Modern GUILLOTINES Confirmed at Ft. Lewis, WA

The article Pam Shuffert wrote rings of 100% bull#$it. Shes riding on a bus and meets a Ranger from Ft. Lewis who then proceeds to show her all of his knives and a 445 Mag pistol... what? I've never heard of that cal. then she goes on to say he's in platoon 64 what! I've never heard anything like that! The whole story is a crock. Oh and the best part is that the army is going to use the guillotines in an underground base to behead resistors to the NWO and Christians. Man come on, give me a break.

Originally posted by MMPI2

Originally posted by MolecularPhD
I would like to make clear that I am in no way promoting Christian Doctrine. ...

I wanted to make this clear as to stop the posting of those that would say I am directly promoting the Christian Faith.

Sincerely

TheGhost

Goodness knows, we can't have anybody talking about Jesus Christ, or the 10 Commandments, or doing good and loving your neighbor here on ATS....

Now, I'd like to speak a little bit about someone who needs to be in your life. His name is Lucifer, and you should think about what he can do for YOU!

Of course he is going to deny Christian doctrine. Their the ones who will be
going to the guilotines. The guys not stupid.

I've spent several hours on the net and the only story that comes up is the original story. If this story were true there would be at least a few stories from independent witnesses but I cannot even find one. I'd expect leaks from the manufacturers' workers or other contractors connected with the operation, as well as the soldiers supposedly trained to use the devices. As far as the camps are concerned I do believe that they exist but the coffins could be intended for innocent purposes, especially when we consider the extra large size which is could be designed for placing regular sized wooden coffins into them.
The other possibility that came to mind was that the guillotines story was cooked up as a means of scaring the living # out of the US population. Bullets are one thing but guillotines? Very very scary piece of disinformation. However I don't think it's disinformation either, otherwise the story would be more widespread, it would be everywhere, which it is not.
At this point I don't think the US population has anything to worry about, not from the chopping block anyway.

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I agree 100%, youre not even supposed to wear BDUs in transit, unless youre coming back from the 'front' on R&R, as you see with troops coming home from the mideast
this is bullcrap, plain and smple

No credible sources, no reality. Sorry, but as a soldier's wife, and a veteran, I find this report far from credible. Military bases are not, for the most part, closed off from non-military people, and are filled with civilian workers, family members, etc. Such a thing is so unlikely as to be near impossible.

Originally posted by MolecularPhD
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That is not true. I spent twelve and half years as an Officer in the US Army; and on several Occasions was forced to take the Greyhound or Amtrak to different bases. I always carried my service sidearm, often times caring other weapons of personal protection as well.

Wrong. Married to a soldier, and they had issues even getting their rifles on a plane to DEPLOY. You are not supposed to be armed on public transportation. If you were, was against the rules.

this whole story is bs plain and simple....good fantasy reading tho lol

Originally posted by Grey Magic
when does this crap stop, the last time when a guillotine was used in good fashion was 17 January 1793.

Patently wrong:
en.wikipedia.org...

In 1933 Adolf Hitler had a guillotine constructed and tested. He was impressed enough to order 20 more constructed and pressed into immediate service. Nazi records indicate that between 1933 and 1945, 16,500 people were executed in Germany and Austria by this method. In Nazi Germany, beheading by guillotine was the usual method of executing convicted criminals as opposed to political enemies, who were usually[citation needed] either hanged or shot. By the middle of the war, however, policy changed: the six members of the White Rose anti-Nazi resistance organisation were beheaded in 1943, as were a hundred or more conscientious objectors from that date, including Franz Jägerstätter, beheaded in Berlin on 9 August 1943. The last execution in what would later become West Germany took place on 11 May 1949, when 24-year-old Berthold Wehmeyer was beheaded in Moabit prison, West Berlin, for murder and robbery. When West Germany was formed in 1949, its constitution prohibited the death penalty; East Germany abolished it in 1987, and Austria in 1968.

and

The guillotine remained the official method of execution in France until France abolished the death penalty in 1981.[13] The last guillotining in France was that of torture-murderer Hamida Djandoubi on September 10, 1977.

I'm not going to comment on the guillotines, or Pam's mental state but I will say this: Public Law 102-14 simply designated March 26th, 1991 as a holiday called "Education Day U.S.A." It called for the people of the U.S. to recognize the "values" on which our country was founded. That is all. We are not and will not be forced to follow the talmud (Noahide laws) or anything like that.

See what reading can do?

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Guillotines??? How absurd. As far as terrifying the onlookers, it did no such thing. People turned out in droves to watch the executions, witness the execution of Eugen Weidmann...

en.wikipedia.org...

Public executions in France were ended after that because of the circus like atmosphere surrounding them.

Also to say that the guillotine is the only form of execution that allows the harvest of organs is ridiculous...a small caliber bullet to the base of the skull is not only more efficient, but also a lot less expensive.

Last word about the guillotine myth...if there are indeed hundreds of "modern" guillotines floating around this country, why is the only photo that we are being shown as proof is the prop of a Model 1792. I say prop, as it contains none of the hardware to make it an operating unit.....see for yourself.

www.guillotine.dk...

I first heard of these guillotines shortly after 911. This rumor has been floating that long. why would they be so far out in front of any plan to use such a thing. That being said I follow Christ and his teachings. I don't see how guillotines PROMOTE christian doctine.

Originally posted by randyvs
That being said I follow Christ and his teachings. I don't see how guillotines PROMOTE christian doctine.

I'm also a follower of Christ, and I agree with you. The problem here is people are "filling in the blanks", taking a scriptural passage and expanding it to say things that it does not actually say. Here is the passage:

Revelation 20:4
Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

Clearly absent from this passage is any mention of a guillotine. In fact one could just as easily say that these souls were beheaded via knife/ sword as is popular with Islamic extremists, but that too would be jumping to conclusions because the fact is the passage does not describe how it happens. Some people are looking for evidence of the End Times in the strangest places, I find it really odd because there are plenty of signs to look at all around us without dreaming up secret guillotines hidden on military bases.

I have a special wood chipper that i will use against the new world intruders when they fall through my floors, when they decide they want to raid

guillotines are sooo yesterday, except for my razor sharp ceiling mounted door pendulum grader blade

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Clearly absent from this passage is any mention of a guillotine. In fact one could just as easily say that these souls were beheaded via knife/ sword as is popular with Islamic extremists, but that too would be jumping to conclusions because the fact is the passage does not describe how it happens. Some people are looking for evidence of the End Times in the strangest places, I find it really odd because there are plenty of signs to look at all around us without dreaming up secret guillotines hidden on military bases.

And of course this is exactly what I'm saying. Even the impression of the number of these guillotines you get
from these rumors is perposterous in my view. With out losing sight of what is to come and what has been written I still say why speculate ? Other than fear. I don't fear a guillotine like I fear God. Almost as if that's the message being sent. Scaring people away from Christ ?

I have read that they are basically predicting a massive financial depression, empty shelves etc.

It could be the catalyst for a war, and if they use the nukes the excuse for an alien takeover.

Perhaps an exception clause: Class II planets not to be disturbed unless inhabitants pose a significant threat to themselves.

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Good point, Pocky! So here is the plan....smoke like a chimney, drink like a fish, screw like a...well you get the drift. Make your body unfit for harvesting.