Its not about Freedom, its about the MONEY!

All my OP is going to be suggesting, that if money is being made on anything, then it is not about the truth and freedom, because everyone wants to be rich and think that in being rich it will solve everything.... How will there ever be a unity where everyone is equal if this mind frame is contained....

The internet... its there, technology was used, its been made, why do we have to pay for bandwidth...

Cellphones, its there, technology was used, its been made, why pay for minutes...
I have a $1700 cellphone but still have to pay for airtime, crazy dont you think..

Television, its there, technology was used, its been made, Why pay a tv licence...
there should be no competition, and everyone around the world should have access to every T.V channel, in my country we have 4 stations, i mean please.... and the exra channels that are avaible cost Somewhere in the region of a $80 dollars a month.

Open air signal... we shouldnt have to pay for something that is invisible....

But rather a once of charge for the decoder...

These are all things that should be free and not chared for, on the other hand it is one way of keeping us in the rat race.

Where is freedom if we have to pay for everything, if anyoneelse agrees with me please post your views and other things that should be free and not charged on a monthly rate..

www.youtube.com...


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As long as the human element is in society there will be corruption and greed. It's unfortunate that we cant have these things, because we should have the right to communicate without having to pay a fee. It really just comes down to how materialistic people as a whole are and how much currency holds a grasp on what we do.

Also with television you should have the power to block commercials. Your already paying for it you should have ultimate control on what flows to you. Ex. You don't hear a commercial break or advertisement during your cellphone call. " We interrupt your call for a quick commercial break, Don't forget to enjoy the fresh lasting buzz of ATS-Cola!...Now back to your phone call"

Also I would like to see a cashless chipless system. We are bound by one common goal to survive it just happens people got lazy and became royalty and made everyone else do their dirty work to live!

Slave labour, physical and economical is rampant throughout every corner of our Earth.

But this is why we see an unstable world. We will not last much longer living as such and there will be a change of sorts. A correction. It's just from the majority of people whom are not pro-actionary (New word haha I dunno) Instead they are reactionary and wait until the shoot has happened to deal with the problems.


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You know that cell phone companies need to pay for the people that work on the cell towers right? They also need to pay for the people that answer dumb questions, sell the phones, and fix problems. TV isn't free because they have to pay for actors, producers, satellites, etc... Internet access is not free because it costs a lot to run wires, networks etc.

I suggest you spend some more time on the site before you post again. I think you are either a troll or 12. $1700 phone and you don't understand basic economics? I doubt it.

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There is nothing wrong in desiring for money. We all need some form of collateral to exchange for goods. It is only in the relentless pursuit of it at the expense of it, even over others that causes harm to societies, as the NWO Corporation had cruelly demostrated.

We WORK TO LIVE, and NOT LIVE TO WORK. Therein lays the difference and freedom.

Peace.

It's not about money they make it....It's about power, world domination...

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www.physorg.com...
( Seems like extortion but if your comfortable with it I wonder why?)

How about non-profit. Just cover the costs of running and maintenance. We work together as a whole and as a society for our luxuries. We should have non-profit communications. Inventors would be nowhere had it not be for the web of society with mostly everyone playing there part to provide for the society. Why extort each other I bet we could be having grade 6 science trips to the moon had we spent our monies appropriately.

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yes yess!! thats exactly what i am trying to tell everybody.. but no one freaking understands!!

we dont need money!! even if we do, not for every single freaking thing thats out there.. money has become life, dreams, achievement, success everything!! its freaking crazyy..

we have the technology.. and humans have made it.. there should be no need to pay for it.. its the same analogy, mother earth provides you food, clothing and shelter for free! .. yet we pay for all of it.. doesnt make sense..

look at the poverty we have.. people suffering and starving.. even the rich are not happy.. IT DOESNT WORK!! we need to change our mindsets..

I hate money but it's almost a necessary evil. Necessity might be the mother of invention but the almighty dollar gets our butts out of bed every morning.

Well maintenance is needed.

But uhh... $1700 Dollars ??? For a cell phone ???

You do know that a cell phone is provided free of cost along with a subscription ?
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You think the money we pay for cable and satellite tv is going to actors? We pay a huge amount over what is necessary to keep the lines and equipment working so a few execs can make yacht payments. The CEO of at&t is also the CEO of General Motors. Although i don't see how someone could have a 1700$ phone......

Originally posted by Raustin
You know that cell phone companies need to pay for the people that work on the cell towers right? They also need to pay for the people that answer dumb questions, sell the phones, and fix problems. TV isn't free because they have to pay for actors, producers, satellites, etc... Internet access is not free because it costs a lot to run wires, networks etc.

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Exactly and all that equipment and infrastructure has to be maintained and kept in working order TV need camera men etc. People need to paid if they are going to spend their time doing these things instead of growing and providing thier own food water and shelter.

To the OP: Albeit there is often greed and gouging for the money, however just because something makes money doesn't mean it is corrupt

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Well my understanding of the monetary system is that yes it is corrupt ( A plethora of threads can be found here proving such) and coincidently everyone abiding by it and partaking in such a system is corrupt themselves. Myself included.

the things you are disribing are services. you have to pay for services one way or another. what if you get a job that expects you to show up 40 hours a week but they say they'll pay you $XXX amount of money up front, and never again? what's the incentive? and without competition, the incentive to create the newest cutting edge mobile device if someone will buy your phone no matter what? competition i one of the best instigators of innovation ever. example, albeit a someone poor one, Country A has a gun. Country B makes armor to counter Country A's gun. Country A makes a counter for Country B's armor

the things you are disribing are services. you have to pay for services one way or another. what if you get a job that expects you to show up 40 hours a week but they say they'll pay you $XXX amount of money up front, and never again? what's the incentive? and without competition, the incentive to create the newest cutting edge mobile device if someone will buy your phone no matter what? competition i one of the best instigators of innovation ever. example, albeit a someone poor one, Country A has a gun. Country B makes armor to counter Country A's gun. Country A makes a counter for Country B's armor

To Everyone on this thread that has responded with, They need to pay for actors and maintaining of the lines and so forth...

Actors are highly overpaid and we all know it, I mean there are some actros that have a minimun rate of $10 000 000 per movie, i mean most of us dont see that kind of money in our entire lives, thus boosting their EGO and labling themself as better than us.

How does my contract of $150 a month / differ from a contract that cost $10, i know it differs with about $140, but it does the same thing, it opens up a port that connects me to another decoder on the otherside...

I am from S.A, as for my Phone, The Sony Ericson Xperia X1,R12500.00 i never payed for it , but got it "FREE" on my contract, so yes i can see why the contract is more. This doesnt however change what the contract does....

Our rates for making cellphone calls vary from R1.00 / R2.50 per minute, that is crazy....

We all know there is corruption, the only way there can be corruption is when we need them for something, this will be an ongoing problem until humanity is wipeout and we start again.

Im just saying.....

Flat rate for Everything, one car that gets you from A - Z, ozone and evnviromentally friendly.

One cellphone that makes calls... @ a flat rate of 2c per call, there are enough people to grow the numbers .6.8bill people every day, thats a sh!t load of money being generated everyday.

Internet - What lines need to be maintained when you have 3g or 4g satelites in place, Payment once off, and the a mnimal rate for data, here in S.A we pay somewhere in the region of R2.00 per MB, 1GB = R2000 if you go over you Cap.

I am not oblivious to the running costs of things , I just feel we are seriously being over charged which means what we are working for the daily necesaties.

We are all in different Boats here, some of us have 10mb lines some are still on 56k dial up, thats just not fair, imagine trying to ATS on a 56 k dialup, this would be almost if not impossible....

I leave you with these thoughts.

Peace

reply to post by Raustin

I suggest you spend some more time on the site before you post again. I think you are either a troll or 12. $1700 phone and you don't understand basic economics? I doubt it.

Why should the OP spend more time here before posting again? If you look in terms of posting and behavior- you seem more like a troll to me.... You obviously do not understand how economics work, living in South Africa- things are way more expensive here even when converting the price to US $. If you are doubting- why don't you look it up...

REPLY TO THE OP-

I agree- while I understand that workers need to be payed for keeping everything running smoothly and so on- I know things are greatly overpriced. Especially living in South Africa, everyday things in the US & UK are luxury items here that you pay an arm and two legs for! DSTV- Internet, cellphones and their call rates.... At least communication companies are being forced to lower their prices now- after a comparison with 1st world Countries, it has been admitted that our call rates are WAY too high. (Financial News) We'll just have to wait for all of this to come into play.

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You do know that a cell phone is provided free of cost along with a subscription ?

Not here- The more expensive your phone is to buy cash, the more expensive your contract rate is....

another thing that gets me, what phone costs $1700? what do you have? iPhone 25G?

Originally posted by Your_Number_One_Fan
You don't hear a commercial break or advertisement during your cellphone call.

NOOOO!! You just gave them the idea!

" We interrupt your call for a quick commercial break, Don't forget to enjoy the fresh lasting buzz of ATS-Cola!...

ATS-Cola.... Sounds refreshing AND fun. I'd buy it.