David Icke - Nut or Brilliant Researcher!

Originally posted by RedBird
I don't think Icke is a particularly good researcher.

He IS, however, a very good writer and an exceptional public speaker.

If someone wants to watch a good objective piece on Icke, I recommend the British television documentary, David Icke: The Lizards and the Jews

HERE

I think this documentary does two thnings:

1. Indicates that David Icke is dedicated and genuine, even if a bit nuts.

2. Puts to rest claims of Anti-Semetism that seem to waft after him somehow.

And speaking as someone who has absolutely ZERO tolerance for Anti-Semetism (just check out my threads and posts) I think that's saying something.

Def. worth a watch. Funny, too.

Very good points. The documentary you link to is a good one. The protestors who follow him to his gigs accusing him of anti-semitism come across as zealous and facististic. When they throw custard pies at him in the book shop (very mature!) David remains calm, he doesn't get angry. Quite a contrast to their venom and intolerance.

Another good show is 'Wogan now and then'. Its good to see the tables turned and interesting to note the audience are no longer laughing at what he says.

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by DrHammondStoat

Originally posted by RedBird


Another good show is 'Wogan now and then'. Its good to see the tables turned and interesting to note the audience are no longer laughing at what he says.

www.youtube.com...

Soo true and many who are a bit experienced in "Alternative Views" and topics have seen this themselves.

When I was first vegetarian, over 25 years ago people would look at me as if I was starnge. I would go to restaurants and ask for the vegetarian option and they would bring Fish or Chicken.

I was talked about as a "bit Strange" "not a man" (lol more man than those who have to act Alpha to prove it, kill and hunt things, leave me in a room with you we will see lol) couldnt find food in the shops, no "Vegetarian" section as such.

Now wherever I go I cant get awy from "Style Warrior" vegies who do it for one or two years then stop, who make a big deal "I couldnt possibly eat a meal prepared in a kitchen with flesh " blah , blah blah look at me look at my badge... 1 yr later they have moved from University etc and are tucking into full english breakfasts...

1 in 10 in the UK is now veggie, and shops have all sorts of handy specialist vegetarin meals, and meat substitutes.

This is how things are, the first in are ridiculed then it becomes fringe, you are admired, then mainstream and you are hijacked!

For over 10 yrs Ive been banging on to everyone about the Banking issue, fed, Familes, etc etc, that the housing market would drop in the UK and personal debt was too high!

"Nutter"..... "loon"... "He always was a bit fanciful"

Elf back trust me look Gold is at £350oz buy as much as you can, trust me dont put the depoist down on that house, spend £5000 on solicitors, fees and valuation etc... get £5k worth of gold, pay of your credit cards.

"Live in the real world Elf Etc"

"He always was a fantisist, ahh poor elf, we would all know if this was true"

Now the same people keep talking of gold, coming to me wide eyed saying "did you know that....???" seeming to forget the previous 10 odd years conversation with me.

The zealousy with which they go about this, "spreading the truth" etc would have the Jehaviours Witness's jealous.....

But now its not alternative anymore it is the fringe without a doubt, even becoming Mainstream...

History an interesting thing if you research, watch it, and know your own place within it.

Im onto new things now and when the crowd catches up that will be the fringe then, but by then I will have learnt all about it, and be onto the next things.

The truth and real work is always done by the frontier makers, not the settlers who follow afterwards.

Never accept the ridicule of the herd, for what they ridicule today is accepted fact tommorrow in many cases indeed.

For those reasons as said I respect David Icke Much, even if I dont believ all of his ideas.

And I know just what it was like for Icke to go Wogan, and see the change in the audiance, I have seen it with my freinds, family and collegues for years on many differant topics.

Kind Regards,

Elf

[edit on 26-3-2010 by MischeviousElf]

David Icke on TNS Radio - Mar 21 2010 very interesting interview highly recommended :

ufo-planetx.blogspot.com...

Hi OP ...
[Which again I must say was very interesting and there is a lot of evident to support such theories. Shortly after this, Icke came upon the topic that has made him famous or infamous; the idea of a reptilian species on the planet. This is when my ears turned off and my mind said “Ok, you were good up till now. What the heck is this about some sci-fi type creature that has taken over the world or whatever” I must admit I quit reading the document after that, and didn’t really pursue any more of David Icke’s work after this. It was a good couple years before I ever got back to reading David Icke’s material.]


I first heard about him when GWB JR was running for president and I read The Biggest Secret .Which I had to admit there was some real time consuming research in that book and I checked the facts on it and found most of it to be true ....I went to his site and I was like you ..as soon as I read about reptilians etc I was turned off to anything he had say after that ...But I still read what he had to say whenever I saw something come up about him ..Because you gotta admit he is not a dummy for sure ....he is smart and is possibly one of the best researchers of conspiricies that there is .
Anyway ...and I believe in satan and that he was possibly really a reptile (literal snake and spiritual slippery snake too) but the reptilian stuff was too far fetched for me to believe .At that time though I had not really dug much into the Nephallim stuff either (I am learned in the word of God but never concentraited much on that area) ....And I just like you ...started seeing more and more info about these reptilian peoples and had to literally try and look outside of the box some ....so now I am open to at least consider this possibility of actual real reptilian peoples as actual Nephalim ...
What has been before will be again ...fallen angels bred with earthly women and had children by them prior to the FLOOD and as the bible says EVEN AFTER THAT (it was so again) so yes we have these children among us ...at least in my personal opinion ...............
I have also come to believe that they are also the so called ALIENS and UFOS that so many claim to have seen and been abducted by them .....
And of course they are also all the beings that are channeling to New Agers playing like they are angel of light beings (they can talk a good sweet talk) but are not wanting to be actually seen because they are grotesque in nature ..(Reptilian) ...I think the interbreeding with womenkind has helped them to look more like us now than like reptiles ..which is how they have managed to mingle now among the crowd just like all of us (look pretty normal) ...So I even now believe in the possibility that they can shapeshift (which was the one thing I always thought was the most rediculous thing I had read from Icke)...............................

On my Profile I put that I detest threads about Reptilians and Shapeshifting but since I have been here now a few years ...I have changed my mind ..
Mainly because I believe they are also among us here (Have seen a few of them in posts lately LOL ) ....just kidding ..

But yeah OP..I have sort of reconsidered my view on this subject just like you and found that there really is a good possibility its true //

[edit on 1-4-2010 by Simplynoone]

I'm a little jealous of the guy. He is very dedicated to his research and what he is passionate about. I wish my job could involve researching global conspiracies. Not to mention he gets paid for publishing what he believes he has learned. Awesome.

Con Man and confidence trickster out to make $ out of gullible people!

He knows he's full of ####!

Originally posted by lambs to lions
I'm a little jealous of the guy. He is very dedicated to his research and what he is passionate about. I wish my job could involve researching global conspiracies. Not to mention he gets paid for publishing what he believes he has learned. Awesome.

LOl Ofcourse hes dedicated, He's probably paying off a nice car and a mortgage!

On David Icke's reptilian claims:

If you read the book “Eyes of the Night: Witchcraft among the Senegalese”—by William Scranton Simmons, a top Ph.D. anthropologist, I think Harvard-trained—then the evidence is all too real for shape-shifting reptilians.

Further strong evidence is in “Iron, Gender, and Power: Rituals of Transformation in African Societies (African Systems of Thought)” by professor Eugenia W. Herbert (Paperback – Dec 1993)

Also on David Icke’s first t.v. appearance —my understanding is Icke had some spiritual vision in the Andes.

In fact when I traveled to the Andes in 1998—to Venezuela in support of the Chavez election—I too had this amazing spiritual vision.

Then I came across peer-reviewed, Ph.D. medical research proving that elevation dramatically increases the melatonin levels which then turn into D.M.T. The study tested mountain climbers melatonin levels.

Westernized, modern people have totally lost touch with the right-brain awareness which enables body-mind transformation if certain rituals are practiced in a very strict environment.

A good text on these practices is “Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality”—I did that experiment as my final class for my graduate degree.

Also highly recommend is Dr. Paul Stoller's "In the Shadow of Sorcery" wherein, doing Ivy-League anthropology research in Mali, Stoller gets inadvertently trained in sorcery.

The person who trains him has poisonous snakes constantly "materializing" underneath his sleeping mat! These "shape-shifting" reptilians are "teleported" by competing sorcerors.

Dr. Stoller's work was ridiculed by Professor I.M. Lewis (some bigshot expert anthropologist) and Stoller was kind of freaked out by the whole experience but then about 10 years ago Stoller got cancer and returned to his sorcery chants as a means of treating his condition.

springforestqigong.com... for similar healing telekinetic powers.


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Who are you trying to convince Drew?

reply to post by wayaboveitall


Ph.D. anthropologists are a bane to the existence of Western civilization.

The sources speak for themselves -- I just posted the information -- you are free to ignore it if you want.

As David Icke says there's a lot of lily-livered people will balls the size of peanuts.

Maybe the elite use more of their reptile part of their brains than some but this does not make them shape shifters. lol There are aliens, but not shape shifters.

started out exposing the truth, ran out of truth to expose... and started making a bunch of crap up for $$$

I hope everyone watches the Jews, Lizards and David Icke documentary!

It's awesome. I had my masters thesis published on David Icke's webmaster's magazine -- but I thought it had been Icke's website. When I mentioned this on the theparacast.com... Biedny banned me right away -- no questions asked!

Mention of any connection to Icke and you're censored! haha.

Go Icke. Lizards are icky!

both. excellent historical and political info, flimsy at best evidence (of his discredit every thing I said just before this) lizard people run it all sumation.

I couldn't resist sorry Ike lovers, and Mod's

reply to post by BeyondBelow


yeah the "hybrid families" was targeted as anti-semitic. You gotta watch the doc on Icke -- great stuff -- Jews, Lizards and Icke....

I'm listening to this new radio interview.

I think he's a mix. I'm currently reading The Biggest Secret by him, and I've come to the conclusion that part of what he says is true while the rest is him making links where there are none. As you can probably tell, I'm a skeptic, but I can see his logic in his research and the way he presents his ideas. However, some of them are a bit too far-fetched for me to think they're possible.

I think Mr Icke is self serving and in it for the money,yes he throws enough uncommon known truths out there but you never get the 'whole' truth for if you did he would not have a further book,DVD or lecture to sell you,he does not give 'freely' of his information ,his website is very commercial and his forum very micro managed,he might be tolerated because they know hes never going to give the whole game away.

Greetings and salutations

Supposedly a reptilian conspiracy is linked to the Illuminati whom practice dark rituals. So supposedly they may be able to shape-shift, due to eating human parts and drinking blood. Which Ambrosia is the drink of the "gods" supposedly was Menstrual Blood.

April 19-May 1st is the worship of the sun god Baal, in which human sacrifices are used. Which by the way is on the dollar: In God (Baal) We Trust. For without the sun, no life would exist on this planet.

They use Religious Jewish Law, because of court systems, real-estate, banking, etc. included in Jewish Religious books.

They then control the masses through every means necessary. Including brainwashing Christians, whom are used to fight a lot of wars for the Illuminati, then cash in on their life insurance.

After seeing all the manipulation and death throughout a 2,000 year period I can see how people may relate to saying, our government is full of reptilians.

Are they really reptilians though? The world may never know. I reserve my right, to my opinion about reptilians and that I keep to myself.

I have not went very deep into Icke's story, but I am going to go check it out some more.
Has anyone looked into Eduard "Billy" Meier? Cuz his story, besides the pictures and vid, is so incredible. Don't want to change topic, but his story makes so much more sense to me than Icke's, so what are people's opinion about Meier? Why doesn't anyone mention him. is there something i don't know? Thanks guys.

reply to post by LifeIsEnergy

Hiya, Billy Meier got a lot of people's interest in weirdness going. I was a big fan at 14....and read Light Ships a few times. Since then a lot of his images have been proven to be faked. Most guys now believe him to be a fraud.

I personally believe Icke is a scheming snake-oil salesman with mental health issues...just an opinion