CONFIRMED Israeli soldiers used suppressed Uzi Sub-Machine Guns Against Flotilla

I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure an Uzi is quite a lethal weapon.

I understand them not wanting to get beat up and taken hostage like their brothers.

However the disarmed IDF soldiers were returned unharmed, the flotilla Dr.s onboard who brought them back were shot, and no israelis were killed that day.

Yea, and?

They invented the gun, so why not use it?

Its a great tight quarters gun thats light, easy to fire and uses light ammo.

SM

This is old news, spotted this, the day that the Mavi Marmara security footage was released by the IDF.


Skellon.

What EXACTLY is the point of this thread ??
That Israeli soldier carry guns ? Tell me which soldiers don't carry guns and then tell me why they call themselves soldiers ?!

This is utterly inane and pointless sensationalism to spread propaganda and slander Israel and the IDF by insinuating that Israel is doing something terrible when all they have shown is a soldier with a gun!

Big deal! Teenagers walk around with M16's in Israel to protect their homes.

Did anyone watch the video?

Israel said they were only armed with paintball guns and sidearms.

This proves yet another part of their story was a lie.

[edit on 12-6-2010 by At0mZer0]

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Well said Sir! They invented the UZI so why not use it! I too think the Israelis are right to use decisive force to deal with this vicious naval assault. I salute their bravery in defending the peace loving people of Israel.

The USS Liberty got this kind of treatment & they seemed to get the message, Rachel Corrie too!



[edit on 12-6-2010 by Lionel]

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Ever consider the possibility that this S13 member was one of the last to board the ship? and dropped with the provision of a live SMG, in light of what was happening below?

If they had some contingency live weapons onboard the Blackhawk or on the Zodiacs, they would have been fools not to equip them after things turned 'ugly'.

We can also tell by the footage submitted that this was later than the initial boarding, as the sky is a dark-mid blue. (dawn)

The initial boarding took place in darkness. (pre-dawn)

A simple observation that escaped Al'jazeera and Press.tv editors that tried to show a different order of events, I spotted it in the first reports.

And so many bought into it.


Skellon.

[edit on 12-6-2010 by Skellon]

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I'm sure there are plenty of unlikely situations you can come up with to defend your belief that bringing guns and using them against protesters is right.

I can't wait to see how Uzi's do against Russia's AK103s, that is if their own prophecy comes true.

WOW, the JDIF is out in great numbers in this thread. That's just...wow.

Thank you OP for posting this.

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What are your thoughts on the IDF soldiers which were disarmed and held hostage and returned alive, AFTER they had already killed protesters?

What are your thoughts about the IDF shooting the unarmed flotilla doctors who brought the soldiers back?

Does this not show that one side showed up ready to kill, and one side didn't?

I'm going to have to call that side the peaceful ones.

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Great post but no point argueing with some posters.

Probably the same ones that a few days ago were screaming that the IDF only had paint guns and pistols...

And we can only see what Israel wants us to see because they confiscated all equipment from the tourists...

considering that Israel created HANAS as controlled oposition as stated by even Israeli scholars that makes this rather chilling

my total repect to the jews who forced this admission out

Israeli document: Gaza blockade isn't about security

JERUSALEM — As Israel ordered a slight easing of its blockade of the Gaza Strip Wednesday, McClatchy obtained an Israeli government document that describes the blockade not as a security measure but as "economic warfare" against the Islamist group Hamas, which rules the Palestinian territory.

Israel imposed severe restrictions on Gaza in June 2007, after Hamas won elections and took control of the coastal enclave after winning elections there the previous year, and the government has long said that the aim of the blockade is to stem the flow of weapons to militants in Gaza.

Last week, after Israeli commandos killed nine volunteers on a Turkish-organized Gaza aid flotilla, Israel again said its aim was to stop the flow of terrorist arms into Gaza.

However, in response to a lawsuit by Gisha, an Israeli human rights group, the Israeli government explained the blockade as an exercise of the right of economic warfare.

"A country has the right to decide that it chooses not to engage in economic relations or to give economic assistance to the other party to the conflict, or that it wishes to operate using 'economic warfare,'" the government said.

McClatchy obtained the government's written statement from Gisha, the Legal Center for Freedom of Movement, which sued the government for information about the blockade. The Israeli high court upheld the suit, and the government delivered its statement earlier this year.

Sari Bashi, the director of Gisha, said the documents prove that Israel isn't imposing its blockade for its stated reasons, but rather as collective punishment for the Palestinian population of Gaza. Gisha focuses on Palestinian rights.

(A State Department spokesman, who wasn't authorized to speak for the record, said he hadn't seen the documents in question.)

The Israeli government took an additional step Wednesday and said the economic warfare is intended to achieve a political goal. A government spokesman, who couldn't be named as a matter of policy, told McClatchy that authorities will continue to ease the blockade but "could not lift the embargo altogether as long as Hamas remains in control" of Gaza.

President Barack Obama, after receiving Mahmoud Abbas, the head of the Palestinian Authority, said the situation in Gaza is "unsustainable." He pledged an additional $400 million in aid for housing, school construction and roads to improve daily life for Palestinians — of which at least $30 million is earmarked for Gaza.

Israel's blockade of Gaza includes a complex and ever-changing list of goods that are allowed in. Items such as cement or metal are barred because they can be used for military purposes, Israeli officials say.

According to figures published by Gisha in coordination with the United Nations, Israel allows in 25 percent of the goods it had permitted into Gaza before the Hamas takeover. In the years prior to the closure, Israel allowed an average of 10,400 trucks to enter Gaza with goods each month. Israel now allows approximately 2,500 trucks a month.

The figures show that Israel also has limited the goods allowed to enter Gaza to 40 types of items, while before June 2007 approximately 4,000 types of goods were listed as entering Gaza.

Israel expanded its list slightly Wednesday to include soda, juice, jam, spices, shaving cream, potato chips, cookies and candy, said Palestinian liaison official Raed Fattouh, who coordinates the flow of goods into Gaza with Israel.

"I think Israel wants to defuse international pressure," said Fattouh. "They want to show people that they are allowing things into Gaza."

It was the first tangible step taken by Israel in the wake of the unprecedented international criticism it's faced over the blockade following last week's Israeli raid on the high seas.

While there have been mounting calls for an investigation into the manner in which Israel intercepted the flotilla, world leaders have also called for Israel to lift its blockade on Gaza.

At his meeting with Abbas, Obama said the Security Council had called for a "credible, transparent investigation that met international standards." He added: "And we meant what we said. That's what we expect."

He also called for an easing of Israel's blockade. "It seems to us that there should be ways of focusing narrowly on arms shipments, rather than focusing in a blanket way on stopping everything and then, in a piecemeal way, allowing things into Gaza," he told reporters.

Egypt, which controls much of Gaza's southern border, reopened the Rafah crossing this week in response to international pressure to lift the blockade

Egypt has long been considered Israel's partner in enforcing the blockade, but Egyptian Foreign Minister Hossam Zaki said the Rafah crossing will remain open indefinitely for Gazans with special permits. In the past, the border has been opened sporadically.

Maxwell Gaylard, the U.N.'s humanitarian coordinator in the Palestinian territories, said the international community is seeking an "urgent and fundamental change" in Israel's policy regarding Gaza rather than a piecemeal approach.

"A modest expansion of the restrictive list of goods allowed into Gaza falls well short of what is needed. We need a fundamental change and an opening of crossings for commercial goods," he said.

Hamas officials said that they were "disappointed" by Israel's announcement, and that the goods fell far short of what was actually needed.

"They will send the first course. We are waiting for the main course," Palestinian Economy Minister Hassan Abu Libdeh said in Ramallah, specifying that construction materials were the item that Gazans need most. Many Palestinians have been unable to build their homes in the wake of Operation Cast Lead, Israel's punishing offensive in the Gaza Strip in December 2008 and January 2009.

Israel said the cement and other construction goods could be used to build bunkers and other military installations.







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I'm quite convince they used silencers to pick people off before they boarded the ship because the first thing many saw was blood coming from an escape hatch.

Funney how the boat was awash with people taking pictures and so few have ended up on the zionist controled new media stations, if you can call them that,

Originally posted by Lionel
reply to post by SkyMarshall

 

Well said Sir! They invented the UZI so why not use it! I too think the Israelis are right to use decisive force to deal with this vicious naval assault. I salute their bravery in defending the peace loving people of Israel.

The USS Liberty got this kind of treatment & they seemed to get the message, Rachel Corrie too!



[edit on 12-6-2010 by Lionel]

if iserail thinks this is a "vicious naval assault" all coming from peace protestors then they are going to wet themselves when forced to face a real army.

"I salute their bravery in defending the peace loving people of Israel."

They were defending the zionist goverment with machine guns and not the peace loving jewish comunity who themselves are sick of the zionist control.

"The USS Liberty got this kind of treatment"

You are on a wind up and americans real are not happy about the cover up on the liberty so you must be working on our side but god help you if you think your helping iserail when you say stuff like that.

[edit on 13-6-2010 by LieBuster]

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What is there to suggest that the 'peace activists' that were holding the soldiers hostage, did not panic when hearing the continued gunfire and as a result changed their plan?

Where is the video footage of said 'unarmed' doctors being killed for returning the soldiers?

Why is it that, when the same unit(Shayetet 13) boarded the MV Francorp (an Antiguan flagged cargo ship carrying arms to Hezbullah) on November the 4th, 2009, it faced no resistance?


Skellon.



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Nah screw that...
Where is your proof that it didnt happen as posted???

Proof from the posters side is that no IDF personel died or suffered gunshot wounds....]

Now its your turn...

reply to post by virgom129


Hi virgom,

You took what I asked in the wrong context....
2nd line.

Skellon.


P.S. Do you still see your post above mine? I can confirm it is still there.




[edit on 13-6-2010 by Skellon]

reply to post by Skellon


I was replying to your post to Atomzero..