A REAL Cure For ALL Cancers! Capsaicin- Here's The Recipe...

Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
reply to post by SmokeandShadow

 

I'm not arguing that she recovered from her illness. I've seen patients knocking on death's door who made wonderful recoveries, despite all odds being against them. What this doesn't prove, though, is that she was turned away from Mayo and told 'we don't want to hear it'.

Its HER story not mine. You should give it a watch.

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Or, rather than subjecting myself to watching a documentary which, by all reviews I've read today show it is full of logical fallacies, misrepresentation, andf flat-out lies...why don't you just present your case? If this woman's story is true, surely there's a record of it.

Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
reply to post by SmokeandShadow

 

Or, rather than subjecting myself to watching a documentary which, by all reviews I've read today show it is full of logical fallacies, misrepresentation, andf flat-out lies...why don't you just present your case? If this woman's story is true, surely there's a record of it.

Ummmm...there is a record and you just shot it down? Not sure what to tell you man.

Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
reply to post by SmokeandShadow

 

Or, rather than subjecting myself to watching a documentary which, by all reviews I've read today show it is full of logical fallacies, misrepresentation, andf flat-out lies...why don't you just present your case? If this woman's story is true, surely there's a record of it.

On second thought...tell you what, if you watch the documentary and make a thread completely debunking "the beautiful truth" point by point, I will read it and, if you can, change my mind.

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So the only evidence of this event ever occuring is a biased documentary? The same documentary that claims Nazis planned to "mass-fluoridate" water sources to defeat their enemies (because, you know...the Nazis were going to wait around 75-100 years until their enemies just died of old age)? The same documentary that uses Kirlian photography, a well-known hoax tool, to show the "energy" in food?

THAT'S your source? Really?

My sister is in school to become a naturopathic doctor and I asked her about Capsaicin. She said that they learn about the properties of this miracle compound quite often, even stating that one of her profs can cure cancer (backing up your claim) with the compound. Looking on Wikipedia, Capsaicin can do a lot more than cure cancer. It is used for arthritis, diabetes, and psoriasis.

See wiki article here: en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by SmokeandShadow

Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
reply to post by SmokeandShadow

 

Or, rather than subjecting myself to watching a documentary which, by all reviews I've read today show it is full of logical fallacies, misrepresentation, andf flat-out lies...why don't you just present your case? If this woman's story is true, surely there's a record of it.

On second thought...tell you what, if you watch the documentary and make a thread completely debunking "the beautiful truth" point by point, I will read it and, if you can, change my mind.

I just might take you up on that. I have a short vacation coming up on May 26. Could you send me a U2U right now so that I'll have a reminder to watch the documentary?

reply to post by VneZonyDostupa


Hey now, the photography aspect has little to do with cancer treatments. That is a straw man and its not like they were looking at human "auras" or anything.

reply to post by SmokeandShadow


If they're willing to lie about one thing (that the photography shows the "energy" of the food), why wouldn't they be willing to lie about other things?

Also, I just found that I can watch the documentary as a streaming video through my Netflix account. I may try to watch it tomorrow night, but I'm on call so I may have to watch it in parts. I'll try to take a few notes while I watch and then form them into a post for you. Deal?

Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa

Originally posted by SmokeandShadow

Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
reply to post by SmokeandShadow

 

Or, rather than subjecting myself to watching a documentary which, by all reviews I've read today show it is full of logical fallacies, misrepresentation, andf flat-out lies...why don't you just present your case? If this woman's story is true, surely there's a record of it.

On second thought...tell you what, if you watch the documentary and make a thread completely debunking "the beautiful truth" point by point, I will read it and, if you can, change my mind.

I just might take you up on that. I have a short vacation coming up on May 26. Could you send me a U2U right now so that I'll have a reminder to watch the documentary?

Sure, I don't don't know how though haha.

To the other poster that said capsaicin was only found to shrink prostate cancer you are WRONG! Sorry about your daughter but you obviously haven't done all the research you've claimed or you would have known that.

Another study carried out at the University of Nottingham suggests capsaicin is able to trigger apoptosis in human lung cancer cells as well

Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
reply to post by SmokeandShadow

 

If they're willing to lie about one thing (that the photography shows the "energy" of the food), why wouldn't they be willing to lie about other things?

Also, I just found that I can watch the documentary as a streaming video through my Netflix account. I may try to watch it tomorrow night, but I'm on call so I may have to watch it in parts. I'll try to take a few notes while I watch and then form them into a post for you. Deal?

That is a deal friend. Though that argument is the reason many don't trust anything the government says.

Here is a website that covers what Cayenne Pepper can do. Cayenne is the king of all herbs.

www.cayennepepper.info...

Their are many other options you can check out also.

cancertutor.com...

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Who says I trust the government? The government has little to do with new drug discovery, and I would wager than 99.9% of the people working in the government know little to nothing about the nature of research. If someone discovered a wonder-drug, it wouldn't be an isolated, secretive event. It would involve collaboration with many other labs and would also involve dozens of researchers. Even the most mundane research follows this pattern.

When an entire lab goes missing, along with other labs in other parts of the nation, then we'll talk. Until then, I don't see how anyone with an understanding of how medical research works could claim that there is a cover-up.

Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
reply to post by warequalsmurder

 

I'm not talking about THIS website, War. I'm talking about the dozens, if not hundreds, of links to information on "cures" that are posted here monthly. I mean, seriously. Do a search for "rife" or even "urine therapy" and you'll get hundreds and hundreds of sites. If the government and pharmaceutical companies were the leas bit worried...why do they let these sites exist? Why do they allow them to be continually updated?

Simple: because these snake-oil "cures" on the internet don't work.

Or it could be that our government still has to maintain a small illusion of freedom. Shutting this site or all of the others would help shatter that illusion. China does this regularly and makes no claims to be a free society as most of the western governments do.

Now, I might be inclined to agree with the snake-oil cure pitch and can respect that legitimate concern that your giving here if it were not for the simple fact that those people got up and gave their testimonies on Run From The Cure with there being no financial gain. Richard Simpson tells the Youtube audience how to make it for themselves. He sells no Hemp Oil. The element of no financial gain cancels out the snake-oil cure possibility....Think about it.

You and I have argued before. I came to a striking realization during that argument too when I realized that you were arguing for the benefits of Western Medical trauma success and in this regard you were right. I on the other hand was arguing against the failures of Western Medical practices towards Chronic conditions and in this respect I feel that I made my good points in that regard.

It appears to me that Alternative medicine seems to be offering much better solutions to chronic (Cancer, heart disease, etc.) conditions than Western Medicine has thus far been able to embrace due to its political, industrial, and financial restrictions.

I do not believe that Western Medicine should be thrown out with the bath water though. I believe that it is time that Western Medicine was allowed to embrace Alternative Medicine with the complete exclusion of the Pharmaceutical/and or Insurance industry who have been allowed to hijack the Medical profession.

Western Medicine has had over a hundred years to figure out a way to beat cancer. If we want to get technical than we can say that man has been surgically fighting cancer since 1600 B.C.. It has thus far to a great extent failed.

It is time to allow new ways of thinking and treatment. Because the ultimate goal is to cure the patient and not to get side tracked by protecting a way of thinking. And not to treat the patient as if they were a small child who has no other alternative. There are alternatives now.

These people are offering that alternative and they deserve to be heard and given a chance seeming how there is no evidence that people like Richard Simpson are hurting, scamming, or stealing from those who try Hemp Oil. Thus far there is some very happy people that gave up chemotherapy to watch their symptom and side effects vanish. I choose to believe these people when they say that Hemp Oil cured them because there is no evidence for deception here.

I will use a Hospital if I'm run over by a car as you suggested. Sadly it might just bankrupt me in order to do it. But I will also use Hemp Oil too if I'm diagnosed with cancer rather than Chemotherapy.
The same goes for Colloidal Silver, Garlic, etc. It is my body and my right.

I will use all proven methods available to me because my mind is open and I listen to my inner voice rather than what an indoctrinated doctor (this is not leveled at you) tells me I should do. I am the keeper of my body, nobody else has that right. And nobody has the right to suppress my choices or access to those choices.

reply to post by VneZonyDostupa


Hi/Low again,

Just so you may realize that cancer cures do exist outside of standard treatment, check these out:

Topical nicotinamide (niacinamide) has demonstrable preventive activity against photocarcinogenesis in mice. To better understand how this vitamin prevents ultraviolet (UV) carcinogenesis, we tested systemic administration of another form of the vitamin, niacin, and its capacity to elevate cutaneous nicotinamide-adenine dinucleotide (NAD) content as well as to decrease photoimmunosuppression and photocarcinogenesis. BALB/cAnNTacfBR mice were fed the AIN-76A diet supplemented with 0%, 0.1%, 0.5%, or 1.0% niacin throughout the experiment. UV irradiation consisted of five 30-minute exposures per week to banks of six FS40 Westinghouse sunlamps for 22 weeks in the carcinogenesis experiments, yielding a total cumulative dose of approximately 1.41 times 106 Jm2of UV-B radiation. Dietary supplementation with 0.1%, 0.5%, or 1.0% niacin reduced the control incidence of skin cancer from 68% to 60%, 48%, and 28%, respectively, at 26.5 weeks after the first UV treatment. Two potential mechanisms by which niacin prevents tumor formation were identified. Photoimmunosuppression, critical for photocarcinogenesis, is measured by a passive transfer assay. Syngeneic, antigenic tumor challenges grew to an average of 91.6 ± 19.7, 79.8 ± 11.5, 41.9 ± 11.7, or 13.2 ± 4.1 mm2 in naive recipients of splenocytes from UV-irradiated mice treated with 0%, 0.1%, 0.5%, or 1.0% niacin supplementation, respectively, demonstrating niacin prevention of immunosuppression. Niacin supplementation elevated skin NAD content, which is known to modulate the function of DNA strand scission surveillance proteins p53 and poly(ADP-ribose) polymerase, two proteins critical in cellular responses to UV-induced DNA damage. These results clearly demonstrate a dose-dependent preventive effect of oral niacin on photocarcinogenesis and photoimmunosuppression and establish the capacity of oral niacin to elevate skin NAD levels.

Linky

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The dietary status of niacin (vitamin B3) has the potential to influence DNA repair, genomic stability, and the immune system, eventually having an impact on cancer risk, as well as the side effects of chemotherapy in the cancer patient. In addition to its well-known redox functions in energy metabolism, niacin, in the form of NAD, participates in a wide variety of ADP-ribosylation reactions.Poly(ADP-ribose) is a negatively charged polymer synthesized, predominantly on nuclear proteins, by at least seven different enzymes. Poly(ADP-ribose) polymerase-1 (PARP-1) is responsible for the majority of polymer synthesis and plays important roles in DNA damage responses, including repair, maintenance of genomic stability, and signaling events for stress responses such as apoptosis. NAD is also used in the synthesis of mono(ADP-ribose), often on G proteins, with poorly understood roles in signal transduction. Last, NAD and NADP are required for the synthesis of cyclic ADP-ribose and nicotinic acid adenine dinucleotide (NAADP), two mediators of intracellular calcium signaling pathways. Disruption of any of these processes has the potential to impairgenomic stability and deregulate cell division, leading to enhanced cancer risk. There are various sources of evidence that niacin status does have an impact on cancer risk, including animal models of leukemogenesis and skin cancer, as well as epidemiological data from human populations.

Linky

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A deficiency of any of the micronutrients: folic acid, Vitamin B12, Vitamin B6, niacin, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, iron, or zinc, mimics radiation in damaging DNA by causing single- and double-strand breaks, oxidative lesions, or both. For example, the percentage of the US population that has a low intake (20%. A level of folate deficiency causing chromosome breaks was present in approximately 10% of the US population, and in a much higher percentage of the poor. Folate deficiency causes extensive incorporation of uracil into human DNA (4 million/cell), leading to chromosomal breaks. This mechanism is the likely cause of the increased colon cancer risk associated with low folate intake. Some evidence, and mechanistic considerations, suggest that Vitamin B12 (14% US elderly) and B6 (10% of US) deficiencies also cause high uracil and chromosome breaks. Micronutrient deficiency may explain, in good part, why the quarter of the population that eats the fewest fruits and vegetables (five portions a day is advised) has about double the cancer rate for most types of cancer when compared to the quarter with the highest intake. For example, 80% of American children and adolescents and 68% of adults do not eat five portions a day. Common micronutrient deficiencies are likely to damage DNA by the same mechanism as radiation and many chemicals, appear to be orders of magnitude more important, and should be compared for perspective. Remedying micronutrient deficiencies should lead to a major improvement in health and an increase in longevity at low cost.

Linky


So clearly, diet plays a role in the prevention, formation, and treatment options of cancer.

Eat your organic & locally grown fruits and veggies, kids. I personally take much higher than RDA doses of niacin and ascorbic acid for general health and preventative measures.

[edit on 18-5-2010 by unityemissions]

Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
reply to post by warequalsmurder

 

I'm not talking about THIS website, War. I'm talking about the dozens, if not hundreds, of links to information on "cures" that are posted here monthly. I mean, seriously. Do a search for "rife" or even "urine therapy" and you'll get hundreds and hundreds of sites. If the government and pharmaceutical companies were the leas bit worried...why do they let these sites exist? Why do they allow them to be continually updated?

Simple: because these snake-oil "cures" on the internet don't work.

Treating cancer and chemo/radiation therapy is BIG business. Curing cancer or having people cure their own cancer is not. Their is a mass of scientific studies that show huge potentials and cancer curing in animals but because they use natural products which can't be patented, even if the pharmas wanted a cure (they don't), there is no funding to take it much further. Not to mention the fact that cannabis (Rick Simpson's hemp oil really does work) remains illegal and is being kept illegal with funding not only coming from tobacco and alcohol companies but pharma companies too. Rick Simpson has taken masses of evidence and cases to the Canadian cancer foundation and they don't want to know him. No body in the industry is interested in a cure because it would cost a lot of jobs and a lot of money and sadly it is money that makes the world go round.

The typical person believes whatever the MSM tells him to believe, therefore this is the only source of information that really needs to be controlled. Hundreds of small websites are barely a drop in the ocean compared with the power of the MSM. It is human nature to ridicule those with beliefs that vastly differ from the beliefs of the majority. If you walk up to the average person and inform them that an alternative cure for cancer exists and has been known about for some time they will think you are mad. Their mind will not even allow them to seriously consider the possibility of what you said being true because the mind is designed to reinforce its existing beliefs and filter/disregard/discredit any (even credible) information that contradicts those beliefs. It is far easier to control the masses than most people think. TV just does everyone's thinking for them.

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No one is preventing them from being heard. I just went to Amazon.com and searched for "herbal remedies", and do you know how many books I got as a result? 3,514 books.

I then searched for "rife": 391 books.

For " cancer cure": 711 books.

How many books on the topic do you need to have available to you before it's not being suppressed anymore? Five thousand? Ten thousand? One hundreds thousand?

If the information is out there in books, Youtube, and the rest of the internet, and if the cures are "cheap and effective", why do you not have stellar recovery rates from cancer, TB, lupus, and any other disease they claim to cure? Why is India, one of the founders of many alternative therapies, demanding more Western-trained physicians?

[edit on 5/18/2010 by VneZonyDostupa]

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My mother had B Cell Lymphoma, stage 4. They drained 3 liters of fluid from the cavity where her left lung should be (it was collapsed). She started Rituxin and CHOP, taking a total of 6 doses. During this same time we began eat lots of freshly made foods with fresh ingredients (she decided that if she was to go, she would eat as good as she could and enjoy it). When they gave her the "clear", they told her to expect recurrence in 18 months.

here we are 3 years later. Still no issues. She is going strong. She cannot move a refridgerator anymore by herself, but what do you expect at 60?

Ingredients in every dish that I make:

clarified butter
fresh serrano/jalapeno or powdered cayenne
fresh garlic (i buy heads of garlic like you wouldn't believe. i bet i stink)

The ingredients you list are my "trinity". Since i cook for my mother all the time (we have regular Sunday dinners with my family over there) she has started using ingredients i use in her cooking.

Not saying the OP is right. Just sharing our story. I don't care why she is still with me. I am just extremely grateful.

truly the most amazing hting. But i am amazed about the candian reasercher, why would the gov't shut her down.