The most important question. Are they hostile? NO!

I believe they are after our human bodies and want to clone us.

Until they achieve that they sneak around and extort our governments with their hightech.

I see them as demons.

Originally posted by Gaussq
I believe they are after our human bodies and want to clone us.

Until they achieve that they sneak around and extort our governments with their hightech.

I see them as demons.

You would be surprised.. in most cases "they" ARE our government.

so what you are saying is they aren't hostile? but they are quite like us as in giving the ability TO BE aggressive or peaceful?

Originally posted by Komodo
reply to post by seagull

 

Well, there are only 2 forces in the world.. those that want to kill, steal & Destroy and those that only want to give life..


is there really any more motives than that ??

How do you know that? There could be any number of philosophies amongst whatever lifeforms are Out There... Some we may understand, and some we will have no hope of understanding...

To say, with certainty, what we expect to find/discover, or what ever may discover us...is foolish, and may lead to that very hostility some so fear. We can not know what's Out There, simply because we aren't Out There yet.

reply to post by Luke Idea


Isn't the most important question what are UFOs and where do they come from?

British diplomat Gordon Creighton makes some interesting comments in this clip:

Anyone heard this theory(they came from prehistoric civilizations and are the remnants of these civilizations):

Master Li Hongzhi, founder of Falun Gong, explains here what the aliens are trying to do.

www.rickross.com...

Full article is linked above. It was done in 1999.


Time: Why does chaos reign now?
Li: Of course there is not just one reason. The biggest cause of society's change today is that people no longer believe in orthodox religion.They go to church, but they no longer believe in God. They feel free to do anything. The second reason is that since the beginning of this century, aliens have begun to invade the human mind and its ideology and culture.

Time: Where do they come from?
Li: The aliens come from other planets. The names that I use for these planets are different . Some are from dimensions that human beings have not yet discovered. The key is how they have corrupted mankind. Everyone knows that from the beginning until now, there has never been a development of culture like today. Although it has been several thousand years, it has never been like now.

The aliens have introduced modern machinery like computers and airplanes. They started by teaching mankind about modern science, so people believe more and more science, and spiritually, they are controlled. Everyone thinks that scientists invent on their own when in fact their inspiration is manipulated by the aliens. In terms of culture and spirit, they already control man. Mankind cannot live without science.

The ultimate purpose is to replace humans. If cloning human beings succeeds, the aliens can officially replace humans. Why does a corpse lie dead, even though it is the same as a living body? The difference is the soul, which is the life of the body. If people reproduce a human person, the gods in heaven will not give its body a human soul. The aliens will take that opportunity to replace the human soul and by doing so they will enter earth and become earthlings.

When such people grow up, they will help replace humans with aliens. They will produce more and more clones. There will no longer be humans reproduced by humans. They will act like humans, but they will introduce legislation to stop human reproduction.

Time: What are the aliens after?
Li: The aliens use many methods to keep people from freeing themselves from manipulation. They make earthlings have wars and conflicts, and develop weapons using science, which makes mankind more dependent on advanced science and technology. In this way, the aliens will be able to introduce their stuff and make the preparations for replacing human beings. The military industry leads other industries such as computers and electronics.

Time: But what is the alien purpose?
Li: The human body is the most perfect in the universe. It is the most perfect form. The aliens want the human body.

Time: What do aliens look like?
Li: Some look similar to human beings. U.S. technology has already detected some aliens. The difference between aliens can be quite enormous.

Time: Can you describe it?
Li: You don't want to have that kind of thought in your mind.

Time: Describe them anyway.
Li: One type looks like a human, but has a nose that is made of bone. Others look like ghosts. At first they thought that I was trying to help them. Now they now that I am sweeping them away.
______________________________

Now to the interesting part. How can you defeat them?

By learning Falun Gong´s self-cultivation of body and mind. It is hard for anyone to improve one´s character and virtue(xinxing) but it can be done.
The rewards are beyond anything I could imagine. Humans have an inborn potential way beyond any tech.


I use to say to sceptics. Go have a try with the exercises and read through the book. Then tell me what happened....

Sheep on the farm probably believe that the shepherd is their "Guardian Angel" sent by their "God", traditionally called "Pan", to show them to greener pastures. If interviewed the sheep would probably thus speak that the shepherd is not harming them. However, the sheep are oblivious of the slaughter house that is their destiny. It being a nightmare that they prefer to not dwell apon too much. Nor even know about. They just go on munching the pasture as is their psychosis. Humans have a similar psychosis as to that of the sheep. The fact that we human are no more than a herd of farm animal is a frightening truth that few care to think about. After all what can we do about the situation ? The aliens are in possession of extremely superior technology and comprehension. I advise that you all watch the movie THE FOURTH KIND before you sheepishly pretend the aliens to be our "friends from the stars" or as others might say our "Space Brothers". He who cannot transcend the terrestrial psychosis is just easy prey to the alien armada now proven to be surrounding this planet.

Human beings in the USA alone are going missing at the rate of 2,000,000 per year, of which those lost with out trace are missing at the astounding rate of 1000 per day. Many of them are children. That adds up to 356,000 gone with out trace per year. Over ten years that adds up to the astounding 3,560,000 missing with out trace. These are the residual number of missing persons who have not been traced. It is because of this frightening phenomenon that we must start to think as regard to what is this. Perhaps the video below will aid you in understanding what is going on.

Google Video Link

Google Video Link

"WE ONLY SEE WHAT WE BELIEVE IS POSSIBLE". So, according to this adage, persons who are not able to understand the higher dimensionality of the Cosmos, are thus not going to be disturbed by the higher dimensionality of the Cosmos. However, those who do understand the higher dimensionality of the Cosmos, are thus more likely to experience the higher dimensionality of the Cosmos. Just because one is not able to see and hear and touch the object or person, does not mean that others cannot see and hear and touch the object or person. Look long enough and one might also be able to see and hear and touch the object or person, even though to begin with the object or person was invisible to your perception of reality. In my comprehension of the Cosmos, I believe it to be the case that what we see as material reality, is not of our own choosing, but rather is entirely in the Hand of God. One is at the Mercy of God. It is the Power of God that is deciding our destiny. Buddhists call this the Law of Kharma. If you read the following book you will begin to understand the situation. "THE HOLOGRAPHIC UNIVERSE" by author MICHAEL TALBOT published 1991 by Harper Collins. ISBN 0-586-09171-8.

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Originally posted by CAELENIUM
Sheep on the farm probably believe that the shepherd is their "Guardian Angel" sent by their "God", traditionally called Pan, to show them to greener pastures. If interviewed the sheep would probably thus speak that the shepherd is not harming them. However, the sheep are oblivious of the slaughter house that is their destiny. It being a nightmare that they prefer to not dwell apon too much. Nor even know about. They just go on munching the pasture as is their psychosis. Humans have a similar psychosis as to that of the sheep. The fact that we human are no more than a herd of farm animal is a frightening truth that few care to think about. After all what can we do about the situation ? The aliens are in possession of extremely superior technology and comprehension. I advise that you all watch the movie THE FOURTH KIND before you sheepishly pretend the aliens to be our friends from the stars.

You have a very simplistic view of humanity. The 'humans are no better than sheep' argument is a completely fatuous and tedious cliché.

I assume you have completely missed all the news to come out of Thailand in the past month? Go and check it out and you'll see what sheep do when they're not happy.

That, of course, is just the most recent example of such un-sheepish behaviour, of which there are countless examples throughout history (indeed, on a small scale they occur every day).

P.S. The Forth Kind is a truly terrible film.

[edit on 23-5-2010 by FOXMULDER147]

the 4th kind got me thinking, if i were to walk outside, and the UFO was to land, open up and 2 aliens were to walk out...if i bowed down to them would they accept that i'm no threat?

Kronos, thats a pretty interesting response.

Of course, it has occurred to me that there may be intelligent life in our solar system, which may possibly be in some sense hostile.

Your idea of "solar system quarantining" is pretty cool IMO

But I doubt that their would be no intervention by the further developed beings, with the assumption they exist. It just seems reasonable that they could easily control such a situation if they had any concern whatsoever for the development of peaceful life (not that most of humanity is peaceful lol).

"to everyone else try to get the simple fact into your head, getting TAKEN outta your bed in the middle of the night. exploited. told nothing of any meaningful relevance as to why this is occurring. to call actions such as this anything but HOSTILE is a gross misrepresentation of the truth. they don't ask, they TAKE. "

And how do we presume to know who "they" are exactly?

Originally posted by kronos11

Originally posted by Gaussq
I believe they are after our human bodies and want to clone us.

Until they achieve that they sneak around and extort our governments with their hightech.

I see them as demons.

You would be surprised.. in most cases "they" ARE our government.

Where'd you hear this? Wikipedia?

I get kind of tired of people saying things as fact when in fact you have zero evidence, purely conspiracy based theories. It's always, ET's ARE the government. ET's DO have telepathy. ET's ARE evil. Where are the could be's? might haves? Gets boring reading this kind of rubbish.


As for the guy that said there are only 2 types of creatures, those who want to kill and those who want to give life... Why? Humans can do both, and your selling a highly advanced civilization with the capability of space travel kinda short, don't you think.

Why can so few people believe in the alien agenda:

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

Most people can not believe anything beyond the next veil because they can not see it.

reply to post by CAELENIUM
I believe they are here and have been for as long as we have if not longer but I am a realist and the second video wasn't real they are actors...

Are they hostile or not?
Is it painful or not?
Is it hot or not?
Is it loud or not?
Is it slow or not?

It's all a matter of ones perception and experience of that reality.

Just because some say 'they're' not hostile doesn't mean someone else's experience of them bodes the same way.

There's no right, wrong, hands-down or Carte Blanche description of how someone should experience something or someone.

Even Mahatma Gandhi wasn't 'loved' by all.
Again, it's a personal experience and a personal expression we all have and there's a reason for that too!

Here's the problem I have with your idea in the OP. It's borderline racist thinking. Your grouping all ET's together. You might as well say all mexicans are illegal immigrants or all blacks are criminals. You can't genarlize an entire race much less multiple races.

I'm sure there are good and bad out there. Just like with everything else in the Universe.

DrJay and OneMoment. You both make good points. I suppose it is reasonable to say there is probably a dark side to all this.

I'll admit I should say most rather than all.

Thanks

reply to post by DrJay1975


Exactly, thats what i have been saying before, some of them are hostile, some of them are not

Originally posted by Gaussq
Why can so few people believe in the alien agenda:

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

Most people can not believe anything beyond the next veil because they can not see it.

I'm not saying it's not true.

I just get sick of people saying IT IS TRUE when there is literally zero evidence.


Just because you can sit there and say "oh people are so blind they can't see beyond the next veil, so narrow minded" doesn't mean that you're some kind of enlightened person while we're all in the dark. It took no evidence to convince you of an Alien Agenda (mainly because there really is none) so I'd be skeptical about anything you say as it obviously doesn't take much to convince you of something.

Please watch the disturbing video which I insert below and realise that we are looking at what we human beings do to our fellow human beings. Then start to consider what an alien species would do to us. Obviously only the brain dead would think that the alien species would be intending to do us any favours what so ever.

Sheep on the farm probably believe that the shepherd is their "Guardian Angel" sent by their "God", traditionally called "Pan", to show them to greener pastures. If interviewed the sheep would probably thus speak that the shepherd is not harming them. However, the sheep are oblivious of the slaughter house that is their destiny. It being a nightmare that they prefer to not dwell apon too much. Nor even know about. They just go on munching the pasture as is their psychosis. Humans have a similar psychosis as to that of the sheep. The fact that we human are no more than a herd of farm animal is a frightening truth that few care to think about. After all what can we do about the situation ? The aliens are in possession of extremely superior technology and comprehension. I advise that you all watch the movie THE FOURTH KIND before you sheepishly pretend the aliens to be our "friends from the stars" or as others might say our "Space Brothers". He who cannot transcend the terrestrial psychosis is just easy prey to the alien armada now proven to be surrounding this planet.

Human beings in the USA alone are going missing at the rate of 2,000,000 per year, of which those lost with out trace are missing at the astounding rate of 1000 per day. Many of them are children. That adds up to 356,000 gone with out trace per year. Over ten years that adds up to the astounding 3,560,000 missing with out trace. These are the residual number of missing persons who have not been traced. It is because of this frightening phenomenon that we must start to think as regard to what is this. Perhaps the video below will aid you in understanding what is going on.

"WE ONLY SEE WHAT WE BELIEVE IS POSSIBLE". So, according to this adage, persons who are not able to understand the higher dimensionality of the Cosmos, are thus not going to be disturbed by the higher dimensionality of the Cosmos. However, those who do understand the higher dimensionality of the Cosmos, are thus more likely to experience the higher dimensionality of the Cosmos. Just because one is not able to see and hear and touch the object or person, does not mean that others cannot see and hear and touch the object or person. Look long enough and one might also be able to see and hear and touch the object or person, even though to begin with the object or person was invisible to your perception of reality. In my comprehension of the Cosmos, I believe it to be the case that what we see as material reality, is not of our own choosing, but rather is entirely in the Hand of God. One is at the Mercy of God. It is the Power of God that is deciding our destiny. Buddhists call this the Law of Kharma. If you read the following book you will begin to understand the situation. "THE HOLOGRAPHIC UNIVERSE" by author MICHAEL TALBOT published 1991 by Harper Collins. ISBN 0-586-09171-8.

Skipper in his report # 186 is addressing the "alien species being with us but not for us" issue in his own manner. Here is the link. >SKIPPER<

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