My apology...

Recently in a post that I'm sure most of you have read, I said unkind remarks about us troops saying that if they gave me a m16 i'd use it against america... this was my way of being against the War on Iraq that is soon to be coming.

I didn't think I'd offend as much people as I thought, and what makes it worse is my history on this site which taints my credibility even worse.

For what it's worth, I'd like to publicly apologize for those comments I said, it was uncalled for. I'd like to especially apologize to the men and woman on this board who have actually served in the armed forces for America.


I'm not going to sit here and lie though, I am against the war on Iraq and I thought me saying that was a way for me to protest it. There's millions of ways to protest agains the war and I probably by far chose the worst way possible..


that being said, again I'd like to apologize to everyone on ats.com for the comments I made and I hope you'd find it in your hearts to forgive me for what I said.

every now and then something comes out wrong. don't sweat it. i don't agree with this war either and probably would try to stop it. but hell i'm just a boy.

I will admit, when I read that post I was very offended. You have every right to oppose the war and, as you said, that was a poor way of showing it. I'm glad you realized what you said, and were man enough to apologize. Accepted.

You have no idea what this means to me...really.

Illmatic,

I do respect your right to voice your opinion, and I do also respect your veracity and committment to your ideals. I may not agree with some of your ideals, but at least in this country, you are allowed to believe in your own beliefs, which is what makes it a good country to be in.

I was offended at your remarks, and I admit that I took a very hard stance on responding to you. I probably went over the line myself, and for that, I would like to apologize as well.

Illmatic, I appreciate the apology. I posted in haste after reading your comments and believed I gave you and others the wrong impression of myself. I am only 18 years old, and am not currently in the armed forces, but am enrolled in the ROTC program at my college, so eventually one day I will be an officer. I definetly respect your opinion on the war. I just don't think saying that you will shoot our own troops was the best way to go about it, and acted in anger more than anything else in my post. Any respect I have lost for you has been regained because of your apology.

The ability to front up and apologise is a sign of strong character...so I commend you for that.

What I would regret to see happen, however, would be for you to stop speaking out on your beliefs/point of view...for personally I believe much of what you say is truth...just maybe a slightly unpalatable truth for some to digest...

Agreed that you took a bad angle for opposing the war but you do have every right to be against it. I hope you don't kick yourself around too much, anger and frustration can make you do some pretty silly stuff.

I see no reason to not let this go.

As a Vietnam Era vet myself, I appreciate your apology. I may not agree with some of your beliefs, but would always fight for your right to express them.

All the best & stay well my man,
Deep

I was in the US Navy and have served my country. I was disappointed in your comment, but reading your past posts, have realized you have a lot of conviction and passion. I don't hold those comments against you, but instead hope that when I say something stupid you don't hold it against me either. Peace.

Thanks everyone, this means a lot to me it really does.

just maybe a slightly unpalatable truth for some to digest...

I absolutely understand now and I'm going to take it into consideration everytime I make a post.

illmatic just remember one thing

its not often WHAT you say but HOW you say it that causes the problems

and your apology is both respected and seen as a sign that you are developing the maturity to temper your anger with a little diplomacy

(read title) I am also against war on Iraq. Personally I think Bush is a dush(or however you spell it) bag and this wouldnt have happend if we had gore.(no offense I just didnt know how to say this) so bush.(sorry about that dont critisise me please)

[Edited on 5-3-2003 by Al]

Illmatic67


It is credit to you that you were able to see your post in a new light.

The way other people may view it.

It takes character to step up to the plate and make a public apology.





I guess william says it best.

Think before you post. !

[Edited on 5-3-2003 by quaneeri]

Yeah, all forgiven, man. Guess I should apologize m'self for some of the things I said in there..... Sorry to all who heard it.

Yeah, ya know a guy ain't half-bad when he comes out in public and apologizes for one thing or another.

Kinda like William Blake...The guy who played the part of Barretta in that ole TV series.

He was a pretty popular guy to have on talk shows because of many of the things he says on national TV...But then he also mentioned in an interview that, when reviewing those shows he talked on, he'd feel like shoooting himself for saying them in the first place.

Passionate attitudes towards a subject are difficult to interpret across a talk medium that relies only on written text for communication...But when an extreme attitude *does* come through in text, it usually generates an equally extreme response.

Heaven knows that I've been guilty of being on both sides of *that* fence.

The most *revealed* part of a person's personality that comes across in text is the intellect...Mainly because, unlike verbal speech, we have time to sit & think about what we write...And the extreme attitudes that *do* make it into text are usually inserted during a highly emotional (& most likely *temporary*) time.

*Some* people write in such a manner *intentionally*, with no regards to the actual *people* that they're inciting at the other end of their posts...This type of person is known as the "internet troll" & is widely denegrated for the unreasoning hatred that they spew all over the 'net.

However, just the act of apologizing in public shows that you do *not* have intentions of becoming a troll & I can respect that you've seen that path towards "trolldom" & *choose* to steer off from it. That alone deserves some level of respect.

...Just tone down the attitude & your true intellect will have a chance to earn you even more respect...


...Now if I can only remember to take my own advice on a regular & consistant basis...