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Originally posted by Pryde87
And what are you going to do when the batteries run out for your scope? I doubt lithium batteries will be abundant when the SHTF
Originally posted by Subjective Truth
reply to post by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
SAY what. And what exactly does this have to do with killing pigs by the dozen for money at night with a thermal scope? What are you some kind of closet Rambo or something.
Growing up I had a friend that would shot birds just for the fun of it. He grew up tp be a very bad person. Kinda makes you wonder a little bit.
This is not sporting and should have no place in this country. I love hunting and shooting it is a sport this not is not a sport it is animal cruelty plain and simple. No matter how you try and spin it Rambo.
What if they were hunting dogs or horses in this manner would that make it different?
[edit on 15-6-2010 by Subjective Truth]
[edit on 15-6-2010 by Subjective Truth]
Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Yeah. It's brutal, and that could be YOU.
Lesson learned.
Your enemy shows up at night with that scope, with your crew lacking any form of night vision, and you have no chance whatsoever.
Originally posted by moonwilson
Originally posted by darthlung1
But as for the main topic of this thread. The sniper may get 3 people before he is lit-the-!@#$-up. i dont know about most folks, but I dont need IR or night vision to send 30 rounds screaming towards a muzzle flash.
Which is why sniper rifles have flash suppressors on them. No visible muzzle flash- even at night. Usually, a sniper will only fire a single round before displacing, so the report of the rifle won't reveal his location. At night, against a sniper with night optics, if you have no optics of your own, you're hosed. Against a trained sniper, even if you have optics of your own, you're hosed. Firing blindly in the general direction of where you think the guy may be is useless. All you're doing is revealing your location. He'll just put his head down behind cover until you're done shooting.
Originally posted by ZodiacFlyer
A Lot of sniper rifles do NOT have flash suppressors, as they tend to alter the trajectory of the round unless they are perfectly concentric with the bore. The puff of smoke, and the sound of the shot are more useful for locating a sniper than the flash is. You generally won't see the flash unless you are already looking at the shooter when he fires. A sniper will generally hold his fire unless he HAS to take the shot then, especially if there are OPFOR downrange near the target.
Even if a rifle has a flash suppressor, it is not meant to hide the flash from the target, it burns more of the powder off in a controlled manner and lessens the size of the fireball visible to the person firing the weapon. It is meant as a way to minimize the loss of night vision to the firer. Also, most flash hiders serve as a muzzle brake, lessening the felt recoil, as well as limiting how much dust is kicked up by a shooter in the prone position, or in a dusty location. I can attest to the fact that a flash suppressor does little to hide the flash from those being engaged by the weapon, or those in the area. The muzzle flash can be quite visible in all but the brightest sunlight. It is therefore VERY apparent at night.
The only device that really does a lot to hide the flash is a silencer. But they carry with them their own problems.