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originally posted by: Marduk
originally posted by: raymundoko
but obviously there is no Nibiru.
Babylonian astronomy
In the MUL.APIN, Nibiru is identified as Jupiter:
When the stars of Enlil have been finished, one big star – although its light is dim – divides the sky in half and stands there: that is, the star of Marduk (MUL dAMAR.UD), Nibiru (né-bé-ru), Jupiter (MULSAG.ME.GAR); it keeps changing its position and crosses the sky.
In a 2015 report for the Cuneiform Digital Library Bulletin,[9] Immanuel Freedman analyzed the extant cuneiform evidence and concluded that the hypothesis that the name Nēbiru may be assigned to any visible astronomical object that marks an equinox is supported by cuneiform evidence.
originally posted by: Harte
Since the description is unclear in the quote you provided, I've always thought that maybe this was another use of the term Nibiru as "crossing point." In the case you provided, it would mean that Jupiter was only considered "Nibiru" in the context of position in the sky. My quote says at the equinox, but I'd go along with either that or a solstice, since all three positions could be viewed as points of "crossing" by the observed planet.
Harte
In the MUL.APIN, Nibiru is identified as Jupiter:
originally posted by: Marduk
originally posted by: Harte
and not named as such. Jupiter was called Marduk during the Babylonian period and Enlil earlier than that, or rather more specifically "the planet of"
So Nibiru is an epithet. It originally is derived from the word for "Ford", not the car, the river crossing..
And as they believed that they sky was made of water, as above so below...
It is certainly not a noun, so Sitchin claiming it is, is just another example that shows he couldn't read Sumerian
This is interesting.. Jupiter was called Marduk 'enki's son' during the Babylonian period? This i did not know... that would explain my "Dream''.
I watched this show 15 yrs ago, these two guys explained in detail that the earths weather patterns prior to the flood were as well.. the garden of eden. Perfectly balanced. No rain No snow No storms or Disasters. That is, until the layer around the earth was pierced by.. 'not yet sure'. the Firmament above the Planet was pierced causing the flood of all floods, as we understand from various accounts around the world.
originally posted by: awareness10
This is interesting.. Jupiter was called Marduk 'enki's son' during the Babylonian period? This i did not know... that would explain my "Dream''.
I watched this show 15 yrs ago, these two guys explained in detail that the earths weather patterns prior to the flood were as well.. the garden of eden. Perfectly balanced. No rain No snow No storms or Disasters. That is, until the layer around the earth was pierced by.. 'not yet sure'. the Firmament above the Planet was pierced causing the flood of all floods, as we understand from various accounts around the world.
originally posted by: Marduk
originally posted by: awareness10
This is interesting.. Jupiter was called Marduk 'enki's son' during the Babylonian period? This i did not know... that would explain my "Dream''.
I watched this show 15 yrs ago, these two guys explained in detail that the earths weather patterns prior to the flood were as well.. the garden of eden. Perfectly balanced. No rain No snow No storms or Disasters. That is, until the layer around the earth was pierced by.. 'not yet sure'. the Firmament above the Planet was pierced causing the flood of all floods, as we understand from various accounts around the world.
So your dream was based on creationism and nothing to do with reality
originally posted by: awareness10
I did'nt get to tell you my dream though
originally posted by: awareness10but for the record, nothing in this so called reality is real, so it matters not.
The history of gold begins in remote antiquity. But without hard archaeological evidence to pinpoint the time and place of man's first happy encounter with the yellow metal, we can only conjecture about those persons, who at various places and at different times first came upon native gold. Experts of fossil study have observed that bits of natural gold were found in Spanish caves used by the Paleolithic Man about 40,000 B.C. Consequently, it is not surprising that historical sources cannot agree on the precise date that gold was first used. One states that gold's recorded discovery occurred circa 6000 B.C. Another mentions that the pharaohs and temple priests used the relic metal for adornment in ancient Egypt circa 3000 B.C. However, it is curious to note that the early Egyptian's medium of exchange was not gold but barley. The first use of gold as money in 700 B.C. is claimed by the citizens of the Kingdom of Lydia (western Turkey). Surely, you remember the kingdom of the famous fortune seeking King Croesus - circa 550 B.C.