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Originally posted by abecedarian
In turn, this will justify all of the people that believe the law will not lead to profiling, by way of it already happening
So... umm....
Let's just assume you are a member of the police force and pull a car over for excessive speed (and in Arizona that could mean in excess of 80 MPH) and ask politely, in English as any officer of the law should do, for driver's license, registration and proof of insurance... and the driver responds with "Que'?", "Como?" or "No hablo Ingles." Now what?
At this point we've reached one of those points within the issue: catering to people who do not "want" to become part of the culture of the United States of America and instead are more than happy remaining tied to where they come from because they have no incentive to become "American" since we provide applications for driver's licenses, and well most everything else for that matter, in many different languages while expecting law enforcement to be able to do their job in one language.
So as an officer of the peace, what would you do? Would your apprehensions be raised because the driver you just pulled over doesn't speak, or at least have a rudimentary understanding with relation to operating a motorized vehicle within the USA, of the English language?
[edit on 5/13/2010 by abecedarian]
Originally posted by Marked One
Originally posted by madhadder545
reply to post by Marked One
BULL!!!!This is not there job there looking for a reason!!
I live in Arizona and I wish that antone "NOT" living in AZ hush!!We have a serious problem here and a majority of the peeps are not racist!! they just want the government to take action!!
I agree with you. And they should do the same thing here in Texas. Again; what I can't get over is how they keep calling it "Racial-Profiling". Being Hispanic/Latino is NOT a race. It's an ethnicity.
And if these two cop-chasers want their project to be successful? They shouldn't have let themselves end up on CNN. Because I think they're going to end up getting their asses kicked by Cops.
Kinda like this dude.
Originally posted by abecedarian
In turn, this will justify all of the people that believe the law will not lead to profiling, by way of it already happening
So as an officer of the peace, what would you do? Would your apprehensions be raised because the driver you just pulled over doesn't speak, or at least have a rudimentary understanding with relation to operating a motorized vehicle within the USA, of the English language?
[edit on 5/13/2010 by abecedarian]
Originally posted by richierich
...you predict that the cops will; VIOLATE the Constitutional Rights of the photographers...and ' kick the asses' of anyone that tries to document the cops actions. You must have a very low opinion of the cops...
Photographer interference alleged.
A police report on the accident says photographers pushed back the first officer on the scene as he tried to reach the victims. Because of the swarm of photographers, all the officer was able to glimpse of Diana before more police arrived to help him was "a blonde head," the report says, quoting from the first notes scribbled by investigators 20 minutes after the crash.
Originally posted by richierich
reply to post by Marked One
You quote ONE incident....and it involved a famous person at an unprecedented moment in time..and you say it is ' common'. Please link to a few other examples..if you can. Lets face it: REALITY is this:
The VAST majority of photographers never interfere with anyone doing their job. Most will do as told when ordered to move. Papparazzi stalking a celeb is NOt the common scenario when photogs deal with cops. MOST of the time it is independent or paid photogs from local news, or interested citizens. Both enjoy Rights to film anything they wish as long as it is in public.
The police commonly photograph people...protesters of various types, etc. anybody they want to...right? Well, there is no law saying a cop has more photography rights than we do. the cops cannot legally stop filming just because it offends them for some unknown reason or because the cop simply dislikes being photographed. many times we see films of cops abusing people with a camera and the cops can give no reason...they just scream " turn it off!!' and falsely arrest those who refuse and charge them with bogus charges and do not care if it gets dismissed because they have had the sick freak thrill of getting the last word in and ruining your day.
nice guys huh?
Originally posted by Marked One
Originally posted by richierich
reply to post by Marked One
You quote ONE incident....and it involved a famous person at an unprecedented moment in time..and you say it is ' common'. Please link to a few other examples..if you can. Lets face it: REALITY is this:
The VAST majority of photographers never interfere with anyone doing their job. Most will do as told when ordered to move. Papparazzi stalking a celeb is NOt the common scenario when photogs deal with cops. MOST of the time it is independent or paid photogs from local news, or interested citizens. Both enjoy Rights to film anything they wish as long as it is in public.
The police commonly photograph people...protesters of various types, etc. anybody they want to...right? Well, there is no law saying a cop has more photography rights than we do. the cops cannot legally stop filming just because it offends them for some unknown reason or because the cop simply dislikes being photographed. many times we see films of cops abusing people with a camera and the cops can give no reason...they just scream " turn it off!!' and falsely arrest those who refuse and charge them with bogus charges and do not care if it gets dismissed because they have had the sick freak thrill of getting the last word in and ruining your day.
nice guys huh?
The cops try to take the camera because the footage is evidence.
Originally posted by richierich
Nonsense!!! If a cop wants a picture let him call the police photgrapher....cops have NO rights to seize personal property just because they might somehow call it evidence...that just doesn't happen. Cops do not even use that excuse...lets face it, you simply have run out of steam and are reaching....give it up.