Why is the 33rd degree the highest observed Masonic level?

reply to post by KSigMason


The Scottish Rite uses 33 because of Christ. That is the secret....he didn't die when he was 33. He went on to live a long and healthy life. At least, that is my OP.

As far as Masonic Light...i appreciate his input. But i would not go to a spook to get facts on the CIA.

Just sayin'.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan


The Scottish Rite uses 33 because of Christ. That is the secret....he didn't die when he was 33. He went on to live a long and healthy life. At least, that is my OP.

Christ may or may not have lived past 33, but we cannot ascribe sectarian meanings to the Scottish Rite. The Rite is not Christian, and as such, does not view Jesus' age as anything relevant to itself.

Actually It's 36...
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reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

So the Scottish Rite is a clandestine Christian group within the Masons? That doesn't quite make sense in my mind, especially when you see that the York Rite is already a known Christian entity within the Craft.

Are you saying we are the "spooks" of Masonry? I do have to laugh a bit.

reply to post by NWOWILLFALL

What is 36? The number of degrees or the alleged age of Jesus at his death?

reply to post by KSigMason
Haha good one, but I'm not one of "those" people...
Again the highest level is 36...

reply to post by NWOWILLFALL

In all honestly, the Scottish Rite is just a branch, but it only has more members because its membership requirement is much more liberal than the York Rite. Plus, back in the day, you had to go through the Rites to join the Shrine so by that logic the Shrine is a superior order in Freemasonry.

Nowhere, until this moment, have I heard the number 36 thrown around. Again I ask though, where do you get 36? Who is this according to? Are we about to hear a REO Speedwagon answer? Heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who...

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reply to post by KSigMason
Let me just ask, Are you a mason?



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Originally posted by NWOWILLFALL
Let me just ask, Are you a mason/clown?

He is, and most likely the best in the world at it.

reply to post by AugustusMasonicus
Well you both better run and tell your masters that someone knows the game

reply to post by NWOWILLFALL

I'm a Mason, but not a clown. Why?

reply to post by AugustusMasonicus

Ah shucks Augustus

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reply to post by KSigMason
I meant something of a funny man...So what do they teach you in "school" murder as being righteous or justified, Sorry I just have a hard time dealing with people with the "god complex" such as the masons...

reply to post by NWOWILLFALL

Well, in school religion wasn't allowed. In fact, I wasn't very religious in school, it wasn't until my adult years that I became religious. And where have I ever given a "god complex"? I'm guessing you're atheist, correct?

Plus, the Masons don't hold this complex as we don't push religion on anyone nor do we intend ever to impede on someone's right to not exercise a religious belief.

reply to post by KSigMason
So what would be the intent of the masons?
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I know but humor me...


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reply to post by KSigMason
And by "god complex" I mean the ones who own all the members...
These dark entity's...

reply to post by NWOWILLFALL

We take good men and make them better through the degrees which teach morals/lessons through symbolism. We also do a lot of charitable work which I am a big supporter of (see my quote for my belief in helping others).

reply to post by KSigMason
Helping others or helping others to their demise?
Helping others is a bit inaccurate when describing the masons...

reply to post by NWOWILLFALL

We don't cause demise. There are dozens of Masonic charities and the beneficiaries would disagree with your assessment of the Craft.

reply to post by KSigMason
I'm sure they do publicly...
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reply to post by NWOWILLFALL

There is nothing sinister within our private meetings. We do degree ceremonies, but the other meeting we do is our business meeting which is boring.

Internally we are not conspiring the demise of man, but rather how to help the community. Do you have any proof of your assertions?

Somebody is keeping the levels above33topsecret. Now eposed, that the masonic order, consisting of at least 99 degrees.

* 1º Apprentice
* 2º Companion
* 3º Master
* 4º Secret Master
* 5º Perfect Master
* 6º Intimate Secretary
* 7º Provost and Judge
* 8º Intendant of the Buildings
* 9º Master Elect of Nine
* 10º Illustrious Elect of Fifteen
* 11º Sublime Prince Elect
* 12º Grand Master Architect
* 13º Royal Arch
* 14º Grand Elect Perfect and Sublime Master
* 15º Knight of the East or the Sword
* 16º Prince of Jerusalem
* 17º Knight of the East and the West
* 18º Knight of the Rose Cross
* 19º Grand Pontiff
* 20º Knight of the Temple
* 21º Patriarch Noachite
* 22º Knight of the Royal Axe
* 23º Chief of the Tabernacle
* 24º Prince of the Tabernacle
* 25º Knight of the Brazen Serpent
* 26º Prince of Mercy
* 27º Commander of the Temple
* 28º Knight of the Sun, or Prince Adept
* 29º Knight of St. Andrew
* 30º Grand Elected Knight of Kadosh
* 31º Grand Inspector Inquisitor Commander
* 32º Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret
* 33º Sovereign Grand Inspector General

* 34º Knight of Scandinavia
* 35º Knight of the Temple
* 36º Sublime Negociant
* 37º Knight of Shota (Sage of Truth)
* 38º Sublime Elect of Truth (The Red Eagle)
* 39º Grand Elect of the Aeons
* 40º Sage Savaiste (Perfect Sage)
* 41º Knight of the Arch of Seven Colours
* 42º Prince of Light
* 43º Sublime Hermetic Sage (Hermetic Philosopher)
* 44º Prince of the Zodiac
* 45º Sublime Sage of the Mysteries
* 46º Sublime Pastor of the Huts
* 47º Knight of the Seven Stars
* 48º Sublime Guardian of the Sacred Mount
* 49º Sublime Sage of the Pyramids
* 50º Sublime Philosopher of Samothrace
* 51º Sublime Titan of the Caucasus
* 52º Sage of the Labyrinth
* 53º Knight or Sage of the Phoenix
* 54º Sublime Scalde
* 55º Sublime Orphic Doctor
* 56º Pontiff, of Sage of Cadmia
* 57º Sublime Magus
* 58º Sage, or Prince Brahmine
* 59º Sublime Sage, or Grand Pontiff of Ogygia
* 60º Sublime Guardian of the Three Fires
* 61º Sublime Unknown Philosopher
* 62º Sublime Sage of Eulisis
* 63º Sublime Kawi
* 64º Sage of Mythras
* 65º Guardian of Sanctuary - Grand Installator
* 66º Grand Architect of the Mysterious City - Grand Consecrator

* 67º Guardian of the Incommunicable Name - Grand Eulogist
* 68º Patriarch of Truth
* 69º Knight or Sage of the Golden Branch of Eleusis
* 70º Prince of Light, or Patriarch of the Planispheres
* 71º Patriarch of the Sacred Vedas
* 72º Sublime Master of Wisdom
* 73º Patriarch, or Doctor of the Sacred Fire
* 74º Sublime Master of the Stoka
* 75º Knight Commandel of the Lybic Chain
* 76º Interpreter of Hieroglyphics, of Patriarch of Isis
* 77º Sublime Knight or Sage Theosopher
* 78º Grand Pontiff of the Thebiad
* 79º Knight, or Sage of the Redoubtable Sada
* 80º Sublime Elect of the Sanctuary of Mazias
* 81º Intendent Regulator, or Patriarch of Memphis
* 82º Grand Elect of the Temple of Midgard
* 83º Sublime Elect of the Valley of Oddy
* 84º Patriarch or Doctor of the Izeds
* 85º Sublime Sage, or Knight of Kneph
* 86º Sublime Philosopher of the Valley of Kab
* 87º Sublime Prince of Masonry
* 88º Grand Elect of the Sacred Curtain
* 89º Patriarch of the Mystic City
* 90º Sublime Master of the Great Work
* 91º Grand Defender
* 92º Grand Catechist
* 93º Regulator General
* 94º Prince of Memphis, or Grand Administrator
* 95ºGrand Conservator
* 96º Grand and Puissant Sovereign of the Order
* 97º Deputy International Grand Master
* 98º International Grand Master
* 99º Grand Hierophant