Afghanistan held secret peace talks with Taliban

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Interesting point of view. I'm looking forward to hearing more.

thanks

Insurgent Faction Presents Afghan Peace Plan

The delegation represents fighters loyal to Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, 60, one of the most brutal of Afghanistan’s former resistance fighters who leads a part of the insurgency against American, NATO and Afghan forces in the north and northeast of the country.

His representatives met Monday with President Karzai and other Afghan officials in the first formal contact between a major insurgent group and the Afghan government after almost two years of backchannel communications, which diplomats say have been supported by the United States.

Though the insurgent group, Hezb-i-Islami, or Islamic Party, operates under a separate command from the Taliban, it has links to the Taliban leadership and Al Qaeda and has fought on a common front against foreign forces in Afghanistan.

A spokesman for the delegation, Mohammad Daoud Abedi, said the Taliban, which makes up the bulk of the insurgency, would be willing to go along with the plan if a date was set for the withdrawal of foreign forces from the country. Publicly, a Taliban spokesman denied that.

The plan, titled the National Rescue Agreement, a copy of which was given to The New York Times, sets that date as July 2010, with the withdrawal to be completed within six months.

Hamid Karzai, the Afghan president, has been talking peace with former allies of the Taliban.

It is his first confirmed direct contact in Kabul with the Hezb-e-Islami, one of three main groups fighting the government.

The fighters have handed him a 15-point peace plan, which includes demands for the withdrawal of international troops.

Al Jazeera's David Chater reports from Kabul.

You know withdrawal is coming. You know that we will make a deal.

The signs are in the air for all Afghans/Taliban to reunite and live peacefully forever.

Afghanistan confirmed for the first time publicly on Tuesday that it had enacted into law a blanket pardon for war crimes and human rights abuse carried out before 2001.

Human rights groups have expressed dismay that the law appeared to have been enacted quietly, granting blanket immunity to members of all armed factions for acts committed during decades of war before the fall of the Taliban.

President Hamid Karzai had promised not to sign the National Stability and Reconciliation Law, when it was passed by parliament in 2007

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Do you really think nobody knew about this bill that was passed in 2007?

Wow it has been a very busy day.
Check this article out.

Afghan insurgents offer to make peace and act as go-between with Taliban

One of the main insurgent groups fighting the Afghan government and its Nato backers said today that it was ready to make peace and act as a bridge to the Taliban if the US began pulling out troops next year, as planned.

A spokesman for a delegation from the Hezb-i-Islami, which has been holding talks in Kabul this week with President Hamid Karzai, said the group's initiative was prompted by Barack Obama's declaration that American forces would begin to be drawn down.

"There is a formula: 'no enemy is an enemy forever, no friend is a friend forever,' " Mohammad Daoud Abedi told Reuters. "If that's what the international community with the leadership of the United States of America is planning – to leave – we had better make the situation honourable enough for them to leave with honour."

Oh yeah I almost forgot this one.

U.S. works to win support of opium farmers

Coalition and Afghan forces are developing plans to provide jobs or financial assistance to opium poppy farmers who lost their buyers when a joint U.S.-Afghan offensive drove the Taliban from Marjah last month.

"We're looking at every option," said Marine Col. Randy Newman, a regimental commander whose forces helped spearhead the offensive.

Marines are in the final stages of an overall assistance plan that they can offer to farmers in Marjah, Helmand province. They are considering tapping into a cash for work program and other funding sources. Poppies are about to flower and the harvest will begin in coming weeks.

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Petraeus: Taliban have reached out to reconcile

BAGRAM, Afghanistan — The top commander in Afghanistan says Taliban leaders have reached out to the Afghan government seeking reconciliation.Gen. David Petraeus told reporters Monday that very high-level Taliban leaders have reached out to the highest levels of the government. President Hamid Karzai has long said that he will talk to insurgents if they renounce violence, sever ties to terrorists and embrace the constitution.

I don't think anyone will fall for a Taliban peace.
Since the secret talks in Texas with the Taliban we don't like them.
ED: Sorry SLAYER69 but thats just the way it is.

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Thanks for your input.
Only time will tell if this pans out or if it's just another stalling tactic.

well speaking of myself i have no confidence in any afghanistan victory for obvious reasons(the military has my full confidence but obamas micromanaging i dont)

it is my belief is the taliban sending out a faint to position themselves for later actions in afghanistan.

you cannot trust anything they do taliban are the taliban they are hardcore ideologs after 9 years of war

suddenly they want peace? common people these are the people who fought the soviets to the death and fought us to the death.

im not buying it a wounded animal is still dangerous and so are they

if you want victory in afghanistan fake a retreat then encircle and slam the hammer on the nail

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i aint him im just me

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Afghan Leader Names Council for Talks With Taliban

KABUL, Afghanistan — Repeating his determination to find a peaceful solution to the war, President Hamid Karzai named a 70-member peace council on Tuesday, a long-awaited announcement that was the government’s first concrete step to open formal contacts with the Taliban.

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"But some immediately dismissed Mr. Karzai’s council as unworkable, given that its membership was dominated largely by anti-Taliban figures. ""

its not workable for the simple fact taliban ideology contradicts everything the anti taliban want and no matter how one looks at it if they yielld one inch it is essentially validating their radical beliefs and treatment of women of their society to impose their will on those who wish to follow them only morons would seek that.

While a handful of influential people from the former Taliban government have been included, the council is heavily weighted with many of the same factional leaders who have dominated the wars and politics of the past 30 years, and who have been fighting the Taliban for half that time. "

the radical factions have been fighting themselves for decades for their own piece of pie and when you got in their way they killed them this will not change anything whatsoever

"Mr. Karzai also named at least eight women.............."“

the talibans treatment of women speak for itself and as women there is no way they will ever comprimise go back to the days of old.

The most important thing is that there is willingness and freedom from both sides to move towards peace talks,”

while there may be willingness all sides are as diametrically opposed that there will never be anything


“No one will win this war,” Mr. Rahmani said. “When the Taliban were in power they still could not control the whole country, and they know that.”

hes right when the taliban were in power they raped and murdered everyone who werent taliban even tho they did control the whole country that caused considerable damaged to those people who had different beleifs.


if the taliban want to come into the modern world and throw off cast off the ways of old and acutally want peace

they themselves have to look within and make the change and live by that change that their beliefs are a clear danger to them and their country and its people.


this will never happen they believe that everything they have done and continue to do is has been nothing but the will of allah.

there will never be any peace whatsoever until the taliban are no more those thoughts and those beleifs are either killed off or casts off by themselves.


my 2 cents