Yuri Alekseyevich Gagarin

How can you PROVE he was the first person in outerspace.
There is absolutly no way.

Do you really think they would mention a failure?
Do you really think they would mention a first sucess?

They might, by why would they? I wouldn't.

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You really have to be ignorant to think there isn't a secret astronauts division.

You know what happens to the people who hold the biggest and best secrets? They get ahead.



This isn't a forum applying that i personaly believe that Yuri Alekseyevich Gagarin was not the first in outerspace. I just want people to take a new look, leave your opinion.

There is no need to bash, i never said i believe in any of this, it has come to mind as a possibility which is why i want to debate the topic.

so lets just have some fun

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I believe he did go into space, because going into space is much easier than landing on the moon, which I do believe the Americans eventually did, it was just that they couldn't fail the first time, so the allegation is that it was staged just in case something wrong went the first time around, because that had the potential to doom the American space program... They needed heroes that time and the astronauts were the perfect heroes...Preferably alive.

The Russians did experiment with a dog first, but they had to poison the dog in the end since the dog couldn't come back.

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Thats what i mean, this would be a mission where failure is not a option.


Which is why I believe there is a chance he wasn't the first in space, he was the first to be published about. I doubt very much he was the first viste.

Even if they send a dog, cat, to space, an it lives, you dont know what implications it will have on a human just because a dog survived, does not label it safe.

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The Space Race was linked to the Cold War. These guys knew damn near everything that the other did and stole ideas along the way. If this wasn't true I'd imagine that there would have been corroborating evidence by now.

you can't be so sure about that.

i'm pretty sure this country is good at hush hush.

This is a similar question to the moon landings. Its up to you personaly to decide.

I personaly believe he was the first in space because lying about it would be a lot harder to achieve than actualy doing it. Its not that hard to put a man in space when you think about it.

They would'nt have been to concerned about the effects it had on humans.

A. because they'd already sent chimps up there and they returned with no ill effects.

B. He was'nt going to be spending any great length of time up there, and he himself was a kind of test dummie.

Really its just like the first flight at 35,000 ft. Every preperation would have been made to ensure success. All it took was the first man with the balls to try it out for real. Whether he failed or not he was always asured a place in history. Thats good enough for some people.

i feel like it makes absoloute sense to think that there was a man or a group of men/women in space before the first man in space was announced publicly via the media, on the other hand it also makes sense to think not but the only reason for that is because there is really no substantial evidence being provided right now,(not saying there isn't any). It'd be interesting if we could get something that'd give us info because it'd give us a better idea of weather or not were so easily tricked by our government while also giving rise to new theories as to why the wouldn't tell us.