Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents

This will be the best thing that ever happened to that young child. When she gets older, she will realize how the hand of God reached down from the heavens and saved her from abusive and ignorant nuns scarring her for life.

[edit on 3-8-2010 by groingrinder]

reply to post by crappiekat


Thanks crappiekat (great screenname) for pointing out the "readmitted". I think that's very important.

A question that seems unaddressed in the OP story is: Are either of the two parents Catholic? In other words, do either or both have a tie to the religion or perhaps gone to Catholic school themselves?

I don't think that should decide whether the victimized girl should go there or not, but it might serve to clarify the motives for wanting her to go there. I'd guess that there is SOME sort of tie-in there, as I don't recall any kids going to Catholic school where I grew up that did not have parents that also did so.

If that is the case, then I think it's outrageous. Don't even get me started on declassifying same-sex parents as "guardians". Oh crap. I'm doing that sideways neck thing again. I wish my wife had never taught me that.

edit to add: whilst my neck is still in motion, let me query: What is the school afraid of or threatened by? Really. Afraid of a small open mind running amok? Contact lesbianism? What?

[edit on 8/3/10 by argentus]

Originally posted by Alethea
This is just a little taste of what's coming. As the economy crashes people are becoming more dependent on religious charities. That's exactly what they want.

Sorry this dog won't hunt. It costs $money$ to send your kids to Catholic or other religious or private schools. Many schools have closed because of lack of demand/$.

When it comes to "dependency", it's the govt that is fostering it, not private charities. Did you miss that President Obama last year proposed reducing the charitable tax deduction? Guess so. This would just leave the govt as the almighty dispenser of "charity".

Source:
"Obama's Plan to Reduce Charitable Deductions for the Wealthy Draws Criticism"
"Some charities and nonprofit experts are worried that President Obama’s proposal to impose new limits on charitable tax deductions for wealthy people would dampen giving at a time when charities are under severe strain because of the recession."
philanthropy.com...

reply to post by pumpkinorange


This is why I mentioned the (contributor) Someone who gives alot of money to the church got wind of how the family lives, didn't like it and made a big deal out of it.
I don't deny the catholic church as a whole has really made a mess of things for themselves. But really when it comes to a single parish, they try to handle these things fairly. (at least in the area which I live in). These parishes need money to survive. If they can't support themselves the archdiocies will cut them off and close them down. (Meaning the school)within the parish. It almost happened to us. If the parish could'nt come up with a certain amount of pledges, they (the archdiocies) wasn,t going to back us up to upgrade our school, therefore we would have had to close.
Yes unfortunatly it's about money in the end.
I truly believe that this is what sparked this situation.
Really, with all the catholic parishs in the US and around the world, do you think this is the first time a situation like this has come up. This parish is just one that made headlines.

[edit on 8-3-2010 by crappiekat]

Originally posted by Nutter
Again. I wonder how many of those children come from divorced parents? I would like to know. Because, they should also be banned.

How many of those parents have oral sex? Have masterbated? Eaten shellfish? Etc., Etc.

Why is it that the so called "Christians" are the most bigoted?

There's a big difference to the Catholic church between living an openly sinful lifestyle and having committed sin, but repenting for it. Very few people fall into the first category, but EVERYONE falls into the second category.

A more accurate comparison would be a parent having oral sex in the school parking lot. That would likely get your kid expelled

Wow this school rejects this child for the "sins" of the parents and yet takes orders from the Vatican,an institution which has covered up and lied about its role in the sexual abuse of countless poor kids over god knows how many decades...Hmm smell the hypocracy folks!

"You cant come to school because your parents do not follow the rules of the church-but we will follow the rules of the church,even though they are enforced by a group of people who themselves do not follow said rules-in fact they pervert them in a manner far worse than your Lesbian parents."

They say.

Oh the double standards!

reply to post by Phlynx


as stephen colbert said the Bible is right
because the Bible said so, lol

on a serious note why would they send their kid to the school in the first place?
they should be more worried about their kid being molested since thats what seems to go along with cathlic priests.

Originally posted by Retseh

Originally posted by Nutter
Again. I wonder how many of those children come from divorced parents? I would like to know. Because, they should also be banned.

There's a big difference to the Catholic church between living an openly sinful lifestyle and having committed sin, but repenting for it. Very few people fall into the first category, but EVERYONE falls into the second category.

Being divorced is an on going sin according to the Catholic Church.

A more accurate comparison would be a parent having oral sex in the school parking lot. That would likely get your kid expelled

My comparison was accurate enough. A divorced person is living in sin according to the Church.

Divorce is a grave offense against the natural law. It claims to break the contract, to which the spouses freely consented, to live with each other until death. Sacramental marriage is the sign of the covenant of salvation, to which divorce does incredible injury. Contracting a new union, even if it is recognized by civil law, adds to the gravity of the rupture: the remarried spouse is then in a situation of public and permanent adultery. If a husband, separated from his wife, becomes involved with another woman, he is an adulterer because he makes that woman commit adultery; and the woman who lives with him is an adulteress, because she has drawn another's husband to herself

The Church responds by saying: “The Lord Jesus insisted on the original intention of the Creator who willed that marriage be indissoluble. He abrogates the accommodations that had slipped into the old Law. Between the baptized, ‘a ratified and consummated marriage cannot be dissolved by any human power or for any reason other than death.’

www.archden.org...

Being divorced is as much a sin as living in a homosexual relationship.

reply to post by wiseone11

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

I would go one step further in the case of the Catholic Church's handling of pedophile priests:

People in crêpe de Chine houses with papier-mâché roofs shouldn't catapult boulders.

I went to a Catholic School as a kid. When I graduated 8th grade I was 2 years ahead of the public school kids. I guess that is the advantage to a curriculum that isn't regulated by the state. I do think this is wrong, but private schools can make their own rules and reject anyone for anything. The strange part was that almost none of my teachers where catholic. I actually think one of them was an atheist, but she was a fantastic history teacher so I think that's why they kept her around (she never denounced the religious aspect, she just kept her mouth shut.). I bet my old school would have accepted this kid actually since one of the students was gay and they never did or said anything about it. Policies vary I'm sure.

P.S. My priest growing up is a good man and very wise. He has never made any attempts towards me or any other student that I know of and no reports where ever made. Not all priests are pedophiles.

I had someone tell me once, that if you want to see where the hypocrites are in church, just look in the front pews. But i will take it one step beyond that, just look at who is running that church.

You would think that they would accept the child with open arms... and then try and brainwash him. I bet they just didn't want to deal with the parents.

Reply to post by FiatLux

Glad I sit in the back. LOL

Too many generalizations in this thread. You guys need to get over it. Out of hundreds and thousands of priests, there are bound to be a few bad apples. Same as any group of people.

Do you guys think that all Muslims want to go jihad on the west? Are all teapartiers, truthers, birthers, etc. psychotics who want to kill people?

Making bbroad generalizations like that makes you a sheeple.


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Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
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Glad I sit in the back. LOL

Too many generalizations in this thread. You guys need to get over it. Out of hundreds and thousands of priests, there are bound to be a few bad apples. Same as any group of people.

Do you guys think that all Muslims want to go jihad on the west? Are all teapartiers, truthers, birthers, etc. psychotics who want to kill people?

Making bbroad generalizations like that makes you a sheeple.

 

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Does that make them sheeple, or, does that mean that they have opened their minds to something more then that one standard teaching? Did you not make a broad generalization by calling those others sheeple?

Maybe this is not really post, but means a lot:

Good!

reply to post by Phlynx


It's a private organization seems like they can accept who they wish.

If you have access to fox. Bill O Rilley is talking about this on his show tonite with a priest from the Catholic Church. Should be interesting.

I simply love the way that people have entered this discussion to call the catholic church hypocrites and prejudiced, but use 'examples' that make themselves hypocrites and prejudiced about members of the catholic faith/church,

ignore the names of the organisations involved and break it down to the basic facts of this discussion;

private school,
catering for a specific audience,
refusing to admit pupil that does not conform to its criteria,

discuss those facts (and any others) about that school and that circumstance or there is no point in being in this discussion,

end.

Originally posted by AmmonSeth
private school,

Go try and open a private white only club and see how long you'll be singing the tune of "they are a pivate organization and can do what they want".

catering for a specific audience,

And gays aren't a part of that audience? I thought that christians "love the sinner, hate the sin". Apparently not.

refusing to admit pupil that does not conform to its criteria,

How did the PUPIL not conform to the criteria?

discuss those facts (and any others) about that school and that circumstance or there is no point in being in this discussion,

Let's also discuss the fact that the catholic church considers people who are divorced perpetually living in sin too. Why aren't their children banned?

Just because you want to gloss over this fact, does not mean the 800 pound gorilla is not in the room.

In the infamous words of one of my studies from wicked jester:

"Why is there enough religion to incite war but not instill tolerance"

I think that is how I feel about this.