Chemtrailers: Your time is NOW!

reply to post by GobbledokTChipeater


I don’t think so, it falls under things like fiction, or products that do not really perform they way they are supposed too (buyer beware). Very seldom do they seem to get prosecuted, and then only when it’s outright fraud or causes substantial harm.

Another problem is that there is tons of old crap on the net that is never taken down when its proven to be wrong or even an outright hoax. So you shoot it down this week, and next week someone else is posting it again as though its biblical truth.

It is not as simple as it sounds.

Any good conspiracy is controlled by those who have thought of such measures.

EVEN if you got the funding and resources together to have an aircraft capable to fly up to 30000-50000ft where the "CHEMTRAIL" activity would take place, that airspace is highly controlled and aircraft must follow a flight plan and IFR (instrument flight rules) airway route. They most likely would not find an Air Traffic Controller willing to grant a flight to go scoop tailpipe from a government controlled aircraft.

CLEARANCE DENIED.

So you see Chadwickus..... its just not that easy. E

EVEN if you did finally get a clearance , by then the flights could be informed and/or rerouted. There are so many holes in your attempt... you attempt to force upon the ATS community the false choice : "if you cant get a sample then chemtrails do not exist...." A poor attempt to close the book on the chemtrail conspiracy.

Originally posted by AllSeeingI
It is not as simple as it sounds.

Any good conspiracy is controlled by those who have thought of such measures.

EVEN if you got the funding and resources together to have an aircraft capable to fly up to 30000-50000ft where the "CHEMTRAIL" activity would take place, that airspace is highly controlled and aircraft must follow a flight plan and IFR (instrument flight rules) airway route. They most likely would not find an Air Traffic Controller willing to grant a flight to go scoop tailpipe from a government controlled aircraft.

CLEARANCE DENIED.

So you see Chadwickus..... its just not that easy. E

EVEN if you did finally get a clearance , by then the flights could be informed and/or rerouted. There are so many holes in your attempt... you attempt to force upon the ATS community the false choice : "if you cant get a sample then chemtrails do not exist...." A poor attempt to close the book on the chemtrail conspiracy.

AllSeeingI.....

CLEARANCE DENIED

Well, I guess we're just all finished.....

It's impossible!

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[edit on 29-5-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]

reply to post by GobbledokTChipeater

There are millions of hucksters selling millions of types of snake oil. They will always be there and they will always have customers. No matter what, people will tend to believe what they want to believe when it's handed to them on a platter. Some will put the effort into really looking into two (or more) sides of an issue and others will not.

I have a good understanding of meteorology. I like to think I have a rational point of view. The combination leads me to the conclusion that, in spite of the "evidence" presented by chemtrailers, there is no reason to believe that contrails are anything other than contrails.


[edit on 5/29/2010 by Phage]

Originally posted by Phage

There are millions of hucksters selling millions of types of snake oil. They will always be there and they will always have customers.

But they are harmful Phagie, aren't they? Surely a judge wouldn't have a problem stopping harmful people.

Originally posted by Phage

Some will put the effort into really looking into two (or more) sides of an issue and others will not.

I have a good understanding of meteorology. I like to think I have a rational point of view.

I like to think I have a rational point of view, also. With your meteorology understanding, you can show that contrails exist naturally and they have for decades. You can also show that contrails can spread out under the right conditions. I agree.

Originally posted by Phage

The combination leads me to the conclusion that, in spite of the "evidence" presented by chemtrailers, there is no reason to believe than contrails are anything other than contrails.

And that is your prerogative. You are allowed to believe in anything you want.

reply to post by GobbledokTChipeater


There are people out there selling all kinds of alternate health stuff that is just as harmful, yet the government does little to stop them either.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by GobbledokTChipeater

 

There are millions of hucksters selling millions of types of snake oil. They will always be there and they will always have customers. No matter what, people will tend to believe what they want to believe when it's handed to them on a platter. Some will put the effort into really looking into two (or more) sides of an issue and others will not.

That reminds me of the Orgon energy chembuster, lol

What a hilarious scam that was!!!

Originally posted by defcon5
reply to post by GobbledokTChipeater

 

There are people out there selling all kinds of alternate health stuff that is just as harmful, yet the government does little to stop them either.

So in the end, nothing changes. The (apparently) harmful people will continue their "harmful" ways, people will keep believing what they want to believe, nobody's getting an air sample, and if anything is being sprayed into the sky, it will continue to be sprayed.

What a waste of time this thread was.

reply to post by AllSeeingI


Sounds like a bunch of excuses to me.

Where there's a will, there's a way.

reply to post by GobbledokTChipeater

From that point of view, wouldn't most conversations be a waste of time?

Originally posted by Phage

From that point of view, wouldn't most conversations be a waste of time?

Most conversations aren't centered around somebody attempting to get somebody else to collect an air sample.

Originally posted by GobbledokTChipeater
What a waste of time this thread was.

I agree.

It seems no matter what is presented to the chemtrailers, it's just not enough.

It's almost as if they WANT chemtrails to be real.

reply to post by GobbledokTChipeater

Oh.
Ok. Then what specific topic are most conversations centered on?

Originally posted by Chadwickus

I agree.

It seems no matter what is presented to the chemtrailers, it's just not enough.

It's almost as if they WANT chemtrails to be real.

No, I would say most people who believe in chemtrails, are genuinely concerned for other peoples health.

And, lets pretend for a minute they are spraying something into the atmosphere, it's more dangerous to believe they aren't, rather than they are.

[edit on 29/5/10 by GobbledokTChipeater]

Originally posted by Phage

Oh.
Ok. Then what specific topic are most conversations centered on?

Click

reply to post by GobbledokTChipeater

And, lets pretend for a minute they are spraying something into the atmosphere, it's more dangerous to believe they are, rather than they aren't.

You understand then. Good.

Originally posted by Phage

And, lets pretend for a minute they are spraying something into the atmosphere, it's more dangerous to believe they are, rather than they aren't.

You understand then. Good.

Simple brainfart/typo. Fixed now

reply to post by GobbledokTChipeater

You know what Freud said about that kind of thing, right?

Originally posted by Phage

You know what Freud said about that kind of thing, right?

yeeeeees phage, I subconsciously think believing in chemtrails is dangerous, you've seen right through me