If Nibiru exists, it should be inside our solar system by now

Originally posted by hippomchippo

Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by EvolvedMinistry

 

So your admitting that your original post was worthless. Agreed.

I'm admitting that your interpretation of my post was worthless.

Much love to all...

Your post was worthless, all it did was try to link random occurances all over the world SOMEHOW to nibiru, you didn't say how these were connected, so please, explain to me how a spiral appearing in the sky is related to nibiru.

[edit on 17-4-2010 by hippomchippo]

You need specifics?

Random?

Personally, I have no opinion of Nibiru whatsoever. You might get that out of the first post.

But if you can't play connect the dots at your age,...then why are you on an adult oriented website?

Thanks for your reply.

Much love to all...

Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by EvolvedMinistry

 

Really? You claim a 4c approach. Where is the evidence?

Evidence??? Just read the article.

Much love to all...

AND...what makes you think that the system that is out there right now sending RF frequencies to our planet, isn't Nibiru itself??? So far its defying the speed of light by 4 times (destroying our theory of physics and light speed) and it is sending a repeated signal that has lasted over a year.

You've forgotten to name the article. All you did was make an unsubstantiated claim about 4c.

Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry

Originally posted by hippomchippo

Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by EvolvedMinistry

 

So your admitting that your original post was worthless. Agreed.

I'm admitting that your interpretation of my post was worthless.

Much love to all...

Your post was worthless, all it did was try to link random occurances all over the world SOMEHOW to nibiru, you didn't say how these were connected, so please, explain to me how a spiral appearing in the sky is related to nibiru.

[edit on 17-4-2010 by hippomchippo]

You need specifics?

Random?

Personally, I have no opinion of Nibiru whatsoever. You might get that out of the first post.

But if you can't play connect the dots at your age,...then why are you on an adult oriented website?

Thanks for your reply.

Much love to all...

Your Ad homs do nothing to prove your point.
What are you connecting these to then?
Yes earthquakes are happening, and yes volcanos are erupting, is this something new? Even if it's a bit more frequent than before, is this signs of the apocalypse? Or simply a change in the natural system of the earth?
I really don't know what you're trying to prove with this if it's not nibiru, sure, we don't know everything about the universe, that's a given, that doesn't mean we should accept outlandish explanations for observed phenomenon though.

[edit on 17-4-2010 by hippomchippo]

Ok
if we are 989 days away from 21/12/12
or Point X
Then Nirbu is also 989 days away frompoint X. Yes?

Depending on which direction we are both coming from couldn't Nirbu be
a maximum of 989 x 2 or 1978 days away or using Chad's original figures between 463,991,328 and 927,982,656 kms from Earth today.

Not being a scientist or math whiz don't we have to calculate were we will
be in 989 days and then start looking out fom there?

So where will we be in 21/12? anyone know?

Originally posted by puzzled2
Ok
if we are 989 days away from 21/12/12
or Point X
Then Nirbu is also 989 days away frompoint X. Yes?

Depending on which direction we are both coming from couldn't Nirbu be
a maximum of 989 x 2 or 1978 days away or using Chad's original figures between 463,991,328 and 927,982,656 kms from Earth today.

Not being a scientist or math whiz don't we have to calculate were we will
be in 989 days and then start looking out fom there?

So where will we be in 21/12? anyone know?

His calculations aren't exact, and are probably wrong because we don't really know anything about a hypothetical nibiru.

reply to post by EvolvedMinistry


Evolvedministry, are you saying Nibiru is being directed through a wormhole by intelligent alien beings or is a recently observed, little understood, phenomena with an “apparent” speed of 4c in a galaxy that is ten million light years away? (seems it is not the first time apparent faster than light speeds has been observed in the cosmos). Or simply trying to point out that science doesn't know it all, which it freely admits.

Either way, could you explain in a more definitive and tangible way why this mystery planet is a reality? I see the links you have provided as having more to do with unrelated observation and theory than any immediate reality of a planet Nibiru. There has been much information on these boards to suggest cataclysmic events in the past from possible space objects, scientists seem very open to this. Though nothing to suggest a rogue planet is heading this way anytime soon.

The other points you raised might also be less convincing for some who actually look further as to whether they pertain to a mystery planet/brown dwarf heading in our vicinity.

So far the only backing for it seems to come from “alternative science” and wild speculation. Or based on religious claptrap/new age mystical revelation. Or anecdotal “friend of a friend” type conspiracies. It appears to be “joining the dots” so as to be able to see Jesus and the Virgin Mary in the pizza.

Though you seem strongly opinionated in some ways, despite claiming to "have no opinion". Why would this be so? If it is due to seeing what you have posted as definitive enough for you, no problems.

ps. Some of your words say “much love to all”, but others seem to indicate you don't really extend this sentiment to all. Perhaps I have misunderstood, it happens.


[edit on 17-4-2010 by Cogito, Ergo Sum]

Originally posted by stereologist

Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by EvolvedMinistry

 

Really? You claim a 4c approach. Where is the evidence?

Evidence??? Just read the article.

Much love to all...

AND...what makes you think that the system that is out there right now sending RF frequencies to our planet, isn't Nibiru itself??? So far its defying the speed of light by 4 times (destroying our theory of physics and light speed) and it is sending a repeated signal that has lasted over a year.

You've forgotten to name the article. All you did was make an unsubstantiated claim about 4c.

The article is on the first post that I made. So, I forgot nothing, you simply didn't read it because you were looking for adversity rather than information and knowledge. The mere fact that you're even asking for the article after it was provided shows me that you are reactive and confrontational as opposed to rational and inquisitive. Otherwise, you would have known that the article was there. So, in that respect, you busted yourself.

You might want to go back and take a look. All you need to do is...simply scroll up, or go back a page. Either way, its there in the links that I provided. And its a SUBSTANTIATED article that tells all the information that the "SCIENTISTS" know about it...which, ain't much.

You're not going to get a win on an argument here, or get a notch to post for your friends who follow you. As long as you consider learning to be a competition, then I promise you...you won't learn a thing.

Nonetheless...enjoy the article. Do your best to prove me, and the scientists wrong. Good luck on that one.

Oh...what the heck. Here's the article again since scrolling back to page 11 may be a little more struggle than you seem to want to incur on yourself.

www.newscientist.com...

This time....READ IT, learn it, and don't keep the doors on your mind shut.

Much love to all...



[edit on 18-4-2010 by EvolvedMinistry]

reply to post by Cogito, Ergo Sum


Well actually, I don't claim that Nibiru is a reality. I have no opinion on Nibiru, simply because there isn't enough empirical evidence to validate its existence. However, I am far beyond ruling out the possibility of its existence simply because we haven't actually located it yet. The M82 galaxy that has been spotted recently may very well have the star, or planet known to us as Nibiru, which could be the very reason that it is emitting RF waves that have been constant for an entire year. But, that's a stretch that has absolutely no merit other than speculation or intuition.

As far as my view on science goes, my point was to illuminate the fact that science is flawed, but not hopeless.

I am not claiming to be correct, in fact, I made no actual claims whatsoever. All of the information that I presented was open and subjective to whomever may be reading it, however, there are many who have made some of the same observations that I have, therefore, if nothing else, it has the strength of a collective thought structure behind it. And at times, if not at all times, collective thought structures are the very determinants of our reality.

I will say this though, until Nibiru actually shows up and creates the spectacle we are anticipating, then, it might as well not exist at all. Its not something anyone should really lose any sleep over.

So...make of my information and opinions what you will. I cannot fault you if you don't agree with me, because in the end, your guess is as good as mine.

And, that was my point to begin with when I addressed Chadwickus's thread.

Oh...here's some additional things to think about when addressing this situation with the M82 galaxy.
1. its sideways velocity is estimated at 4 times the speed of light.
2. science insists nothing can travel faster than the speed of light itself when concerning the physics of this planet. (Cosmology states that the physics of this planet are seen and applied to every other part of the Universe, therefore, every part of the Universe is bound by observed laws of observed physics.)
3. RF waves cannot travel faster than the speed of light as known by earthbound physics. In this case, the RF waves were traveling at a much greater speed than the M82 galaxy itself in order to have breached light speed and to have been detected by our receivers. I'll continue with that in a second.

So, here's some questions to think about...
1. How far away is this M82 galaxy?

2. If RF waves cannot travel faster than the speed of light, why did this M82 signal reach us before THEY DID??? Cosmology says that the Universe is expanding, therefore, this M82 galaxy should not even be within the range of RF frequency transfer. To further this, expansion alone would eliminate the chances for this frequency to ever reach outside of the gravitational pull of its orbit due to the extreme amount of escape velocity needed by the RF frequency itself to breach the speed of light. In other words, the frequency would just be sucked back into the galaxy because of the RF frequency's inability to breach light speed...let alone by 4 times that amount.

So, by our own admission of OUR understanding of science, the RF frequency emanated from the M82 galaxy should have never been detected by our receivers. Our current understanding of science forbids that this idea could even exist. In other words, soon, we'll have to revise our knowledge of how the Universe really works because our current understanding of science just got ripped to shreds by this article.

3. Also...If cosmology is real, why does an M82 galaxy have the sideways velocity of 4 times the speed of light???

We're learning newer and bolder things everyday. For instance...we never entertained multidimensional realities before, but now, due to the advances in science, its becoming commonly accepted as probable, if not definite.

Much love to all...



[edit on 18-4-2010 by EvolvedMinistry]

reply to post by EvolvedMinistry


Thank you for clarifying EvolvedMinistry. In this instance it seems I have misunderstood what you were saying earlier. I understand your last post much better. Thanks again.



[edit on 18-4-2010 by Cogito, Ergo Sum]

Originally posted by Cogito, Ergo Sum
reply to post by EvolvedMinistry

 

Thank you for clarifying EvolvedMinistry. In this instance it seems I must have misunderstood what you were saying.



[edit on 18-4-2010 by Cogito, Ergo Sum]

No problem my friend. I understood your confusion.

Originally posted by gilgamesh12
lol im definetly not perfect, but i think someone just posted.......I pray every day that people will take up Logic.

That would have been me, and I thank you for sharing a balanced point of view.

Now, I am about to say something that will shock most people here, because it shows "The Man" in a good light - Contrary to what seems to be the mass movement on here, most scientists WANT to find new life out there. They want to see a new heavenly body. They want to see something never before thought of in our human experience. Why? Because they are human too, they yearn for different and strange things as much as we do.

But unlike most people on this site and in the world, they have scarified time and money and much of their youth to be able to use cold, hard science to find the things that their dreams can only begin to shape. In other words, they know what they are talking about.

Here's this for a thought - How about we all just stop trying to figure out if a "planet" is "hurtling" towards us, and start to fix the issues surrounding us. If we don't start to fix war, and famine, and blind rage fact bending ( Like I have seen in this thread and others, not saying everything is without merit but people do like to stretch ) by the time anything, anywhere is discovered we will be too highly evolved to even care.

I was watching the "Wonders of the Solar System" yesterday and it gave me a thought.

What if the planet is a satelitte of another planet and when it aligns up with another one of the moons...it may fly off hurling towards us.

Basically similar to Saturn and why there's a large gap between the rings.

So far from this thread I've learned:
*Nibiru is inside our solar system
*Nibiru is from another galaxy
*Nibiru entered through a wormhole
*Aliens were responsible for creating this wormhole
*Nibiru is moving at 4c towards earth
*Nibiru is invisible
*Nibiru has a non existent gravity well
*Nibiru is hiding behind the sun
*We know for certain the day Nibiru will come into contact with the earth

[edit on 18-4-2010 by scwizard]

reply to post by scwizard


arent you glad you tuned in....

If you look up binary star systems, you will find that the orbits of each star speeds up dramatically while the brown dwarf slingshots around the sun. NIrbiru, if it exists, could still be very far away, but it will speed up to very fast speeds as it gets closer to our sun. So all of your calculations could be very wrong.

Originally posted by scwizard
So far from this thread I've learned:
*Nibiru is inside our solar system
*Nibiru is from another galaxy
*Nibiru entered through a wormhole
*Aliens were responsible for creating this wormhole
*Nibiru is moving at 4c towards earth
*Nibiru is invisible
*Nibiru has a non existent gravity well
*Nibiru is hiding behind the sun
*We know for certain the day Nibiru will come into contact with the earth

[edit on 18-4-2010 by scwizard]

You forgot to add.

*Nibru is not even a planet.
*Nibru has nothing to do with planets.
*Nibru therefore has nothing to do with this discussion.
*Therefore, those discussing Nibru in this thread in regards to Nibru being a planet are either hoaxers or have been misleading themselves.

[edit on 18/4/2010 by serbsta]

reply to post by scwizard


You missed the fact that Aliens, particularly Annunaki, will come to Earth from Niburu, demanding more Gold from us, only to realize we're BROKE, at which point they depart and fly off on their merry way

reply to post by serbsta

I never claimed it was a planet. After all everyone knows that Nibiru is actually a giant alien space craft. It's invisible because of its cloaking technology. It's hiding behind the sun intentionally. It can move at 4c because it possess a hyper drive. Of course it's physically impossible for an object with mass to move at the speed of light, let alone faster. Therefore Nibiru's hyper drive also makes it massless, this is why we can't detect its gravity. It flew through a wormhole to get to our galaxy.

The aliens piloting Nibiru visited our planet a long time ago, and this is how we know that Nibiru will visit once again in 2012, heralding the beginning of a new era.

[edit on 18-4-2010 by scwizard]

hey guys just stumbled on a you tube vid a suprising find what is at ra 9h 45m 33.57s and dec 10'14'46.60 i have no idea what it is you might be able to but

Originally posted by scwizard
reply to post by serbsta

 

The aliens piloting Nibiru visited our planet a long time ago, and this is how we know that Nibiru will visit once again in 2012, heralding the beginning of a new era.

[edit on 18-4-2010 by scwizard]

I can't tell if you sarcasm is turned on or off, just in case its off, I have a question.

How in the hell did you relate 2012 with Nibru?