Rapid-fire Sniper takes out five Taliban soldiers from more than a mile away to save British patrol-

reply to post by JohnySeagull


There is no freedom??? Ok, perhaps you should ask that to the millions of people across the globe living in free countries...

And why are they over there? PERHAPS because they are our ALLIES helping to fight a "War on Terror." Yes, I might not always agree with the political motives, but these people are out there to defend they're countries and they're ways of life.

Its because selfish, quick to the gun, CHILDREN like yourself, arn't man enough to do such a job over there. Somebody has to do it to protect people like you... so you can sit on your couch all day, eating potato chips and chiming in on ATS about new conspiracy theory of the day.


[edit on 7-5-2010 by xX aFTeRm4Th Xx]

reply to post by uptheirons!

Originally posted by uptheirons! reply to post by JohnySeagull

 

No..they stayed in their own country and murdered and opressed for many years instead...

Burma oppresses, North Korea oppresses, in fact China also does some pretty awful things too but you do not see us setting up camp bastion in those lands.

I do agree that we should help others if we can but I also think that we should be honest with the voting public and inform them as to why we are really in Afghanistan propping up a corrupt government that can throw a tantrum and entertain talk of siding with the Taliban when they have a bad day.

Originally posted by uptheirons! Think yourself lucky you don't live under a similar regime to the Taliban, otherwise you would have already been hanged as part of a public display

It is their country with their complex customs and their complex ways of life. If they wish to change it then with enough will and motivation and even some indirect help from outside then they could change it without sending in tens of thousands of troops to lay waste to lands (and wedding guests) under the pretext of freedom.

The voting public are not stupid, the notion that our men and woman are over there in harm’s way for freedom and respect for life is ebbing away faster than water through a leaking dam and if the truth as to why does not reach the public consciousness soon then I think this dam will break and our government may find they have some explaining to do as to why they said our troops were there for freedom when in fact it was for something altogether different.

Hundreds of our soldiers have died and to be really upfront with you, I am not really that sure why they have died. It seems to me that they have died for nothing and will continue to die because I think that at some point Obama might open negations with the Taliban and before long there is a power sharing government in Afghanistan.

I for one would consider that such an act would be akin to spitting on the lives of all the men and woman that have died thus far.

I am certainly not against our troops, my brother is a British officer and cast your mind back several years ago when the Para’s lost some men? It was my brother who wrote to the families on three occasions to inform them of their loss because those three men who had died he had known well enough to be in tears about it.

He told me it is not about heroism or killing Taliban - that is a media BS- it is about staying alive and getting home!

The daily mail can burn in my opinion because they are peddling death like it is a football match!

reply to post by xX aFTeRm4Th Xx


Ok , you got me.

I am so sorry.

I feel so guilty now. Sitting on my big fat ass on my big couch watching my 50inch tv and stuffing my face with potato chips and drinking beer. I have is so easy. Just a big lazy fat f**k. Thats all I am mate.

I'm so scared and haven't got the balls to head over there and help the fight against the 'War on Terror'. I am just a big whinging baby.

You have really nailed me, haven't you.

I hang my head in shame.

Is this the same Taliban we're talking about?

I am confused.

reply to post by SmokeJaguar67


I respect your view and even agree in some respects, however...

My reply was meant to counter JohnnySeagull's statements that the sniper in question was a murderer...I certainly do not believe this and would hope that most people would think the same...

The Sniper didn't choose to be there, he's there by virtue of the government, and while i think it may not have been justified to go to Afghanistan for the suppossed reasons we did, i do believe the people of Afghanistan are better off without the Taliban in control than they were under it.

This being said, i again stress that you have many valid points and articulate them well, unlike some...

reply to post by Grey Magic


I can’t believe it!

I am speechless and I actually had tears well up in my eyes so yeah this news is a shock and I had no idea, my eyes have obviously been elsewhere (looking up).
This world and the leaders in it sickens me but if this move brings the troops home and save many of their lives then I can take it – however it feels like a stab in the back to their losses.

I want to say more to this news but right now I feel quite numb with shock. My brother is mountain climbing in the Alps at the moment so I have some time to figure out how to tell him – he will go nuts though, I know that much as he is not as calm minded as I.

Thanks for the information.

reply to post by uptheirons!


I was not getting art you just in case you thought I was, I was just debating with you and putting my arguments in with yours. I am sorry if you thought I was chewing on you but it is not how I roll (as they say) and I prefer to respect another’s view even if I disagree with it, but I was not actually disagreeing with you, rather I was adding to it?

Thanks by the way

Originally posted by uptheirons!
reply to post by SmokeJaguar67

 

My reply was meant to counter JohnnySeagull's statements that the sniper in question was a murderer...I certainly do not believe this and would hope that most people would think the same...

Can you please confirm which law allows this person to be in Afganistan killing people?

reply to post by anon72


Wow. Im not here to comment on the politics of war or insert my viewpoint about any of this but as a person who has enjoyed target shooting safely for quite some time this is very impressive. I've read about and seen demonstrations on TV where snipers have made shots like this before but the fact that this guy did in that time frame is amazing.

Anyway, thanks for sharing that. A part of me wants to comment about this more but the war debate is endless and I just dont have the energy to go there anymore.

reply to post by SmokeJaguar67


No need for the apology! I got the feeling that you were up for debate and not argument...Ex Army myself by the way, and have lost a friend in Afghanistan.

reply to post by noisemedia


I'm glad you liked it.

Maybe someday you can elaborate on what you wanted to say/share.

You can even U2U if you don't wish to share w/ all.

Take care.