UFOs ships.

UFOs ships.

I have an idea and a question!? Not if anyone has seen a UFO or have filmed to one. There have been plenty of credible witnesses and film. Has anyone heard of orbiter? It is a free space flight simulator that you can download it orbiter.org. You can download everything that mankind has sent into space that we know of since 1959. You can also download and pilot a whole variety of aircraft real and fictional. That were made up by fans. Here is my idea using this program as a share point. Taking information about different UFO craft in a 3-D format. Not just fly them. But to show what they may look like. One of the advantages to using this program is that local geography and topography can be put into it. So for example if someone saw all a UFO in the middle of the Arizona desert. You can load the USGS topographical map of the area into this program can get exact location. And put the model at the altitude at relative distance and see what you got. By the way gay maps of the USGS is free and orbiter is free.

Here is an example only an example! What happened in Roswell New Mexico back and 47. You take the USGS topographical maps in a 3-D format for orbiter. Place a UFO model at the crash site. Using one of the many different types of craft that are available for orbiter. If you can duplicate the original version of the story and debris field? Or the current US Air Force version of what happened.

The reason why I suggest using orbiter are several good reasons. One it is free, two it's easy to use, three easy to upload models maps and other data into it. Four it can have many other applications and uses that I will get into later. Last but not least anyone can use it

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Uh, how about a link to this orbiter program you are talking about..

And topo maps as well.

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It is a free space flight simulator that you can download it orbiter.org

That site is no good. Is this what you're talking about?

orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk...

I have a Mac so this will not run on any of my machines.

Originally posted by slowfade
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It is a free space flight simulator that you can download it orbiter.org

That site is no good. Is this what you're talking about?

orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk...

I have a Mac so this will not run on any of my machines.

Damn! It won't run on Linux either then.

Originally posted by draco61
I have an idea and a question!? Not if anyone has seen a UFO or have filmed to one. There have been plenty of credible witnesses and film.

No there aren't. But that's a little offtopic..

Has anyone heard of orbiter?

Yes.

Here is my idea using this program as a share point. Taking information about different UFO craft in a 3-D format. Not just fly them. But to show what they may look like. One of the advantages to using this program is that local geography and topography can be put into it. So for example if someone saw all a UFO in the middle of the Arizona desert. You can load the USGS topographical map of the area into this program can get exact location. And put the model at the altitude at relative distance and see what you got. By the way gay maps of the USGS is free and orbiter is free.

Gay maps? (O:

Anyway, yes, so far so good...

Here is an example only an example! What happened in Roswell New Mexico back and 47. You take the USGS topographical maps in a 3-D format for orbiter. Place a UFO model at the crash site. Using one of the many different types of craft that are available for orbiter. If you can duplicate the original version of the story and debris field? Or the current US Air Force version of what happened.

Problem. Unless I'm badly mistaken, Orbiter is not designed for accurate crash modeling - the idea is to successfully complete your missions... And do you have crash debris maps to compare to anyway? I'm no Roswell expert, so do inform me on this.

The reason why I suggest using orbiter are several good reasons. One it is free, two it's easy to use

No it isn't. Easy, I mean.

...anyone can use it

No, actually you would want to have a reasonable basic knowledge in spaceflight concepts to use it with any degree of accuracy. It's not impossible, don't get me wrong, but if you think it's like a flight sim where you can just click a few times and fly... No. From the front page of the actual orbiter site ( orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk... ):

"But make no mistake - ORBITER is not a space shooter. The emphasis is firmly on realism, and the learning curve can be steep. Be prepared to invest some time and effort to brush up on your orbital mechanics background. Good starting points are JPL's Basics of Space Flight, and R. Braeunig's Rocket & Space Technology."


Indeed, may I beg the question of why *you* haven't tried at least a basic version of what you are suggesting, before posting this?

Wait, you're just the "ideas person", right!!

Mac "it just works"
Linux "it's free"

HA!
I think ill just download this to my PC now.
But it does not look to good so far. Simulators are very boring and i would rather play all four games that are available on Mac before i play another flight simulator simulator let alone a Space simulator. Think about it:
"I think i want to simulate the challenger. Aw crap it blew up just like it did in real life i guess i did it right. How about apallo 1, yup killed everyone i win"

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here you go orbithangar.com/

Originally posted by slowfade
reply to post by draco61

 

It is a free space flight simulator that you can download it orbiter.org

That site is no good. Is this what you're talking about?

orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk...

I have a Mac so this will not run on any of my machines.

no this one orbithangar.com/

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no this one Orbiter.com but you are close

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Originally posted by draco61
I have an idea and a question!? Not if anyone has seen a UFO or have filmed to one. There have been plenty of credible witnesses and film.



No there aren't. But that's a little offtopic..

So you mean there have been no credible witnesses film or video of any kind whatsoever. Beside the point!!? this site is dedicated to one of two things proven the existence of UFOs and aliens and that the US government has been covering it up. That is the point
Has anyone heard of orbiter?



Yes.



Here is my idea using this program as a share point. Taking information about different UFO craft in a 3-D format. Not just fly them. But to show what they may look like. One of the advantages to using this program is that local geography and topography can be put into it. So for example if someone saw all a UFO in the middle of the Arizona desert. You can load the USGS topographical map of the area into this program can get exact location. And put the model at the altitude at relative distance and see what you got. By the way gay maps of the USGS is free and orbiter is free.



Gay maps? (O:

Anyway, yes, so far so good...



Here is an example only an example! What happened in Roswell New Mexico back and 47. You take the USGS topographical maps in a 3-D format for orbiter. Place a UFO model at the crash site. Using one of the many different types of craft that are available for orbiter. If you can duplicate the original version of the story and debris field? Or the current US Air Force version of what happened.



Problem. Unless I'm badly mistaken, Orbiter is not designed for accurate crash modeling - the idea is to successfully complete your missions... And do you have crash debris maps to compare to anyway? I'm no Roswell expert, so do inform me on this.

Why yes you are quite right orbiter design have that capability. If you will really read what I said, but I will type slowly so you can understand! If someone were to reconstruct the Roswell crash site by the original description. And that so-called test balloon crash site. Which would have consisted of 13 3-foot to 4 foot metal cylinder and maybe 12 balloons, and four by radar targets about 3 1/2 feet square ! And then make it a orbiter mod then people can examine the crash site.

The reason why I suggest using orbiter are several good reasons. One it is free, two it's easy to use




No it isn't. Easy, I mean.



anyone can use it



No, actually you would want to have a reasonable basic knowledge in spaceflight concepts to use it with any degree of accuracy. It's not impossible, don't get me wrong, but if you think it's like a flight sim where you can just click a few times and fly... No. From the front page of the actual orbiter site ( orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk... ):

Correction again I will try very slow this time ! Assuming someone has the necessary time for 1 Mission in orbiter like docking at the international space Station ! I have done this I do not however have knowledge of calculus or space navigation, that particular mission took four hours to complete ! And if someone wanted to know and back at eight days . Oh I forgot to mention it's in real time . Oh yes one last point each mission comes a flight manual that is detailed enough to tell a person what to do.

Indeed, may I beg the question of why *you* haven't tried at least a basic version of what you are suggesting, before posting this?

To answer your question. No know I have not tried this myself. And the reason why I do not have the basic programming knowledge to program it

Wait, you're just the "ideas person", right!!

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Wait, you're just the "ideas person", right!!

Wait, you're just the "ideas person", right!!

I am asking different questions. First question is this somewhat of a good idea. You answered yes. Would people be interested in doing this. You answered yes. And the most important question what do ET and their craft look like. You answered I don't know. Good questions and answers, but then again I may be wrong about. Here is a good question for you these people have something in common, what is it, JFK Winston Churchill Leonardo da Vinci Jules Vurns Albert Einstein having common? If you can figure that out that's why I've not attempted this by myself.

Hello Im new to posting on this site. I couldnt find any other place to post this, but I was browsing and I read this post in the introduction forum www.abovetopsecret.com... but the moderator had to remove it because it wasnt an introduction. It has a video of a ufo ship that looks interesting. maybe someone can make a thread about it.

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Remember this is a rather old flight simulator and very very basic. But it does have a fun group of mods on the hanger page at give you that link later.

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Good morning Mandy.
I am wrong person to ask that question. Check with the staff here. And remember one thing there is a loud junk on UFOs some very good and a lot of bad stuff. Be careful. Thank you Draco 61

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Good morning Mandy.
I am wrong person to ask that question. Check with the staff here. And remember one thing there is a loud junk on UFOs some very good and a lot of bad stuff. Be careful. Thank you Draco 61

Mandy and I owe you some what the apology. I just watched the video you that you are referring to not sure a look at it again later. But you still have to be careful especially on this site

Originally posted by CHRLZ

Originally posted by draco61
I have an idea and a question!? Not if anyone has seen a UFO or have filmed to one. There have been plenty of credible witnesses and film.

No there aren't. But that's a little offtopic..

Has anyone heard of orbiter?

Yes.

Here is my idea using this program as a share point. Taking information about different UFO craft in a 3-D format. Not just fly them. But to show what they may look like. One of the advantages to using this program is that local geography and topography can be put into it. So for example if someone saw all a UFO in the middle of the Arizona desert. You can load the USGS topographical map of the area into this program can get exact location. And put the model at the altitude at relative distance and see what you got. By the way gay maps of the USGS is free and orbiter is free.

Gay maps? (O:

Anyway, yes, so far so good...

Here is an example only an example! What happened in Roswell New Mexico back and 47. You take the USGS topographical maps in a 3-D format for orbiter. Place a UFO model at the crash site. Using one of the many different types of craft that are available for orbiter. If you can duplicate the original version of the story and debris field? Or the current US Air Force version of what happened.

Problem. Unless I'm badly mistaken, Orbiter is not designed for accurate crash modeling - the idea is to successfully complete your missions... And do you have crash debris maps to compare to anyway? I'm no Roswell expert, so do inform me on this.

The reason why I suggest using orbiter are several good reasons. One it is free, two it's easy to use

No it isn't. Easy, I mean.

...anyone can use it

No, actually you would want to have a reasonable basic knowledge in spaceflight concepts to use it with any degree of accuracy. It's not impossible, don't get me wrong, but if you think it's like a flight sim where you can just click a few times and fly... No. From the front page of the actual orbiter site ( orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk... ):

"But make no mistake - ORBITER is not a space shooter. The emphasis is firmly on realism, and the learning curve can be steep. Be prepared to invest some time and effort to brush up on your orbital mechanics background. Good starting points are JPL's Basics of Space Flight, and R. Braeunig's Rocket & Space Technology."


Indeed, may I beg the question of why *you* haven't tried at least a basic version of what you are suggesting, before posting this?

Wait, you're just the "ideas person", right!!

no.
Here's how my idea would work program is somewhat easily modify that I'm referring to. For purposes of this discussion let's call this mod UFO one. Three people see what may be the same UFO from the description. But they live miles apart and in slightly different parts of the county. All three describe the same basic craft in shape and size but get three different directions. But since they live within 10 to 15 miles of one another. You then go to their point of view and place a 3-D model that they described and show its direction of travel. I know that this is the number four with other programs but they are expensive this one is free and has links to other free software for modeling and other applications. Please let me know what you think. Thank you very much Draco 61

Can you give any examples of incidents where three or more people have reported the same object, the reports appear to correlate, and the reports all contain useful and accurate observations?

Ok, how about two reports?

One?


It's a nice idea, but I'm afraid I don't see much indication that you would ever get a decent enough set of data to do this. If such cases exist, I would wager that simple triangulation from whatever obs you can get, would probably be plenty, given the likely accuracy range.

Sadly, I don't think it will fly (pun intended).

Originally posted by CHRLZ
Can you give any examples of incidents where three or more people have reported the same object, the reports appear to correlate, and the reports all contain useful and accurate observations?

Ok, how about two reports?

One?

It's a nice idea, but I'm afraid I don't see much indication that you would ever get a decent enough set of data to do this. If such cases exist, I would wager that simple triangulation from whatever obs you can get, would probably be plenty, given the likely accuracy range.

Sadly, I don't think it will fly (pun intended).

Not to sound short with you but do you have cable? And have you heard of the show UFOS hunters. They have had several incidents. Where four to five people in different parts of the county and sometimes different counties may have seen the same UFO. Were they did investigations to confirm that in many different locations people saw the same thing. Using expensive appointment and techniques . I do not know about you let me in on SSI disability my funds are extremely limited. I cannot pull tens of thousands of dollars out of thin air. The technique that I'm suggesting is almost always free. Let me explain simply.

Orbiter is a program that is free. The site where you can download it as additional information on free modeling programs. That do not require advanced training to use them. So that anyone with more than a little basic computer skills can use them. And you miss the most important part about my proposal. First I am talking about a single point of share of information similar to this site. Second that over the years may just be j.a.f.o. I have seen many descriptions of the same craft. On different dates and times and I'm not speaking of just the grays and other different alien species. Third investigating UFOs or aliens are done by individuals or small groups that can be somewhat isolated and alone. Or a loose or weak chain of connection. That chain needs to be tightened. And many of the gaps in information will be filled in.
Thank you Draco 61

I'll be even shorter.

You think the UFO Hunters is a good starting point?


End of discussion. But good luck anyway.

Let us know how it turns out for ya...