2012 A lie and Obama the last Elected US President

2012 is something that I have yet to truly believe as a day of the end...I have found a very compelling self proclaimed co-prophet (I have yet to find him saying crazy stuff without evidence and he DOES NOT claim and make prophecies but rather interprests the ones we have from the Bible) That speaks of it being around 2017. He also does not believe Barack *IS* the Antichrist like tons of people do claim

Barack IS NOT the Antichrist
www.youtube.com...

Extra explanations of above
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His election fulfills key prophecy that occurs before WW3
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When will Obama start WW3
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America after WW3
www.youtube.com...

I am not banking on this and saying all should heed it....Even William Tapley says he only concludes that his times are accurate to the year and season.

What do you think?



[edit on 2-6-2010 by Dennislp3]

Jeane Dixon once proclaimed the world would end in 2004, or was it 2007? I don't remember, exactly. End of the world is what she said, though.

Later she proclaimed that sometime around 2000-2037 China would take over the world but would eventually be defeated.

Meh.

2012? Nope. The world won't end. Trust me, I am a psychic/astrologer/prophet.

But. could the world we know now end? Good golly jehosphat! I hope so!
Then again, oops, it could be worse.

Nobody knows. Even Jesus is alledged to say that even HE doesn't know. And he is written about to have a special connection to God. In fact, some people even claim he is God! Man, even God doesn't know.

I knew a guy who held no claims to be a prophet, nor a shaman. However, in 1975, by tossing 5 nickels upon my kitchen table, proclaimed that I would father 3 girls. No boys, no extra girls. Just three girls. Well, his prediction came true. Would I ask him what I should do tomorrow? Nope. He was just wrong on so many other things.

Maybe the guy had a special connection with the universe that particular evening, or not.

But, OP, if this person you know is correct all the time? Woohoo! I'd like to meet him and talk.

No, Obama is not the anti-christ, nor was Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, GHWB, etc. I will believe in the anti-christ when I see 42 straight months of peace in the world. And if I see that? I will run away!!!!!!!!! Cuz that ain't gonna be good, according to Revelation.

You seem to assume i said he knows exactly when...and he did not. I posted the videos for a reason...so HE could speak for himself.

You also seem to think I said he was never wrong....I merely stated that *I* did not find him saying anything wrong....the guy has about 180 vids on youtube...flip through em if these are not enough.

Would also help if you watched the videos before posting on the thread

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While he does take some leaps and freedoms with reference to the Book of Daniel and what the various beasts and horns signfy, I found his numerology references pretty convincing. I had never heard many of the times mentioned and how they play into biblical prophecy (Luther, Fatima etc).
Thanks for posting this, I found it very interesting if somewhat scary. If he is right we are in the last months before WW3 erupts. Somehow that wouldn't really surprise me at all.

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Originally posted by Asktheanimals
While he does take some leaps and freedoms with reference to the Book of Daniel and what the various beasts and horns signfy, I found his numerology references pretty convincing. I had never heard many of the times mentioned and how they play into biblical prophecy (Luther, Fatima etc).
Thanks for posting this, I found it very interesting if somewhat scary. If he is right we are in the last months before WW3 erupts. Somehow that wouldn't really surprise me at all.

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I would also encourage you to look at his youtube page ( www.youtube.com... )....he has TONS of videos pointing out WAY more than I have posted here. He does not make claims that he does not support with biblical and historical things, he often uses *BIBLICAL* (not occult) numerology, and does not make any claims of 100% truth...HE HIMSELF explains that he is only in the ballpark and HE HIMSELF says he wishes and hopes he is wrong

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This is the guy that claims that if you use contraception will prevent you from being raptured!

Okey dokey.

Yes I am not sure about that one myself. Regardless i think some of his stuff is interesting and a different view of things....certainly and a bit leery as to the credibility of it all and that is fine...I am not banking anything on him...merely throwing his stuff out there with all the other 2012/end time predictions/prophecies

Originally posted by stereologist
This is the guy that claims that if you use contraception will prevent you from being raptured!

Okey dokey.

Best laugh of the day vote from me

I hope Im the only one who read that as Raptured - visions of Geoff Goldblum running round jurassic park with a condom over his head.


Sorry to derail the thread but as its another of the "end of the world is nigh" threads im not sure I care

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I still say the rapture could be a fleet of UFO's beaming a selected few out before the danger hits us. This can be plausible if you believe in the anunnaki theory. I don't believe the fact your soul just can't leave the body at will. It goes against the laws of the spiritual realm and reality.

But the videos have some good points and I am a little sketchy on numerology.

Originally posted by Dennislp3
2012 is something that I have yet to truly believe as a day of the end...I have found a very compelling self proclaimed co-prophet (I have yet to find him saying crazy stuff without evidence and he DOES NOT claim and make prophecies but rather interprests the ones we have from the Bible)
[edit on 2-6-2010 by Dennislp3]

He seems to claim to be a literal figure ("Third Eagle of the Apocalypse and Co-Prophet of the End Times") out of the book of Revelation.

Whether he is the Antichrist or simply another antichrist, Obama scares to me the point where I'm putting away canned food. Especially since the BP Gulf oil disaster sounds so much like Rev. 8:8-9.



[edit on 13-6-2010 by Ian the Christian]

This is nothing but a disguised birther rambling. "Obama is the King of The South because his father was born in Kenya. Obama was too, but he won't admit this."

Is this guy serious? He is a birther too, because the Book of Daniel told him? (and I thought I had way too much time on my hands)

Obama is not the Antichrist, let us forget that I don't think he is or ever well be popular enough... but the Fact is the Antichrist well have to be a Hebrew. So unless he survives a head wound, he is not it. plus their is nothing to say, That America well even be a part of the tribulation.

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Obama rhymes with osama.

Funny... I actually watched a lot of these guys videos and he sent me a FREE book. It's actually well written and very interesting..

Originally posted by CanadianDream420
Funny... I actually watched a lot of these guys videos and he sent me a FREE book. It's actually well written and very interesting..

Yeah, I once remarked that he should not call himself "Prophet" and that there are no more Prophets (appointed by God) after Muhammad.
His answer was: Muhammad is not a Prophet!

Haha, no other comment, just that.


Well, he analyzes many things, and murals in Den. Airport and stuff - but he is not the first to mention that, although his readers seem to not know that.

Also sometimes he just seems to form "connections" out of thin air - like when he counted some words mentioned in verses - where he wanted to e.g. to always come to number 5 - so he arbitrarily counts objects mentioned in one verse (like: chair, table, ...) - and there are 5 objects - in the next verse he counts objects again - and AGAIN there are 5 objects - but he "forgets" to count all of them (he ignores many more objects mentioned in the verse) ...

It seems he starts with a supposition, then he builds his argument around that, trying to make them compatible with his supposition at any cost.

But one should not start like that. One should start by saying: OK, lets see if there is some prophecy in this book. Then read the book objectively, without any supposition. The results would be very different.

Anyway, he is somehow convinced that WW3 will start this year. But that is something many could conclude without the help of prophetic books - I too think WW3, or at least some sort of bigger conflict can start in the ME - but that is based on the simple facts about the situation developing in the ME at the moment.

Originally posted by Target Earth
...but the Fact is the Antichrist well have to be a Hebrew.

Christian tradition says the Antichrist is of the tribe of Dan, which is one of the lost tribes of Israel, lost among the Gentiles.

Originally posted by skajkingdom
Yeah, I once remarked that he should not call himself "Prophet" and that there are no more Prophets (appointed by God) after Muhammad.
His answer was: Muhammad is not a Prophet!

Haha, no other comment, just that.

That is the only orthodox Christian response, just as no orthodox Muslim would accept that Jesus is God incarnate.

Originally posted by skajkingdom
Anyway, he is somehow convinced that WW3 will start this year. But that is something many could conclude without the help of prophetic books - I too think WW3, or at least some sort of bigger conflict can start in the ME - but that is based on the simple facts about the situation developing in the ME at the moment.

The period around the Total Solar Eclipse of 2010 July 11:
eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov...

to about the 20th (9th of Av, 1st and 2nd Temples destroyed on that date) would be an interesting time period for a war to start.

Originally posted by Ian the Christian

That is the only orthodox Christian response, just as no orthodox Muslim would accept that Jesus is God incarnate.

And why would that be? Jesus never said there would be no prophets after him. No NT scriptures say this. In fact, relying on probably original arameic sayings, Jesus pretty much said that the "praised one" will come = which in arameic just like arabic is AHMD, or Ahmad (Muhammad).
An no, he wasnt talking about the Holy Spirit, but about a living person (man).


Anyaway, it is simply rude to answer like that, without even considering it, or providing counter-arguments or whatever. basically his answer said "Muhammad was not a prophet. Now shut up. I know. You don't".

[edit on 6/14/2010 by skajkingdom]

Originally posted by skajkingdom

Originally posted by Ian the Christian

That is the only orthodox Christian response, just as no orthodox Muslim would accept that Jesus is God incarnate.

And why would that be? Jesus never said there would be no prophets after him. No NT scriptures say this. In fact, relying on probably original arameic sayings, Jesus pretty much said that the "praised one" will come = which in arameic just like arabic is AHMD, or Ahmad (Muhammad).
An no, he wasnt talking about the Holy Spirit, but about a living person (man).


Anyaway, it is simply rude to answer like that, without even considering it, or providing counter-arguments or whatever. basically his answer said "Muhammad was not a prophet. Now shut up. I know. You don't".

Actually, he was probably just being polite, if he went farther he'd have to get into why Muhammad wasn't from God, which is what you're about to make me to do with your Muslim apologetics.

[edit on 14-6-2010 by Ian the Christian]

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He doesn't say crazy stuff but interprets stuff from the bible?

So he doesn't actually say crazy stuff, he just tells us what the crazy stuff that's written down means......

The Bible is not proof of anything except that science fiction and fantasy writers have been around for thousands of years!