How to stop all war.

Originally posted by hawkiye

Originally posted by ghostsoldier
One language free from cultural bias (Lojban best candidate so far).
One religion (God is Love - anything else is ancient opinion, perception and/or bs).
One race (achieved through interbreeding).
End to the monetary system, move toward a resource based economy.
Reduction of human population.

Theses are the macro-goals needed for world peace to happen.

Though the Georgia Guidestones sum it up more eloquently.

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10. Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.

Wow just wow. the Georgia Guidestones... unbelievable so how do you reduce and maintain a populations of 500,000,000 without killing a lot of people? Hmmmm???

A one child policy for a few generations. You obviously didn't read through the rest of the thread, or you would of seen an extrapolation of what I meant.

Originally posted by hawkiye
This Socialist Utopian BS is what TPTB are trying to enforce on the world now with all these wars, poisoning the food supply, vaccines, and poisoning the waters etc. and may be the reason for all the unrest that might lead to WWIII or nukes being set off etc.

Those things are about people wanting power, it's got nothing to do with a socialist-utopia.

Originally posted by hawkiye
You cannot force love and peace and charity on people! As long as there are evil people in the world who think they are better then everyone else or can force their [...] ideals on everyone else we will never be without war.

Being evil and spreading love, peace and charity is an oxymoronic statement.

Originally posted by hawkiye
People just need to learn to leave everyone else the fack alone to live thier lives as they please. If someone is not oppressing you or violating your right then what they do is none of your business.

So child prostitution rings are okay in your book as long as you don't have to worry about it?

Originally posted by hawkiye
So my plan OP is for everyone to just mind thier own damn business pretty much and not oppress anyone. Unfortunately a lot of evil people need to die first for that to happen.

Agreed, as do alot of people who contribute little to society. (edit: thats not intended to be a personal attack)

[edit on 13/4/10 by ghostsoldier]

Grow a new planet from collected asteroid matter which is 500 times the current one, and fill it completely with lush vegetation, lakes, and low mountains. Allow only helpful technology, and zap those off the planet who plan to undertake any of the well-outlined "higher" experiments - and deal with them in an enlightened fashion by the ruling council - who do not partake in planet concerns otherwise. Part of the ruling council is also to disintegrate ill control over others from rulers, as the rulers will act in the service of the people and are gifted some lesser ability to ensure the populace does not greatly afflict one other. Besides these basic controls, the world operates as a highly educated, ascetic society who promote virtue over vice, sharing, violence only as sport, ecological preservation and development, and independant retreat sanctioned as normal behavior - the wilderness being so vast that most would care to explore over congregate.

reply to post by ghostsoldier

A one child policy for a few generations. You obviously didn't read through the rest of the thread, or you would of seen an extrapolation of what I meant.

Ah so were back to force right away so how you going to enforce this one child policy? And why is it even necassary when the human race only lives about 15% of the land mass anyway? Or is this just more environmental pseudo science BS?

Originally posted by hawkiye
People just need to learn to leave everyone else the fack alone to live thier lives as they please. If someone is not oppressing you or violating your right then what they do is none of your business.

So child prostitution rings are okay in your book as long as you don't have to worry about it?

Sigh... Ah no that would be oppressing others now wouldn't it....




[edit on 13-4-2010 by hawkiye]

Did the ancestral forest environment select for male docility, and did Homo and the chimpanzee then both dump that behavior, independently, as they evolved in less bountiful environments? The modern bonobo holds the answer, Hohmann said; in time, its behavior will start to illuminate such characteristics as relationships between men and women, the purpose of aggression, and the costs and benefits of male bonding.

Read more: www.newyorker.com...

Originally posted by hawkiye

Originally posted by ghostsoldier
A one child policy for a few generations. You obviously didn't read through the rest of the thread, or you would of seen an extrapolation of what I meant.

Ah so were back to force right away so how you going to enforce this one child policy? And why is it even necassary when the human race only lives about 15% of the land mass anyway? Or is this just more environmental pseudo science BS?

It could start with teaching kids life-skills and lateral thinking. We might physically take up only 15% of landmass (space wise), but do you think that only 20%(~) of the worlds rainforests still existing is cool? Have a look at some of the stats here www.worldometers.info, and tell me its sustainable. Maybe if we terraformed all the deserts we could support a larger population, but for what purpose beyond multiplying.

Originally posted by hawkiye
People just need to learn to leave everyone else the fack alone to live thier lives as they please. If someone is not oppressing you or violating your right then what they do is none of your business.

Originally posted by ghostsoldier
So child prostitution rings are okay in your book as long as you don't have to worry about it?

Sigh... Ah no that would be oppressing others now wouldn't it...

It was a rhetorical metaphor.

We should all be trying to better our fellow man, and ourselves. Some remain too glued to egoistic archaic redundant ideas and philosophy, and because greed persists - society stagnates.

And I don't think we should be learning to live on another planet, until we learned to live on this one.

reply to post by ghostsoldier

It could start with teaching kids life-skills and lateral thinking. We might physically take up only 15% of landmass (space wise), but do you think that only 20%(~) of the worlds rainforests still existing is cool? Have a look at some of the stats here www.worldometers.info, and tell me its sustainable. Maybe if we terraformed all the deserts we could support a larger population, but for what purpose beyond multiplying.

Well lets see we've only taken up 15% of the land mass in however many thousands of years so we still have 85% of the land mass free. Uh let me see yes I think that is sustainable for at least another 30,000 years.

As for the rain forests, not that I am for clear cutting them however we have more trees today on the earth then we did a hundred years ago. And since at least half of the oxygen on earth comes from cyanobacteria and plankton in the ocean I am not as worried about it as you are. I don't think the earth is quite a fragile as you think although I do think we should be good stewards of our resources. However I see no correlation here with a need to reduce the population. The problem is not over population the problem is economic terrorism by the politically connected and elite. They are the ones who want a reduced population so it is easier to manage the slaves on the plantation known as earth because that is how they see it.

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Wars will never stop.

That is humankind for you.

Too stupid to save the planet, and stupid enough to wage war.

Originally posted by Reign02
Hmm that is smart

then you would destroy the world.
No semen=no babies LOLZ
you would eventually run out

lol, u dont need semen nowdays
DNA works just fine
look it up

stop pollution of the heart,
then stop pollution of the mind,
then the pollution of war will stop.

reply to post by wonderinghows


1st. Create a liquid powder like solution almost like mercury but non lethal if injested mabey fruit based of some sort that would cause any location or battle field that is covered with to cause all MECHANICAL DEVICES TO NO LONGER OPOERATE DUE TO THE SOULTION BEING IN CONTACT WITH ALL THE MECHENICAL MOVING PARTS THAT CAN NEVER BE CLEANED WITHOUT DESTROYING SAID WEAPON OF MECHANICAL NATURE.

2nd. Cover the entire world inside and out lol and pick a male and femal from each ethnic background and religion and place them on 1 GLOBAL COUNCEL. This gives everyone on the EATH A CHANCE TO BE HEARD AND A CHANCE TO REQUEST WHAT IS NEEDED PER LOCATION.

3rd. Eliminate all money and each council will know what everyone within their location needs to strive and stay up with the advancing world making every location grow on the same level DESTROYING THE THOUGHT OF A 3RD WORLD.

4th. Any being that attempts to strive at becomming better then the next on a negative level shall go infront of the entire councel for the to decide their fate that doesnt have to be death.

LAST shar all EARTHS secrets so we no longer have to guess and theorize.

my 3 cents

By realizing war is not the solution?

In a word nanotech. remove the motive for war, nanotech woilx bring about a postscarcity socity meaning everyond coulx have anything hence no power or resources to fight over. there would be no conflict only compatition as to who can bdst use the tech and/or develop it. just stick it out for a few more decades in this capitalist hellhole before freedom, peace and the universe to explore

There's a place to go
All life should know
Somewhere inside
Somewhere inside
Can you hear the call?
Its what keeps the score
Somewhere inside Somewhere inside
We're all gonna die on the Outside.

Conquering of the world of appearance and creation
So many blind to truth , walk outside the door and lock themselves out.

There is no way to stop war.

War is a natural state for humankind to be in. For all of those who love to quote numbers and statistics, the evidence is readily available in any history book (or any religious text, such as the bible, where war is condoned).

The folly is in believing that man has ever been anything but war like.

I'll take an unpopular stance here and propose a question. How can we know that being warlike has not sustained the species in some meaningful way? How can we know that we should embrace kindness and expel cruelty since we know very little of our true purpose and context in the larger universe?

I raised a son. The first thing he did when he could pick up a stick on his own was to try to put a point on it. It's in-arguably innate.

Originally posted by misterscratch
There is no way to stop war.

War is a natural state for humankind to be in.

I agree, but I would rather call it a tactic (among many) for survival.

It may be "natural" - in that we have waged wars (most probably) since the beginning of man. It was once considered "natural" for doctors to not wash their hands before surgery. Obviously after some time, they overcame their conditioning and more highly evolved practices became contemporised and ingrained.

Anyone who thinks war has a justifiable place in the future of humanity is sadly misguided.

Reptillian < Mammillian < Sapien

Do the math.

[edit on 30/5/10 by ghostsoldier]