Blood Falls in Antarctica & Life Calls on Europa

reply to post by Kandinsky


Thanks.
I'm not sure of course, but the streaks, seems that "something" fluid gush out from the frozen surface, like antartica "blood falls".
Martian Bacteria?

Hops! There is a thread about this: www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 8-3-2010 by Arimbari]

reply to post by Kandinsky


No No agreed a correct analysis would be immediate at worst.

I just don't see the bit on rationale comin off the way corny makes it out to be all
missing X-file I'm digging for. I didn't quite absorb that the right way.
Seeing how "IT DOES LOOK EXACTLY LIKE BLOOD." hello.
WT. sorry

Any you guys some of you remember Kinnison right? shees time for ni ni.



Kandi thank you for a great thread, and the response about the ice tent
Thingy floatie mon. Your professionalism is worth respecting .

I'm goin belly up. so two zero niner this is fox trot do you have clearence clarence?

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Originally posted by Arimbari
reply to post by Kandinsky

 

Thanks.
I'm not sure of course, but the streaks, seems that "something" fluid gush out from the frozen surface, like antartica "blood falls".
Martian Bacteria?

Hops! There is a thread about this: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Martian microbes could be the next big event for all of us. The next few years (recession & cutbacks allowing) should see a determined effort by ESA/NASA to identify the source of the methane one Mars. Simultaneously, they'll be boiling, not *incinerating* Martian soil in search of evidence of microbial life. The mission is being put back...again.

The streaks in your image are...

There is a vast region of sand dunes at high northern latitudes on Mars. In the winter, a layer of carbon dioxide ice covers the dunes, and in the spring as the sun warms the ice it evaporates. This is a very active process, and sand dislodged from the crests of the dunes cascades down, forming dark streaks. In the subimage falling material has kicked up a small cloud of dust. The color of the ice surrounding adjacent streaks of material suggests that dust has settled on the ice at the bottom after similar events.

HiRise

reply to post by Kandinsky


Thanks.
I think that there is an important Link between the Antartica geological environment and Mars.
Only my opinion.

reply to post by randyvs

Kandi thank you for a great thread, and the response about the ice tent Thingy floatie mon. Your professionalism is worth respecting . I'm goin belly up. so two zero niner this is fox trot do you have clearence clarence?

Your posts are usually worth reading and you're an ATS gent. You're on my Xmas card list

Originally posted by randyvs
I just don't see the bit on rationale comin off the way corny makes it out to be all missing X-file I'm digging for. I didn't quite absorb that the right way.
Seeing how "IT DOES LOOK EXACTLY LIKE BLOOD." hello.

Is this referring to me? cute. Is that intended to be a subtle insult?

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by Curious and Concerned

 

Really? You call that "rational thinking"?

yayepado as far as each thought relating to the next one. Wha?
Did you happen to pay any attention to the other part of the post?"
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I honestly had no intentions of insulting you, but it appears our interpretation of "rational" thinking is completely different.

rational definition
adjective
1.of, based on, or derived from reasoning rational powers
2.able to reason; reasoning; in possession of one's reason or sanity
3.showing reason; not foolish or silly; sensible a rational argument

I don't believe asking why nature showed this to you now fits the above definition. Especially when a little bit of quick research showed that this has been around a long time. And I did pay attention to the rest of your post. What's your point by that? I was under the impression that rational thinking required logic. Not being completely different concepts. Oh well, that's the English language for you

Now if you had said "why is someone showing this to me?", I would have agreed that that could be rational thinking.

Again, I do not mean to insult and I apologise if it seemed that way. Just explaining my point of view and discussing the material at hand.

Thanks OP for the thread. I had seen this about a year ago, but it's always good to remember how amazing this world really is.

Cheers

[edit on 8-3-2010 by Curious and Concerned]

reply to post by Curious and Concerned

Thanks OP for the thread. I had seen this about a year ago, but it's always good to remember how amazing this world really is.

Thanks for posting too. It's worth understanding that the lake has been minding its own business for 2 million years or so. It's been known by us for maybe a 100 years or so.

Kinda puts our forum disputes into context, huh? It was there before we were walking this world and may well be there when we're gone....

Then again...on the scales...what's more significant? A static ecosystem or the crazy, rock n roll extravaganza that the human race has brought to Planet Earth? Those dinosaurs were headline acts...I think we might just have beaten them.

Originally posted by Ikema
First thought, "Holy Antarctica after-birth Batman!" My second was how much more omminious looking can you get? Imagine a deadly virus, let loose due to global warming?

And this is how I imagine the zombie apocalypse beginning...
Excuse me, I have to go sharpen my sword...

Not every image of Mars that looks like lifeforms is correct. However, being that life can thrive in some of the most insane places on Earth, I find it hard to fathom that there aren't any lifeforms (albeit simple) on Mars, more specifically, under Mars, in the soil. Heck life can survive on the solar panels of space stations in the vacuum of space, why couldn't it survive on Mars.

I hear if you drink this stuff, it gives you super powers.

Er, NO, That's not right.

It turns you into a dope smoking free lovin hippy. Best to leave it alone.

Red is a pretty common color in life forms. Not only red blood, red food, red wine, red colored animals, anything with lots of iron tends to be red.

This stuff has probably been bleeding into the sea for thousands of years.

I have to wonder if there is actually liquid under the ice if there isn't some unknown, geothermal heat source that keeps it in a liquid state. It would seem to me that there would have to be something that causes the liquid to flow. Otherwise, wouldn't it just be frozen ice.

Originally posted by poet1b

It would seem to me that there would have to be something that causes the liquid to flow. Otherwise, wouldn't it just be frozen ice.

Not that I'm an expert on it, but the very high salinity would be the reason it doesn't freeze solid.

reply to post by pavil


Yeah, I thought about that, but even with high salinity, water freezes, just not into the crystalline state of ice. I guess this lake would have been highly saline before Antarctica froze, so maybe that kept it in a semi liquid state.

If it is just the salinity that keeps the lake in its current state, then there should be other lakes like this under the ice. Then again, there could be some geothermal heat source that keeps the lake active even under the ice.

reply to post by Kandinsky


Well Europa and Encaladus may harbor life, but I'm sure Titan has life as well.

reply to post by Ikema


Global Warming, Man Made, don't make me laugh.

Scientist all over the world tell people that there was a recent ice age. They tell you temps are rising, what if we are still coming out of the ice age.

BTW in the 70's they told us we were entering into another ice age.

They have been shown that they lied in their documentation.

I AM TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING! IT IS A LIE! GET OVER IT! STOP ASKING ME TO SPEND MONEY FOR SOMETHING THAT IS NOT REAL!

The second angel blew his trumpet, and something like a great mountain, burning with fire, was thrown into the sea, and a third of the sea became blood.Revelation 8:8

The second angel poured out his bowl into the sea, and it became like the blood of a corpse, and every living thing died that was in the sea. Revelation 16:3

Think this is the End of Times Bible quotations many are thinking about regarding the red, blood-like stuff comnig out of the Antartic???

Thanks for posting the information. Interesting stuff.
Too bad that people want to take something like this and create some ridiculous threat to their existence.
What a drag it must be to live in constant fear and paranoia.
Also glad I'm not the only one to call out the Global Warming B.S. for what it is.
In a couple of years, no one will cop to having believed in that , anyway.

Originally posted by poet1b

It would seem to me that there would have to be something that causes the liquid to flow. Otherwise, wouldn't it just be frozen ice.

From what I understand scientists believe the gravitational effects of Jupiter cause enough tidal energy to keep the water in a liquid or "slush" like state.

Originally posted by Cygnis
The potentials of this are unimaginable. I deffiently think slow and easy is the best approach on this tho for any group.

On a side note.. Isn't there something about the waters of the world turning red and being undrinkable in the end times?

Peace.

That is the first thing I thought of. And this does coincide with several other things in motion right now that are prior to the water event taking place..

Although I cannot deny that it has done well regarding what it has come to learn, science is cognizant of only 4% of reality -- visible part, that is. They haven't gotten to the invisible part yet. What a super-nova of a blast that's gonna' be when they do!

Most bacteria such as these are known as extremophiles and have highly adaptive metabolisms. These particular organisms "feed" on reduced Fe ions, hence the red color, although sulfur and chloride metabolism is also seen.
many are members of the genus Archaea and are some of the oldest organisms on the planet.
As far as pathogenicity it is highly unlikely the (comparitivly) warm environment and low osmotic pressure of normal sea water would sustain them at the surface. However if some of these organisms can survive into the depths all bets are off and who knows if they can adapt but it seems quite likely. they can live off organic or inorganic carbon and many of the common ions found in sea water. In fact I would be not suprised if distant relatives are there already.
From a anthrocentric approach they have a bright future in processing metals and producing compounds which may in the future help chelate metals from our bodies. Other pharma apps are likely in the strange metabolism of these archeobacteria. One other promising avenue is natural gas production by the reduction of inorganic carbon (CO2, soot, etc) .
I do not have a linky but my background in O-chem says this is not outside of possibility.
Finds like the one in antarctica are incredibly interesting time capsules into the past and I expect as our eyes have begun to see much more of the world more discoveries like this will occur.
I have very few personal worries about organisms found in places like this. It is the man made tearing at the earth which in my opinion will awaken the "wrong" bug. Some rainforest microbe that hitches the first ride out of the jungle on a workers lung scares me far more than any extremophile.
N.