis I would be for them too.

I’m not supporting Nazis by supporting the acts of those who wish to in *appearance at least* take control of criminal activity by means of vigilantism.

Truth is if anything this is a fed setup one way or the other. The fact that this militia is National Socialist screams party line anti militia, watch out for the home grown terrorist, rise of the new right BS to me.

If they are not being used federally then I support the “IDEA” that they are fighting for, NOT supporting National Socialism, I would be a [SNIP]imbecile your right.


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