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Consumer-grade fireworks, resembling a model known as M-80s, were taped around the outside of the gasoline cans, according to several people briefed on the contents of the car. Two clocks with batteries, including one that resembled a child’s toy, were connected to the device by small wires.
Originally posted by Shark VA84
reply to post by MilzGatez
I could not agree more, however when someone claims that the false flag scenario is the infallible truth without proper research and thus proper evidence, he or she is harming the "truth" movement more than anything. While some of this may pass on ATS as evidence or a solid argument, to those that are scholars and in the position to actually make this information useful to the public/government, it is repulsive and ignorant. I would rather sit in the dark for another 20 years with people compiling and collecting evidence then go through 20 years of this speculative BS. It has gotten us nowhere, and one could argue that since the inception of sites like ATS, the world has sunk further into turmoil and lies.
I'm all about the truth, but I'm not going to be foolish enough to try to argue something without the proper evidence to support it.
I apologize if that last post came off as harsh, but it is one of the more truthful comments in this thread.
[edit on 2-5-2010 by Shark VA84]
Originally posted by MilzGatez
LOL wtf....
It isnt a big deal...
I'm from the city too...
like I mentioned in my post on the 7th-8th page, Us New Yorkers dont let something like this get to us,
Only if you lived here and arent into all that fear BS,
you'll feel the same way as him and me feels about this whole thing. If you not from NY, please dont comment on how most of us feels about BS like this.
Even if someone gets killed , thats when it'll sure be a big deal, a big deal to find out of the truth and not feed into the bull# that the media and others put out.
Originally posted by Shark VA84
...It is a much safer bet to believe whatever under-educated, random people who go by internet usernames say. ... Thats why you spend all the time in the world on ATS providing "proof" instead of being able to make a change in the world or influence the actual information and decision making process of our governments.
All you morons saying "this is definitely CIA, FBI, ect" need to stfu imo. ... if it wasn't for your unfounded blabbering that displays just how G-D out of your element you are. If you are going to make ludicrous claims, try conducting some serious research and not just regurgitating the same speculative and unfounded sh# you heard third hand through the internet.
The way you present your arguments and "evidence" tends to push intelligent and scholarly individuals away from your "side", because as much as you may not want to believe it, a majority of you come off as ignorant and childish.
[edit on 2-5-2010 by Shark VA84]
So thank you all, regardless of your thoughts, positions and interests; for inspiring others to think deeply, for sparking curiosity and for aiding, in one way or another, the denying of ignorance. No matter how much we may differ, every post, every comment, regardless of content, contributes to the advancement of research and thought. Thank you again my brothers and sisters.
Either that, or you can't recognize a big deal because you are lost in some other fascinating element other then the real world.
I'm from the city too...
I'm right down the road from you...
I am even waving.
Riiiiight...
Terror never strikes the hearts of New Yorkers...
Do you even read what you type, or do you just bang out words and press enter without considering what you are saying?
If that bomb took out 30-70 people in the middle of the Square, yes, it would be a big deal, and the begining of a second 9/11.
If you think your life wouldn't change from such a thing...well, I admit to finding you a tad bit disconnected with the real world.
I blame the media, American school systems, and the dumbed-down parents of today.
Sigh...if only you paid more attention.
I have lived in New York, and have frequented it streets many times in all my years.
Look...no matter where you live, you have no idea about anything on this subject if you are telling people this type of attack is "nothing".
And if you are speaking as if New Yorkers are some type of "never-care-tuff-guys", you are wrong. Not only wrong, but- coming off as a totally oblivious.
New York is one of America's hearts...when it is struck, major effects come into play.
The entire country was ruined for over the last attack on New York. I can still hear the screams from the fleeing New Yorkers running for their lives as they tried to find sheltered from the horror of the collapsing towers.
So please...don't tell me what you think about New Yorkers not caring.....
Originally posted by Scattykat
This sounds suspiciously similar to the 2007 London car bombs. The MO is pretty much the same, including the use of gas cylinders.
Police investigating a failed car bomb left in Times Square have videotape of a possible suspect shedding clothing in an alley and putting it in a bag and found a substance that resembled fertilizer in the parked SUV, Commissioner Raymond Kelly said Sunday.
Associated Press
An image released by the NYPD shows one of the alarm clocks found in the Nissan Pathfinder used in the attempted attack on Times Square.