RAW: Flotilla Attackers/Aid Workers Prepare Weapons To Attack IDF Soldiers

Anyone that looks at historical maps of Israel quickly comes to realize who is this oppressor/aggressor in this war.

For those of you who defend Israel's actions, I hope you rememer when the Federal Gov't finishes their land grab, the banks finish repo'ing everyones homes and everyone is pushed onto smaller and smaller spaces.

Then, when SWAT rappels down on you as you attempt to defend your space under a bridge with sticks and stones, remember Israel.

Originally posted by jibeho

The militants on this ship were ready and lying in wait for the IDF to rappel down the ropes and attacked before some of these troops even hit the ground. Is it a classic infantry ambush? No. An unexpected preplanned surprise attack/ambush? YES!! These guys came out of the woodwork and mobbed the first officers to drop in on the ship.

Examples of an ambush:

- attacking under cover of darkness
- attacking using the element of surprise
- attacking via an unexpected route

For example, attacking someone at 4 in the morning under cover of darkness by dropping down on them on ropes from a helicopter would be a classic ambush.

The word for attacking someone who drops down on you from a helicopter at 4 in the
morning under cover of darkness is "defending".

That's how it works. If I hide in an alley and club you from behind as you walk past, I can't go to the cops and complain that you ambushed me by defending yourself.

Get it?

Very telling videos Anon72! Now, this story is what one would refer to as a slippery slope. It is very controversial, and quite difficult to discern what is fact and what is propaganda? Still the video of what took place on that vessel was uncalled for, and especially by those who claim to be peace activists. I saw blunt force objects among the crew on that flotilla. The mob immediately descended upon those sailors like emaciated dogs at the site of raw meat. Now, I heard somewhere that they were fired upon. Some reports have claimed that the fire came from the helicopter hovering over head. Then, the Israeli government claims some of the sailors were fired upon by members of the crew.

I was not there, however, why would people aboard that helicopter fire upon their own sailors conducting an interdiction operation? Perhaps, they were warning shots that panicked the Israeli sailors aboard? It may have created an environment of chaos for all involved? We still don't know? We may never know?

I have seen many posts with so much fire and vitriol about the whole thing, before any kind of investigation to piece all the circumstantial evidence together, and to verify the testimonies provided by the IDF and occupants aboard the Mavi Marmara. Still, I know what I saw on that video, and those sailors walked into a hornets nest. What would anyone do in that situation but try to defend ones self and their buddies? In the case of the Israeli special forces, that is exactly what they did. Sadly, in the melee that ensued quite a few people were killed. However, Israel seems to be hot water lately among members of the international community, and it would be foolish and idiotic for them to conduct a raid as significant as this one without following proper protocol and adherence to international law.

Many are getting their feathers ruffled in a knee-jerk rush to judgment. Much of the information that has been released has neither been corroborated nor confirmed in any kind of investigation by the IDF or even an international body like the UN. We need to be weary of the propaganda that is being promulgated everywhere. Show me the facts, and I will make a judgment on this one.



[edit on 5-6-2010 by Jakes51]

I am staggered that anyone would beleive this BS. If you guys think those flabby looking youngsters in those videos are mercenaries, I guess you have never met any real mercenaries.

If they were such evil terrorist mercenaries, trained by the mythical "Al Queada", well those guys are pretty lame then. A bunch of flabby weaklings, wearing "body armor" (those are called life jackets you idiots) and "armed to the teeth" with a kid's slingshot and some marbles. Wow. Those are some scary mercenaries. They obviously did this on purpose, and were expecting commandos with machine guns, so they were totally prepared to repel them with a slingshot and some MARBLES. Yeah. Set up for ambush.

If the devil worshipers(jews) are scared of kids with slingshots loaded with MARBLES, then I guess a bunch of real fighters armed with a couple of 22s could pretty much take out the entire IDF, right?

I'm a merchant marine officer. I also live on a sailboat. My BOAT, nowhere near the size of a ship, is always loaded with guns, ammo, cutlasses, and even a bunch of spearguns, and a water cannon that can sink other vessels in seconds. When someone is attempting to board you on the high seas, this is called PIRACY. It is an attack. They are repelled with all available force. If not, then WE die. There are no witnesses on the high seas. SO we will at least take as many of them with us as we can.

A ship attempting to run a blockade should be accosted by warships. They are commanded to stop or turn back. Warning shots are fired across the bow. If they try to press onward, they get SUNK... NOT attacked with helicopters full of devil worshiping murderers. The idea is to stop the cargo from getting through the blockade, NOT to murder the crew. Sinking the vessel is how it is done. OF course, if the devil worshipers had acted by the normal rules, thsi would have been considered an act of war. It would have been impossible to spin the sinking of an unarmed hospital ship by a warship as some type of "self defense". Anyone remember the sinking of the Lusitania? Back then, the devil worshipers convinced everyone this was a good reason to attack the white men, I mean the goyim, I mean the Germans.

Wait a minute, this IS an act of WAR. Nothing else. THIS IS AN OUTRIGHT ACT OF WAR AGAINST TURKEY. On the high seas, each vessel is considered a piece of the country whose flag she is flying. NO ONE is allowed to board another vessel uninvited. NO ONE. NEVER. This is the same as breaking and entering on land.

The devil worshipers are trying to claim "we were being attacked! We have the right to "defend" ourselves" as is their usual story when they attack others. This is their story every time. Until all of you realize these are people that worship THE FATHER OF LIES, just like Jesus told them. Their slogan is "by deception shall you make war" ......this means they are telling us all right to our faces that "WE ARE LIARS AND WE WORSHIP THE FATHER OF LIES. THEIR IS NO TRUTH IN US."

if you believe any of their spin on anything, you are a fool. They even TELL you they are lying, and they laugh at you in derision when you believe them. The biggest lie is the myth of "Judeo-Christian" crap. Trying to convince everyone that their devil worship has anything to do with the Christian religion is the BIG LIE. The Old Testament is worshiping Satan. The New Testament is worshiping Christ. See the difference?

They are devil worshipers. The sooner everyone realizes this the better. They need to be exterminated, to the third generation at least. They will be, sooner or later.....

Obviously no one on this board is in the Navy or the Merchant Marine, or any armed forces for that matter, if you think some sticks and marbles are "weapons" and when weilded by flabby teenagers.are "well armed mercenaries".

Yeah, usually when I am expecting to be attacked by soldiers with machine guns, I stock up on freaking marbles to repel them. And for heavy artillery, I steal my nephews homemade slingshot for DEADLY FORCE. Yeah. And I put on some body armor disguised as a kapok lifejacket. Yeah that's the ticket.

Anon, as always you are on the money!

Oh my gosh! every single one of you
tearing this thread apart by going after the OP, needs to go cool off in BTS for a while.

If you think you make a stronger case by personally attacking the OP, you don't.! You only serve to reveal your character flaws in that you are not mature enough to discuss an important topic with someone who has a different opinion.

The Facts are: Not a single one of us was on board that night! All the shoulda,woulda, coulda, does not change the fact that we were not there. Everything we have seen and heard about the actual events cannot be proven fact yet!

I do tend to believe the video footage. That is my opinion and guess what it is not right or wrong. It is simply just an opinion and we are all entitled to have one.

Could everyone just chill for a bit?

Thanks again for bringing more info. to this story,

Pax

reply to post by CaptChaos


Hey Capt! Give it a rest!!! All you are doing is rambling some rhetoric, and throwing the words "Devil Worshipers this, and Devil Worshipers that" you are not making sense!

Yeah we get it, your for the Gaza and Damn the Israeli's yada,yada,yada!

What is your point with your rant, other than you are a very angry person?

Hamas is lower than dirt.

I've seen so many videos of them yanking up young children to use them as human shields while they cross the street. It's obvious they just don't care about the people of Gaza.
Hamas - uses innocents as shields

Get rid of Hamas and Gaza might flourish.

reply to post by paxnatus


Gee I wonder how many Jews would have been left in Europe by the time Hitler had finished if we all thought like you.

" Condemnation is bad. Dont judge and certainly dont act "

Are you crazy ??????

All Israelis should wake up every morning a thank God there are people who will condemn evil, and be willing to fight it. And not just with words.

Originally posted by thedeadtruth
reply to post by paxnatus

 

Gee I wonder how many Jews would have been left in Europe by the time Hitler had finished if we all thought like you.

" Condemnation is bad. Dont judge and certainly dont act "

Are you crazy ??????

All Israelis should wake up every morning a thank God there are people who will condemn evil, and be willing to fight it. And not just with words.

What exactly are you talking about? If you are talking about the post I made which basically said focus your debate on the topic instead of attacking the poster, then no I'm not crazy.

i don't judge people based on an internet forum and their opinions, and I sure as hell don't act, while participating in a discussion. Let's by all means
condemn and judge by every piece of "news" the media shows us.

If you are talking about real life situation that is completely different .Of course I condemn evil! Comparing Hitler and the Holocaust to a discussion about what happened when Israeli's boarded a so called humanitarian ship on its way to Gaza, is ridiculous, and illogical. We have facts about the Holocaust, we don't know the facts yet what happened on that ship.

I personally think Israel did the right thing. Hamas is a terrorist group, in my opinion and I believe they are evil!

Please explain your comment.

Pax

This pic pretty much sums it up.

ooops.
double post.

[edit on 6-6-2010 by Alxandro]

Amazing isn't it, this all happens because of Religious believes.

I'm not surprised God doesn't show himself anymore, he did his best and this is what he gets in return...... Humans de-evolving into Baboons

Nice

Originally posted by ken10
reply to post by anon72

 

Ask yourself this,
In the first vid you post, WHY isn't the footage continuous ?
Why is it a vid made up of sections ?
Why would anyone do that ?
Sorry i won't look past the first vid.......We know what happened to the flotilla.
Don't fall for the BS

Because that is not the raw video. Israel has not released the raw video but only heavily edited videos with added twist of their own versions. Read about it more here How Israeli propaganda shaped U.S. media coverage of the flotilla attack