Alleged NASA -Affiliated Astronomer Deciphers 'Intelligence' Signal From Nearby Stars

reply to post by nenothtu


Mmmm... it's that heart-breaking smile of yours, that we
can exploit, the screams from the chicks (and an alarming
amount of men, these days) will make us rich beyound our
wildest dreams... and you should see some of my wild dreams!

Don't worry about your ability to make the story work... hell,
look at these two amateurs with their flashing UV lights and
Judy walking off the reservation, every ten minutes.
Stick with me, nenothu... the public are gullible. (don't tell them
though!)

Cue-cards will be available... but the most important part of all
this... with the idea that other species may possibly be talking to each
other across the void and that we somehow, may have stumbled
across an exchange, where we will learn to be humble for the first
time in our existence... will you be needing a trailer?

reply to post by Netties Hermit


...Boy - you are an ATS National Treasure...
It's been seen that I can resemble a dusty old box, when viewed
from the rear. The faded memories stashed inside can be acquired
in any normal run-of-mill lifestyle... but I'm eating this praise up
with a spoon!

...As to my role - well, unfortunately it would have to be pretty limited.
There is really only one stereotype of the hermit - the pious, wise man
with his unerring gaze, dispensing infinite wisdom, free of materialism
and persistent in his sobriety...

Nonsense Sir! with those types of disciplines, you'll be the sage who
Wayne and 'Jude' will come to for help.
A rambling, book-littered office will be called for and I see elbow pads
on your jackets... make a note, BIAD.
There'll be no love-conflict... Make-up will make sure you look older
than Wayne and the script will show a 'fatherly-like' attitude towards
the Doc.

As for the update... what's he after? money for the flight tickets?

[edit on 19-6-2010 by A boy in a dress]

Originally posted by A boy in a dress
reply to post by nenothtu

 

... and you should see some of my wild dreams!

BIAD, not much frightens me any more... but that thought DOES!

Stick with me, nenothu... the public are gullible. (don't tell them
though!)

I wouldn't DREAM of telling them (not even in YOUR wildest dreams!) It's part of their native charm, the unquestioning gullibility. No way would I take that innocence away from them (and risk losing out on all that CASH)!

Cue-cards will be available... but the most important part of all
this... with the idea that other species may possibly be talking to each
other across the void and that we somehow, may have stumbled
across an exchange, where we will learn to be humble for the first
time in our existence... will you be needing a trailer?

A disturbing thought... what if the plot twist reveals that these other species were actually phoning home... to Dr. Judy's HOUSE?

wow, i can't believe that wayne herschel has the cheek to call us crazy people! haha. LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING WAYNE HERSCHEL, DR JUDY FALTSKOG DID NOT MEET YOU BECAUSE SHE IS NOT A DOCTOR, SHE IS A FRAUD AND USED TO BE A MAN CALLED JAMES VAN GREUNEN THAT WAS A KNOWN U.F.O HOAXER AND RESPONSIBLE FOR THE KALAHARI INCIDENT HOAX, AT THAT TIME HE CLAIMED TO BE A MAJOR, SO HE/SHE MANAGED TO REACH BEING A MAJOR IN THE MILITARY AND BECOME A DOCTOR AT THE SAME TIME?. I DONT THINK SO!!!. HE/SHE PROBABLY DIDNT MEET YOU FOR THE EXACT SAME REASONS SHE GOT OUT OF MEETING MR HESEMANN WHEN HE/SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BECAUSE HE/SHE STRUGGLES TO BACK UP HIS/HER CLAIMS IN PERSON AND LIKES TO USE THE AUTHORITIES AS EXCUSES TO EXPLAIN HER ALLEGED DISAPPEARANCES. AND ALSO HER DEEP MALE VOICE MIGHT JUST GIVE THE GAME AWAY IF THE HORMONE TREATMENT HASNT ALTERED IT!. BUT YOU WOULD ALREADY KNOW THESE THINGS IF YOU HAD BOTHERED TO DO ANY RESEARCH LIKE ANY DECENT AUTHOR SHOULD!!! ALL EVIDENCE AND PROOF IS IN THIS THREAD IF YOU HAD BOTHERED TO READ IT INSTEAD OF DISAPPEARING BEHIND A NINJA SMOKE BOMB WITH THAT LAME SHOWER EXCUSE.

BUT I SUSPECT YOU DO ALREADY KNOW ALL THIS BUT EITHER CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT TO SAVE FACE BECAUSE YOUVE BEEN DONE UP LIKE A KIPPER OR YOU KNEW IT FROM THE START AND HELPED PERPETUATE A HOAX IN ORDER TO CREATE INTEREST IN YOUR BOOKS FROM ALL THE GULLIBLE BLIND BELIEVERS.!!!.

IM NOW CHALLENGING YOU TO GET OUT OF THE GOD DAMN SHOWER AND SHOW YOUR FACE ON HERE AND ANSWER QUESTIONS, IF YOU ARE ANY DECENT SELF RESPECTING AUTHOR AND WANT TRUTH THEN YOU WILL ACCEPT THIS CHALLENGE, IF YOU DONT THEN WE KNOW YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A CHARLATAN!!!.

thanks

rich

[edit on 19-6-2010 by RICH-ENGLAND]

[edit on 19-6-2010 by RICH-ENGLAND]

[edit on 19-6-2010 by RICH-ENGLAND]

reply to post by RICH-ENGLAND

Damn nice if I do say so my damned self

reply to post by Marrr


hi marrr, check your u2us ive replied to you.

thanks

rich

reply to post by RICH-ENGLAND


Rich ... Gauntlet ... Thrown

Let's see if the challenge is taken up ...

At least BIAD has some new ideas for his screenplay.

reply to post by Netties Hermit


... LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING WAYNE HERSCHEL, DR JUDY
FALTSKOG DID NOT MEET YOU BECAUSE SHE IS NOT A DOCTOR,
SHE IS A FRAUD AND USED TO BE A MAN CALLED JAMES
VAN GREUNEN.

THAT WAS A KNOWN U.F.O HOAXER AND RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
KALAHARI INCIDENT HOAX, AT THAT TIME HE CLAIMED TO BE A
MAJOR, SO HE/SHE MANAGED TO REACH BEING A MAJOR IN THE
MILITARY AND BECOME A DOCTOR AT THE SAME TIME?

I DONT THINK SO!!!. HE/SHE PROBABLY DIDNT MEET YOU FOR
THE EXACT SAME REASONS SHE GOT OUT OF MEETING MR HESEMANN
WHEN HE/SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BECAUSE HE/SHE STRUGGLES TO
BACK UP HIS/HER CLAIMS IN PERSON AND LIKES TO USE THE
AUTHORITIES AS EXCUSES TO EXPLAIN HER ALLEGED
DISAPPEARANCES.

AND ALSO HER DEEP MALE VOICE MIGHT JUST GIVE THE GAME AWAY IF
THE HORMONE TREATMENT HASNT ALTERED IT! BUT YOU WOULD
ALREADY KNOW THESE THINGS IF YOU HAD BOTHERED TO DO ANY
RESEARCH LIKE ANY DECENT AUTHOR SHOULD!!!
ALL EVIDENCE AND PROOF IS IN THIS THREAD IF YOU HAD BOTHERED
TO READ IT INSTEAD OF DISAPPEARING BEHIND A NINJA SMOKE BOMB
WITH THAT LAME SHOWER EXCUSE.

BUT I SUSPECT YOU DO ALREADY KNOW ALL THIS BUT EITHER CHOOSE
TO IGNORE IT TO SAVE FACE BECAUSE YOUVE BEEN DONE UP LIKE A
KIPPER OR YOU KNEW IT FROM THE START AND HELPED PERPETUATE A
HOAX IN ORDER TO CREATE INTEREST IN YOUR BOOKS FROM ALL THE
GULLIBLE BLIND BELIEVERS.!!!

IM NOW CHALLENGING YOU TO GET OUT OF THE GOD DAMN SHOWER
AND SHOW YOUR FACE ON HERE AND ANSWER QUESTIONS, IF YOU
ARE ANY DECENT SELF RESPECTING AUTHOR AND WANT TRUTH THEN
YOU WILL ACCEPT THIS CHALLENGE, IF YOU DONT THEN WE KNOW
YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A CHARLATAN!!!.

Jeez, RICH... what the hell have you been eating??!!
You're still just eating red meat...? you're not hunting it down
again, nuh?

I see 'Nett's' nenothtu, Marrr and myself as your seconds.
Marrr is slapping the grease on your eybrows.
Nenothtu is shouting into your face about 'dodging and weaving'
Netts is soothing your shoulders with a cool towel and I'm fumbling
about trying to get the hot air out of your shorts, whilst whispering
"breath... just breath, man!"

The judges have rang the bell for Round II, so get in there, my son
and protect those features.


[edit on 20-6-2010 by A boy in a dress]

Originally posted by Netties Hermit
reply to post by RICH-ENGLAND

 

...At least BIAD has some new ideas for his screenplay.

I don't know if I dare request it... (go on, my wicked-side sneers, I dare you)
Would it be appropriate for me to play Dr. Judy?
Do you... my new-found friends, see anything that the 'Doc' and I have
in common?
I would certainly like the idea of holding hands with the nubile 'Wayne'
character as we race through subter... subterra... underground tunnels,
being chased by grey-suited, steel-jawed men in sunglasses.

The 'is he/is she?' twist would lay across the movie and the middle-class
viewer, who may have 'snuck' in from a sudden rainfall, to see the
movie would feel better for themselves in their forgivness, believing that
though it was fiction, the viewer had the capacity to like this confused
heroine of the screen.

I do have a baseball cap that I can photoshop or stitch a badge on the
backwards... the only downside is that the badge says 'PARC' from
Parc enterprises.

We would run together across plots and plans, the grumbling cigar-biting
military would throw everything at us and we would escape, the 'Waynster'
snatching me from the jaws of death at the last moment, because I'm just
a girly-girl.

Clues would be solved, nervous glances across boardroom tables would
be made and together, Wayne and the Doc-with-the-frock would take
the whole establishment down.

Please note, no underwear or upper thigh would be shown throughout
this epic... this would be for all the family.
Hell... if we can set it up so that we drive away in 'Herbie'... then we've
got a Summer hit!

Originally posted by A boy in a dress

Jeez, RICH... what the hell have you been eating??!!
You're still just eating red meat...? you're not hunting it down
again, nuh?

What's wrong with red meat? You aren't gonna tell us we have to actually COOK it first, are you? Spoils all the fun, and takes out all the vitamins and minerals NECESSARY for a fine fighter such as Rich!

I see 'Nett's' nenothtu, Marrr and myself as your seconds.
Marrr is slapping the grease on your eybrows.
Nenothtu is shouting into your face about 'dodging and weaving'
Netts is soothing your shoulders with a cool towel and I'm fumbling
about trying to get the hot air out of your shorts, whilst whispering
"breath... just breath, man!"

I dodge and weave myself when I shout in someone's face about 'dodging and weaving'. You just never know when they're gonna have had ENOUGH of that, and tag ya right on the schnoz. Especially folks already on the edge, who smell blood, like Rich.

The judges have rang the bell for Round II, so get in there, my son
and protect those features.

I second THAT. too! We got yer back, bro!


[edit on 2010/6/20 by nenothtu]

reply to post by A boy in a dress


Seems to me you'd be a pretty close to perfect candidate for the role of Dr. Judy, except that I've never seen a picture of her actually SMILING - and I've never seen one of you NOT smiling! We could call that 'artistic license', though, in a screenplay.

Sort of the same way that a movie never really follows the book.

We could have bumper-stickers printed out as promotionals that say "Don't Dr. Judy me, bro!"

reply to post by nenothtu


I agree Neno, possibly a bumper sticker saying:
'Smile If you believe anything... Pay, if you wanna know more!'

reply to post by A boy in a dress


haha, red meat by the ton, straight off the cow!. but seriously these people annoy me, judy has been proven without a shadow of a doubt to be a total fraud yet wayne herschel is still carrying on with this story and trying to add more credence to it with other dubious claims like flashing stars?!!!. i mean what the hell do flashing stars have to do with far u.v?...

this guy claims to be an author and wants people to believe his theories yet he openly admitted that he doesn't research and verify his sources, he also adds spice and spin to his stories which is paramount to outright lying to make things more exciting as in the case with the paul vigay story whos name wayne couldn't even get right!.

it really irritates me that this guy has the cheek to call us "crazy people" just because we wanted truth and verification of this and other claims yet we uncovered a hoax and a hoaxer, i used to think that wayne had just been duped but now im quite convinced that he knew all about judy/jimmy and helped perpetuate this hoax, he refused to answer questions properly, tried to send everyone to his websites and books and then disappeared into an extremely long shower to escape the awkward questions.

also i hear that the o.p is still in touch and friendly with wayne which i find quite unbelievable after all what has been proved in this thread and that wayne has been shown to embellish things and is still trying to sell this myth to the masses of blind followers!, she tried to defend wayne at every opportunity early on which in a way was admirable at the time but after the evidence of hoax became overwhelming she also has disappeared,

personally if i was in her position i would be asking wayne a lot of hard questions on that facebook page and i would be annoyed that he had put me in the middle of a hoax and even more annoyed that he didn't research any of it and is still carrying it on after everything that has come out in the open. i would make it my duty to plaster his facebook page with awkward questions and links until he deleted me if i had been made a fool of in that way!.

rant over!!!. lol

thanks

rich

p.s) BIAD, your humour and creativity is seriously going to waste!, you could earn some good money with that mind of yours, if these hoaxers can earn money with badly flawed and unverifiable claims and theories with no substance then im sure you could earn a fortune!.

[edit on 22-6-2010 by RICH-ENGLAND]

Hi guys,

The fact that Wayne is now reiterating the claims of the youtube user 'DimmuLand' (with the new Orion story) and trying to inject new life into the original Dr Judy signal story, confirms for me that he's 'in on it'. He probably knows full well who Judy is. It's all about book sales and publicity methinks. If you google for 'flashing lights in Orion' or similar you will get plenty of people reporting this over the years. It's probably just due to atmospheric distortion. The fact that there are already discussions of flashing lights in Orion around for people to look up, provides a grain of existing truth on which our hoaxing friends can build upon for their latest story.

I've started putting together some stuff on our friend Wayne the methods he likes to employ to promote his work and the people he is connected to. I'm having trouble working out exactly where to place a thread on a self styled, self published, hoax promoting, unable to get out of the bath, archeo-astronomer. It doesn't fit srtictly into Ufo's and aliens. Do you guys have any suggestions where it should go?

Thanks awfully, toodlepip!

reply to post by DrHammondStoat


hi Dr H, im not sure where it could go to be honest, space exploration? seti? hoax?. but i suppose it doesn't matter too much, the thing that does matter is that we all keep this up as long as possible so that any web searches of wayne and judys names lead people here and to the evidence of their dishonest and fraudulent behaviour.

in fact, it would probably be a good idea to put his full name and judys name in the thread title if possible and put all good and relevant evidence on the first page because anyone coming to this thread might get bored before they reach the absolute proof of the hoax.

also someone else created another thread so you might want to make it significantly different so its not just a repeat.
thanks

rich

[edit on 22-6-2010 by RICH-ENGLAND]

reply to post by RICH-ENGLAND


I agree with Dr. H, if you get a chance at ressurecting a broken
story, possibly with information that implies unscrupulous folk
are at work to discredit you, the followers -who wanted it to be
true tend not to back-check any other information that might show
fraudulent behaviour.
It's a hard gig, once someone has 'outed' you, it takes a lot to
get you back in the game.
Remember... there's a living to be made from all this garbage
and they will fight to keep that safe.

The shower trick, I have no doubt, is a ruse based on the series
'Dallas' where an prominent actor wished to leave the series, was
killed off and due flagging ratings, the character was brought back
appearing from a shower and commenting that the last couple of
months was a dream!!
To guys like Wayne, I believe reality and the make-believe tricks
of TV-land are both the same. The crowd gets the sugar it yearns
for and he gets his money.

Wayne will keep swinging away at this, there's new audiences to
gather out there... and of course, a lot want this subject to be real.

The man-chick thing is a new twist, though!

[edit on 22-6-2010 by A boy in a dress]

reply to post by DrHammondStoat


Indeed, the flashing light' in Orion is most likely a twinkle effect produced atmospherically in a star's light. Stars, being point light sources, twinkle, while planets, showing a vanishingly small, but discernible, disk, do not. In any event, the UV in question would a) not make it through the atmosphere, b) not be visible to the human eye, and c) not be picked up as a radio signal by a radio telescope.

It's nothing but fluff, being used by Wayne to attempt life support for an unsupportable story. The 'grain of truth' angle has long been recognized by propagandists. The very best, and most 'believable' stories ALWAYS have at least a grain of truth at their core, something which can be verified, and then have a mythos built around it.

Regarding your thread idea, it could be placed in SETI, I would think, with the word 'hoax' somewhere in the title, but not at the beginning in brackets, which would imply the thread to be a hoax. The name should reflect the exposure of a hoax or hoaxers, I should think, without implying that the info you present is itself a hoax.

Alternatively, you could place it as a post or series of posts in the thread already created to detail and condense the findings presented in this thread.

Originally posted by DrHammondStoat

I've started putting together some stuff on our friend Wayne the methods he likes to employ to promote his work and the people he is connected to. I'm having trouble working out exactly where to place a thread on a self styled, self published, hoax promoting, unable to get out of the bath, archeo-astronomer. It doesn't fit srtictly into Ufo's and aliens. Do you guys have any suggestions where it should go?

Hi DrHammondStoat,

When I have time I'll U2U you some links that I have saved but haven't put in the thread.

As to where it would go, I really don't know.

I wish dcmb1490 would come back and join us. His input was great.


Originally posted by A boy in a dress

To guys like Wayne, I believe reality and the make-believe tricks
of TV-land are both the same. The crowd gets the sugar it yearns
for and he gets his money.

Wayne will keep swinging away at this, there's new audiences to
gather out there... and of course, a lot want this subject to be real.

And there's the crux of it right there. If it weren't for the masses wanting to believe so badly we wouldn't have the snake-oil salesmen.

- Hermit

Thanks for the suggestions everyone

Rich - the thread was going to be about Wayne specifically but of course the Dr Judy story comes into it.

I'm still unsure of where to place it as Herschel's main subject matter as a writer is archeo-astrononomy (as he terms it), something akin to Dan Brown or Graham Hancock. That makes putting it in Aliens/Ufo's a no no, although some of the connections he has, mean he is associated with the UFO subject. I think putting it under SETI wouldn't be quite right either because that's only a small part of the story....If I put it in hoax it would get ignored and I don't want it to be buried and forgotten. Putting names in the title is a good suggestion.

Nettie's H, I would appreciate your links that would be great.

Thanks muchly, Dr H. Stoat.

reply to post by DrHammondStoat


Since this is about a group of people covertly acting together to influence public opinion, "General Conspiracies" might be appropriate.