Would Intelligent Aliens Undermine God?

reply to post by Crossfate

Other "alien" questions that will be pertinent very soon are:

"Why would they come a million light-years just to denounce Jesus Christ?"
"Why do they wreak of sulfur?"
"Why do they resemble the ancient Jomon/Dogu statues- those ancient depictions of the grigori?"
"Why would they want people chipped?"
"Isn't it strange they showed up just before 2012?"
"Isn't attainment of Type 1 status on the Kardashev scale really just another name for the evil New World Order to ease the sell to the public?"
"Do you think they are what Paul warned of in 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12?"
"How did that guy on ATS know all this BS before it even came to fruition?" lol

The answers to these type questions will have eternal reprocussions..

[edit on 3-5-2010 by AliensAreDemons]

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No, actually, those are the questions that aren't supposed to be asked, because those aliens would believe (and possibly rightly so) that we were idiots.

Originally posted by WolfofWar

All organized religions frighten me. Scientology's tactics are nothing new, and rather tame compared to other religions.

...75 million years ago Xenu brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and detonated hydrogen bombs in the volcanoes. The thetans then clustered together, stuck to the bodies of the living, and continue to do this today. Scientologists at advanced levels place considerable emphasis on isolating body thetans and neutralizing their ill effects.

What do we do? Laugh? or Run?

Just to be fair, Christianity states that 2,000 years ago a woman who was never touched by a man was visited by a being whom impregnated her with a god who was also a man, whom walked around and preformed magic tricks for people, and told his people to preform cannibalism to be closer to him, before dieing and magically coming back to life so that he could remove an inner demon in all of us that we were born with because some nude chick ate an apple that a snake told her to eat.


Don't mock peoples religious beliefs that sound crazy to you, because they are all crazy. If they choose to believe it, that's their choice, and they shouldn't need to be ridiculed.



[edit on 5-3-2010 by WolfofWar]

Originally posted by WolfofWar

Don't mock peoples religious beliefs that sound crazy to you, because they are all crazy. If they choose to believe it, that's their choice, and they shouldn't need to be ridiculed.

I respectfully disagree. Crazy people should be mocked.

Exhibit A:

en.wikipedia.org...

Fishman told the court that he had committed crimes on behalf of the Church. He also attested that he was assigned to murder his psychologist, Dr. Uwe Geertz, and then commit suicide

I don't want to make this thread a rant against Scientology. But am I the only one who finds it peculiar that these people dress like Naval Admirals, but aren't signed up for Military Service?

www.softmachinecubed.com...

[edit on 3-5-2010 by NightVision]

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I mock a lot of people, but we all have our beliefs. I believe that there is no evidence of a god, and so I am an atheist. I can be mocked as being closed minded and short-sighted, if one were to choose to. I would rather not be mocked. If I rather not be mocked, I choose not to mock other peoples beliefs. As long as they do not effect me directly, I choose to respect anybodies religious beliefs. I can't change what they believe any more then I could there's.

When we step away from religion though, nothing else is sacred.

Originally posted by WolfofWar
I would rather not be mocked. If I rather not be mocked, I choose not to mock other peoples beliefs. As long as they do not effect me directly, I choose to respect anybodies religious beliefs. I can't change what they believe any more then I could there's.

I definitely see your point. If people choose to believe in something, even if we think its silly, they still have that right. And if it hurts them in the end, well, its still their responsibility.

A world without sword wielding admirals,virgin births, and Xenuvian space muppets certainly wouldn't be as interesting.

What makes anyone assume that intelligent aliens were ever created by God? if there ever was a God, then he probably retired before creating any intelligent aliens. Or maybe what we call "God" was simply too dumb to design anything useful besides parasites, germs, scavengers & savage predators.

But of course, its easier to just screech around randomly, jump around, hide in holes, and beg everyone to put up with our own dumb beliefs about flying chimps in outer space who have no genitalia but think they can create anything intelligent. And then we can all just secretly poison, drug up, kill, assassinate, massacre, prey on, kidnap, eat, cannibalize, rape, & wage war against any non-believers who refuse to believe all our crazy talk. Right?

I would say no, it would appear they are proud of the title god.
and they like lots of people to adorn them. if you have researched
the old texts, the books excluded from the bible are quite enlightening.

Aliens should have no affect on your belief in god.

Even if aliens genetically created us humans, they can never be god, cause they evolved after the big bang in our universe

god, exists pre-big bang, outside our known reality.. so, you can have millions of alien races in the universe but still only one god

I love how people struggle to go into adulthood with their Santa beliefs intact.

Originally posted by The Shrike What biblical "truths"? The bible is a jewish document, meant for no one else.

How so?

Jesus Christ, the Son of God was a Christian, he founded the Christian faith which itself, was a break-away from the Jewish religion.

Much like the Church of England breaking away from the Catholic Church under Henry VIII.

Originally posted by fritz

Jesus Christ, the Son of God was a Christian....

So basically you're saying Jesus worshiped himself?

That's awesome.

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No mate.

His name was Jesus Christ. His followers were called Christians. A bit like Jehova and his Witnesses.

Or Emporor Constantine who founded the early Catholic church.

I think you know exactly what I mean!

I say intelligent aliens would try to undermine God, and in the past, have tried. I suppose it is because of the free will, which God tolerates. We humans do it all of the time, why wouldn't other people from elsewhere. It gets back to the evolution of consciousness thing.

[edit on 7-5-2010 by jymmyjaymes]

Originally posted by Crossfate

I for one think disclosure or contact will radically change peoples perspectives in regards to religion and God because of their traditions and upbringing.
What say ye? Would it strengthen your beliefs in God, destroy them or have little or no effect?

Which God?

Harte

Just my quick view of this:

As a pretty faithful man of God - but still "new" to the faith rather than raised in it I tend to think this way:

First - If you are a Christian or believe in God (i.e. Jew or Muslim) then you should consider ALL of us extra-terrestrials. Christ tried his best to teach us all that we're not of this world. Now, realize this is obviously beyond just the physical.

Second - The Bible was a book meant for us. It is a "Why" book, not a "How" book. All through it things are described very lightly on the 'how' and very heavy on the 'why'.

Third - While the bible doesn't specifically mention God's creation of off-earth life... it also doesn't specifically deny it. So a "literalist" should have no problems with the idea that there may be other intelligent species out there.

But... here is my only doubt/question/concern:

If God created all of us to know and serve each other, why would he create other intelligent species and then not put us in contact with each other? The resounding message of God is his desire to love us, us to love him, and for us to love one another... so why the separation?

Now - here's my little black helicopter quasi-theory: Remember the story of the tower of Babel? Remember that the tower so infuriated God because of man's complete disregard for him that he "confused the people" and mad them all speak different languages?

What if it went further than that? What if he broke a communication link that earthly humans had with other worlds. The bible says that "in that time, everyone spoke the same language". What if it was more than just the same language? What if it was actually the same communication mechanism and God shut it down....

Just my nutty thoughts on it though.

[edit on 19-5-2010 by gncnew]

Originally posted by AlreadyGone
I am a Christian..pretty much a Bible literalist, and have done much deep study...especially love Enoch. Anyway, aliens would not weaken my faith in God, but in fact reinforce it.

The Book of Enoch, Ezekiel, Elijah, some of the other texts...all point in that direction. Further, since God made the vast universe..why not other life forms. I would be willing to believe that they too, have met Jesus...or however you would say it in alienese...lol.

What if aliens showed up, said they were a billion year old species and said there is no Jesus and that God is just an impersonal force that originated the universe? Would that strengthen you're faith or would you call them demons here to deceive the world?


Also, why take the bible literally when Jesus clearly was pained that his disciples did NOT think spiritually. He struggled to open peoples ears and minds to spiritual things and what does everyone do? They read the bible and think there are streets of gold in heaven, real burning fire in hell and other nonsense.

[edit on 19-5-2010 by SmokeandShadow]

What area all these alien+god questions about anyway?

I mean really. It's implying we know a god absolutely. Wait..because christianity is 100% correct.

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As if they were to speak with you, and you'd ask them if they undermined god. They will probably be wondering what in the hell you're on about.

Raising the question of Earths pathetic and failing attempt to enslave the human mind via religion and 'god' with supremenous over you is pure..BULL#.....and if it even was true. I would side with Lucifer.

Originally posted by Triple_helixxx
What area all these alien+god questions about anyway?

I mean really. It's implying we know a god absolutely. Wait..because christianity is 100% correct.

..

As if they were to speak with you, and you'd ask them if they undermined god. They will probably be wondering what in the hell you're on about.

Raising the question of Earths pathetic and failing attempt to enslave the human mind via religion and 'god' with supremenous over you is pure..BULL#.....and if it even was true. I would side with Lucifer.

ROFL... so wait. Let me get this strait. People for the entire human existence have been searching for their creator but suddenly you've got the answer and that answer is: "There is no god"... but if there was you'd side with the exiled destroyer of all things good...

Um, are you 13? Because that sounds like the kind of illogical defiance I get out of my teenager.

I'm not trying to be ugly - but I dont get why on earth you would say that if you found out there as an All-Loving, All-Knowing, Eternal creator that loved you and wanted nothing more than to walk with you for eternity you'd choose an exile with no end and co-existence with the very entity that wants to bring you down just to hurt God?