What has happened to our society? Is EVIL growing?

Society has always had its evilness back 'till the first days of life on earth. It is sad because instead of thinking "oh #, society is getting bad" you realise instead "it's always been bad and so it is unlikely to get better". I'm not sure what is a more depressing theory.

Originally posted by concernedcitizan
......A stroll in the park could be just as effective for treating hyperactive children as drugs such as Ritalin, a study has revealed.

Troubled youngsters showed significant improvements in concentration levels after what researchers called 'a dose of nature'.

A 20-minute walk in green surroundings gave improvements on a par with a daily dose of drugs for Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, or ADHD.


So instead of drugs, all we need is more time spent in open, green places, which would be an integral part of a tradititional society that values health, closeness to nature, and peace of mind higher than consumption, job and money. Much of the disease in the West and growing modern places like China is the decay of the spirit in people. We suffer from low self-confidence, selfishness and fear of failure. As a result we try to push down others to feel good, and hate anyone who succeeds in life or suggests we change the course of society. We enforce status quo to defend ourselves against what we could have had if we dared to change our life and work for a common goal. Can we change direction? Yes, we can--people with determination can do anything.

By returning to traditional values, we escape prostituting ourselves to money, career and television. We give up the globalist lifestyle and determine our own destiny. We refuse to give up our freedom. You can sense it lingering in the air: the slow but growing resistance against our modern way of life and its tedious, stupid and corrupt side-effects. The walls are cracking and people are fleeing their caves of enslavement. We are returning to our traditions, acknowledging what people have known for thousands of years: without roots, no trees can grow.

Do I sound hopeful? It's because I am.

Great points, I, too, am hopeful!!!!

Maybe a lil VIT D (from the sun) helps more than just the physical.

I say it this way..."a tired boy is a GOOD boy!" GET OUT!!!!! Right?

OT

Originally posted by silent thunder
Hontar: "We must work in the world, your eminence. The world is thus."
Altamirano: "No, Señor Hontar. Thus have we made the world."

The OP should recognize the source

I tear up everytime I see it? Did you like it too?

Sweet "pull" for OT

Originally posted by Nventual
Society has always had its evilness back 'till the first days of life on earth. It is sad because instead of thinking "oh #, society is getting bad" you realise instead "it's always been bad and so it is unlikely to get better". I'm not sure what is a more depressing theory.

Yes it has been bad...but is it getting worse? The stats say yes, regrettably...

OT

Good question. I don't think the media is reflecting society. I think certain aspects of media is leading society where ever they want.

I think the moral values of the youth in the country are learned from said entity.

These are just the times. Just as every circumstance you have faced is a direct result from a decision you have made, the consequences of a society's actions is a reflection of their leadership.

Who is leading us? That would be a good question.

S&F great thread.

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Originally posted by Conclusion
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Who is leading us? That would be a good question.

S&F great thread.

[edit on 9-3-2010 by Conclusion]

Thx for the S&F!

I'm not sure about who/what is leading us? Its just times are a changin...discipline in schools back in the day were things like "chewing gun" in class...now it is much more edgy/violent

Those that haven't lived long enough to "SEE" really are working with bad data...

GEMBA is needed for perspective....

OT

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Yeah. I remember my mom telling me how my dad packed a gun to school in the 4th grade. That would have been around 1934. Times have changed quiet a bit.

Kruschev said that the natural progression of a democratic state was towards socialism.

I believe that what we saw during the Victorian Era was the beginning of that stage. We had women' suffrage, the end of monarchy, the end of slavery, the eight hour day, etc. All kinds of products from socialist ideology. What soon followed?

Well, World War 2 kicked off. The entire world was supposedly under threat. America's evolution was put on hold. Following the WW we had the 50's. What we experienced then was a reawakening of Fordism and other socialist leanings that promoted massive growth in the middle class. McCarthyism soon moved in to paralyze this nation.

To this day I believe we are still in this state. Paralyzed with fear and living under a capitalist regime that should have died a long time ago.

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Welcome to ATS!

With this move to socialism...in your mind, what is 'Good'? and what is 'Bad'???

OT

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Interesting. What is McCarthyism? I will need to do some research on that. It would seem that any government would evolve toward socialism solely through leadership put in through any means.

Sorry about the edits.... got my threads confused.

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Ok!

en.wikipedia.org...

There is a link for you!

As far as socialism goes, I am referring specifically towards a more collectivist approach to economic policies.

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Yes welcome. I think I posted in your entrance post.

Nice to see you are of the intelligent type. That is very good to have in here. I have learned so much since I have started about the capacity of the mind, and the intricate workings of socializing. In our discussions I wish to warn you. I have been known to be sarcastic, but I will assure you it will not be out of any anger, I just love to laugh.

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Have no fear, my sarcasm detector is fully charged!

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collectivist approach

wow. That would be a huge undertaking. Good luck. I will assist with anything I can. If that means looking at the broader scheme of governments.

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What is good and bad in what context?

Originally posted by AdAbsurdum
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Have no fear, my sarcasm detector is fully charged!

Good. I think I found some over here. I think we hit the motherload.

Originally posted by AdAbsurdum
reply to post by OldThinker

 

What is good and bad in what context?

Good question...but I knew you would go there..

That's why I gave you the frame/boundaries/scope...

All wrapped up in the phrase...."in your mind"

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Touche!

Well, I think good is what is most in line with the natural order of things. I think bad is what is created to usurp that order.

Originally posted by AdAbsurdum
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Touche!

Well, I think good is what is most in line with the natural order of things. I think bad is what is created to usurp that order.

OK, no prob...

I'm open here...

How does the natural order of things (which needs defined) relate to socialism?

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And so it begins!

I would argue that for the majority of humanities existence we have existed in tribal groups. Those groups are an expression of pure communism. Since we evolved along those lines we are better suited for that existence. Our family units even exist along these lines.

However, with capitalism what we see is the devaluing of humanity. That is unnatural and leads to the problems we currently see in our society.