DEW/Energy Weapons? Holograms? TV Fakery? No Planes at the WTC? -- A 9/11 Disinfo Campaign

That was the last message I sent,

Excuse me?

a reply to: wildb

That last message I posted says it all. Now, prove me wrong.

a reply to: skyeagle409

No it does not say anything at all, however the last ACARS message sent at 9:23a routed through Pittsburgh does..

a reply to: wildb

No it does not say anything at all, however the last ACARS message sent at 9:23a routed through Pittsburgh does..

No it doesn't. Do you know why? The message was not sent or received by United 175. Go back and read my first message on ACARS. 9/11 conspiracy theorist do not understand how ACARS works.

Now, look at the following message and notice that they lost track of United 175 at 9:03 a.m. local time.

DDLXCXA CHIYR CHI58R
.CHIYRUA 111303/AD
CMD
AN N612UA/GL MDT
- QDCHIYRUA 1UA175 BOSLAX
- MESSAGE FROM CHIDD -
NY APROACH LOOKIN FOR YA ON 127.4
CHIDD AD ROGERS

;09111303 108575 0546

The dispatcher who sent the ACARS messages to United 175, at 9:23 AM, was unaware that Uinited 175 had crash at 9:03 AM, so the next avenue to use was to look at the flight plan of United 175 for routing purposes because United 175 had already crashed in Manhattan. Remember, the dispatcher later confirmed that United 175 was the aircraft that crashed into the WTC 2 which explains the press conference conducted by United Airlines at 11:53 AM, confirming that United 175 was the aircraft that crashed into the WTC building.

The dispatcher who sent the ACARS messages to United 175, at 9:23 AM, was unaware that Uinited 175 had crash at 9:03 AM

a reply to: wildb

Really...



DDLXCXA CHIAK CH158R
.CHIAKUA DA 111323/ED
CMD
AN N612UA/GL PIT
- QUCHIYRUA 1UA175 BOSLAX
- MESSAGE FROM CHIDD -
/BEWARE ANY COCKPIT INTROUSION: TWO AIRCAFT IN NY . HIT TRADE C
NTER BUILDS...
CHIDD ED BALLINGER

;09111323 108575 0574

a reply to: wildb

Really...

That's right! You will notice the name; ED BALLINGER. He was the dispatcher who sent the message at 9:23 a.m. local time unaware that United 175 had crashed at 9:03 a.m. Ed Ballinger would later confirm that United 175 crashed into WTC 2.

At 11:53 a.m. September 11, 2001: United Airlines publicly confirms that Flight 175 has crashed.

He was the dispatcher who sent the message at 9:23 a.m. local time unaware that United 175 had crashed at 9:03 a.m. Ed Ballinger would later confirm that United 175 crashed

Pretty telling I must say..

a reply to: wildb

That's right. Just look at Ballinger's message to United 175 at 9:23 a.m. as calling a home phone and no one's home.

a reply to: skyeagle409

Nice you admit to the 9:23 call, but you fail to address PIT..

a reply to: wildb

It was never a secret that the message was sent by the dispatcher, not from United 175.

I have to make it very clear that the routing of the ACARS messages were based on the flight plan of United 175 and not the location of the aircraft and that is another reason why there were no radar tracks for United 175 after 9:03,AM in the Harrisburg or Pittsburg areas.

You use radar tracking to precisely locate an aircraft, not uplinked ACARS messages.

a reply to: wildb

Nice you admit to the 9:23 call, but you fail to address PIT.

I want to add the rest of the story.

9:22 a.m. September 11, 2001: United Airlines Manager Issues Advisory Stating Flight 175 Was in Accident event

Rich Miles, the manager of United Airlines’ System Operations Control center, located outside Chicago, issues an advisory to all United Airlines facilities, including the flight dispatchers. This advisory, which is issued under the name of UAL Chief Operating Officer Andy Studdert, states that Flight 175 has been involved in an accident in New York City, and that the airline’s crisis center has been activated. [WALL STREET JOURNAL, 10/15/2001; 9/11 COMMISSION, 8/26/2004, PP. 26]

This appears to be United Airlines’ first proper confirmation that Flight 175 has crashed. However, it will not issue a press release confirming the crash until 11:53 a.m.

Now, let's jump to United's announcement at 11:53 a.m.

11:53 a.m. September 11, 2001: United Airlines Publicly Confirms that Flight 175 Has Crashed

United Airlines finally issues a press release confirming that Flight 175 has crashed, nearly three hours after this aircraft hit the World Trade Center.

The release states, “United Airlines has now confirmed that two of its aircraft have crashed.” These include “United Flight 175, a Boeing 767 aircraft, [that] departed from Boston at 7:58 a.m. local time, bound for Los Angeles, with 56 passengers onboard, two pilots and seven flight attendants.” United Airlines previously issued a press release, at 11:17, confirming the crash of Flight 93, but this had stated that the airline was, at that time, only “deeply concerned” about Flight 175. However, at 9:22, the United Airlines System Operations Control manager had issued an advisory to all the airline’s facilities, stating that Flight 175 had been in an accident in New York. And Colin Scoggins, the military liaison at the FAA’s Boston Center, will later claim that United confirmed to the center that Flight 175 was down, “within two or three minutes.”

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In other words, United 175 was nowhere near Pittsburgh nor even airborne after 9:03 a.m. 9/11 conspiracy theorist didn't understand the ACARS protocol and as a result, they concocted another unfounded and baseless conspiracy theory.

I am 100% certain United Airlines 175 did not crash into the WTC as alleged. Primary radar did not track a plane crashing into the WTC. We see some similarities to the missing MH370 jet. The planes were holograms and some wreckage was scattered to make it seem official. The acars and military tracking showed there may have been a duplicate plane registered as UA 175. However according to FAA time schedules, no UA 175 flight was scheduled that day from what I recall. This can be verified with historical flight schedules if those still exist from OAG and other sources.

CEO James Goodwin wound up resigning from United Airlines due to the losses from the 9-11 incident.

In Judge Hellersteins courtroom in NYC, passengers claims were settled and given UA 175 was not the plane which crashed in the WTC, did it crash elsewhere or did the boeing interruptable control system bring the dead passengers and plane to another location?

Field Mcconnell lead the charge against Boeing to disclose this system was installed. He was a former pilot with Northwest Airlines. You can google and see Boeing settled for millions of dollars.

If no passengers died, why would United have settled any claims at all? Did the courtroom surpress evidence and claims were faked?

That is the confusing part of this alleged crash. Not the other overwhelming evidence.

I have seen all the evidence and I don't care what anyone else thinks and I am not looking to argue any other facts other than the questions I asked to look for answers to it because the rest is quite obvious from detailed research and scientific inquiery.

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb

Nice you admit to the 9:23 call, but you fail to address PIT.

I want to add the rest of the story.

9:22 a.m. September 11, 2001: United Airlines Manager Issues Advisory Stating Flight 175 Was in Accident event

Rich Miles, the manager of United Airlines’ System Operations Control center, located outside Chicago, issues an advisory to all United Airlines facilities, including the flight dispatchers. This advisory, which is issued under the name of UAL Chief Operating Officer Andy Studdert, states that Flight 175 has been involved in an accident in New York City, and that the airline’s crisis center has been activated. [WALL STREET JOURNAL, 10/15/2001; 9/11 COMMISSION, 8/26/2004, PP. 26]

This appears to be United Airlines’ first proper confirmation that Flight 175 has crashed. However, it will not issue a press release confirming the crash until 11:53 a.m.

Now, let's jump to United's announcement at 11:53 a.m.

11:53 a.m. September 11, 2001: United Airlines Publicly Confirms that Flight 175 Has Crashed

United Airlines finally issues a press release confirming that Flight 175 has crashed, nearly three hours after this aircraft hit the World Trade Center.

The release states, “United Airlines has now confirmed that two of its aircraft have crashed.” These include “United Flight 175, a Boeing 767 aircraft, [that] departed from Boston at 7:58 a.m. local time, bound for Los Angeles, with 56 passengers onboard, two pilots and seven flight attendants.” United Airlines previously issued a press release, at 11:17, confirming the crash of Flight 93, but this had stated that the airline was, at that time, only “deeply concerned” about Flight 175. However, at 9:22, the United Airlines System Operations Control manager had issued an advisory to all the airline’s facilities, stating that Flight 175 had been in an accident in New York. And Colin Scoggins, the military liaison at the FAA’s Boston Center, will later claim that United confirmed to the center that Flight 175 was down, “within two or three minutes.”

web.archive.org...

www.historycommons.org...

In other words, United 175 was nowhere near Pittsburgh nor even airborne after 9:03 a.m. 9/11 conspiracy theorist didn't understand the ACARS protocol and as a result, they concocted another unfounded and baseless conspiracy theory.

a reply to: BlackOp007

I am 100% certain United Airlines 175 did not crash into the WTC as alleged.

That makes you 100% wrong.

Primary radar did not track a plane crashing into the WTC.

Radar tracked the 9/11 aircraft to the crash site at ground zero, to the Pentagon, and near Shanksville.

CEO James Goodwin wound up resigning from United Airlines due to the losses from the 9-11 incident.

The losses to United Airlines were United 93 and United 175.

In Judge Hellersteins courtroom in NYC, passengers claims were settled and given UA 175 was not the plane which crashed in the WTC, did it crash elsewhere or did the boeing interruptable control system bring the dead passengers and plane to another location?

That is a fabrication, which can be used to discredit the Truth Movement.

a reply to: BlackOp007

I am 100% certain United Airlines 175 did not crash into the WTC as alleged. Primary radar did not track a plane crashing into the WTC. We see some similarities to the missing MH370 jet. The planes were holograms and some wreckage was scattered to make it seem official. The acars and military tracking showed there may have been a duplicate plane registered as UA 175. However according to FAA time schedules, no UA 175 flight was scheduled that day from what I recall. This can be verified with historical flight schedules if those still exist from OAG and other sources.

UNITED 175 not exist....?

SO why is UAL175 then contacting New York Air traffic ....??

NY traffic control was looking for American 11 and querying nearby planes to see if anybody had seen or heard anything from AA11.

One of the last transmissions from United Airlines Flight 175 is, in retrospect, chilling. By 8:40, controllers at the FAA’s New York Center were seeking information on American 11. At approximately 8:42, shortly after entering New York Center’s airspace, the pilot of United 175 broke in with the following transmission:

UAL 175: New York UAL 175 heavy.

FAA: UAL 175 go ahead.

UAL 175:Yeah.We figured we’d wait to go to your center. Ah, we heard a suspicious transmission on our departure out of Boston, ah, with someone, ah, it sounded like someone keyed the mikes and said ah everyone ah stay in your seats.

FAA: Oh, okay. I’ll pass that along over here.

Minutes later, United 175 turned southwest without clearance from air traffic control. At 8:47, seconds after the impact of American 11, United 175’s transponder code changed, and then changed again. These changes were not noticed for several minutes, however, because the same New York Center controller was assigned to both American 11 and United 175. The controller knew American 11 was hijacked; he was focused on searching for it after the aircraft disappeared at 8:46.
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At 8:51, the controller noticed the transponder change from United 175 and tried to contact the aircraft. There was no response. Beginning at 8:52, the controller made repeated attempts to reach the crew of United 175. Still no response. The controller checked his radio equipment and contacted another controller at 8:53, saying that “we may have a hijack” and that he could not find the aircraft.

NY controllers also noticed UAL175 changing its transponder codes - these would show up traffic control radar

Holograms dont leave radar tracks

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UA 175 search was kept alive past the alleged crash into the WTC since they were not sure what had happened to the plane. And only till much later did they acknowledge the plane crashed without stating any location of the crash.

Holograms don't leave radar tracks. The primary radar track was not a plane which crashed into WTC. A fellow analyzed the tracks, Richard D. Hall.


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originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: BlackOp007

I am 100% certain United Airlines 175 did not crash into the WTC as alleged.

That makes you 100% wrong.

Primary radar did not track a plane crashing into the WTC.

Radar tracked the 9/11 aircraft to the crash site at ground zero, to the Pentagon, and near Shanksville.

CEO James Goodwin wound up resigning from United Airlines due to the losses from the 9-11 incident.

The losses to United Airlines were United 93 and United 175.

In Judge Hellersteins courtroom in NYC, passengers claims were settled and given UA 175 was not the plane which crashed in the WTC, did it crash elsewhere or did the boeing interruptable control system bring the dead passengers and plane to another location?

That is a fabrication, which can be used to discredit the Truth Movement.

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a reply to: firerescue

NY traffic control was looking for American 11 and querying nearby planes to see if anybody had seen or heard anything from AA11.

American 11 was hijacked and the transponder was tampered with and that is the reason.

NY controllers also noticed UAL175 changing its transponder codes - these would show up traffic control radar

Holograms dont leave radar tracks

United 175 still left a radar track despite the fact the transponder was tampered with. Remember, the B-767 is not a stealth aircraft and even stealth aircraft are not totally invisible to radar. 9/11 conspiracy theorist were unaware of that fact and as a result, they concocted another unfounded and baseless conspiracy theory.

a reply to: BlackOp007

Just to let you know that your video has been debunked and is used to discredit 9/11 conspiracy theorist because some 9/11 conspiracy theorist didn't bother to do their homework to understand that the guy in your video was taking them for a ride to the cleaners.

I might add that there are 9/11 conspiracy theorist who have trashed the 9/11 hologram theory.

a reply to: BlackOp007

A fellow analyzed the tracks, Richard D. Hall. While he speculates a missile hit wtc, which could have, the plane itself was a likely hologram with planted evidence.

To put it simply, he is making a mockery of 9/11 conspiracy theorist who have subscribed to his hologram fabrication and to further add, there are other 9/11 conspiracy theorist who are not taking his hologram bait.